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‘Palestinian whining to continue’
By Roee Nahmias
Published: 16.06.05, 09:24
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1. Look who is talking?
Salameh ,   Gaza   (06.16.05)
We've been asking you to give up the 1967 proper and a just solution for the refugees all according to INTERNATIONAL laws for decades now, it is YOU who whine and moan because you are, and all of your political leaders are non-committing, and not interested in making a decision. Get grib, end the occupation
2. Please tell this IDF officer what is obvious
Avi Dalfen ,   Toronto, Canada   (06.16.05)
Infiltrations from Gaza have been almost unheard of for years, thanks to fences which are already in place and didn’t require any disengagement. Instead of “significantly minimizing (terrorists’) ability to hit Israel’s civilian population” his government’s plan significantly increases it, as it will be easier for the terrorists to fire missiles, dig tunnels, and plan attacks, while it will be more costly when IDF members, possibly including the one you won’t attribute quotes to, have to go back into Gaza try to stop the missiles, tunnels and planned attacks.
3. Standard racist talk from the whining boasting Israel Army
accessol ,   Spelthorne, England   (06.16.05)
According to the Israel army it is the Palestinians who are always whining and boasting and blaming those wonderful, pure, noble, honest and innocent Israelis for all their woes. Israel would never think of whining to big daddy in the US for more handouts and more loans and more grants and more deadly weapons and it would never dream whining to the Europeans about all those anti-semites out there daring to criticise the Jewish state and its squeaky-clean universities and its army's brave marksmen and its pioneering hilltop youth.
4. Who wouldn? if forced to live under Israeli occupation
TJ ,   N. Carolina   (06.16.05)
Duh, no one expects Palestinians or any other people to enjoy being killed, abducted, imprisoned, and humiliated daily by Israeli occupation troops and Israeli settlers' militias.
5. To TJ
Anonymous, USA   (06.16.05)
I notice you overlook the fact that Israelis had to live with being incinerated by human bombs on a regular basis. When's the last time some maniac detonated himself on a bus or in a restaurant in North Carolina?
6. The Israelis/ JEWS- HAVE NO DEFENSE
(06.16.05)
Lol. Its ridiculous when they even TRY to defend their "occupied territory --funded by welfared weapons from the USA" against a guerilla army with stones. Wwhat a joke- it would be comical if it wasnt so tragic- the PALESTINIANS are under constant pain and humilation due to the brutal disrespect from Jewish land thieves and oppressors-- pain often turns to RAGE.. so my advice to the JEWS stop creating PAIN for the Palestinians, then maybe they wont become so angry..
7. Common sense
Johnny Walker Black ,   Toronto, Canada   (06.16.05)
1. Salameh, I would not expect Israelis to accept three-something millions of arabs hating Israel as a 'just solution'. That is unrealistic and just derails all hopes for peace. And I would not want to see them in Canada either, so naturally I vote against Liberals. 2. Avi, I am curious what type of responses will be for firing rockets from Gazah from Mr. Sharon. 3. Accessol, boasting is not racism. Arabs and Jews definetely are not friends and do not have to live together. Divorce is an acceptable solution. I won't comment on disengagement because I don't know. 4. T.J. - I agree with you. Keep in mind though, that Hamas is introducing new tough Islamic rules that may be not up to everybody. Some average folks like me may not survive: no alcohol, no free dating, etc. Cheers to everybody.
8. Israel will not give the Palestinians what they want
Sal Azam ,   Chicago, USA   (06.16.05)
They want the return of refugees, Israel says No, they want Israel to pull back to Pre June 6th 1967 borders, Israel says no, they want Israel to build the separation wall on its side of the green line. Israel says no. The Palestinians say no illegal settlements, Israel continues to build settlements in Maale Adumim, Elkana and other places. Israel will again reoccupy the cities that it has given to the Palestinians in August. In July their is a chance of Israel introducing a fake messiah through the settlers. Everyone knows it.
9. to #1,2,3,4
Ian ,   Sydney Australia   (06.16.05)
Gaza is not occupied land. It used to belong to Egypt. It is conquered land. We are giving it to the palestinians because we have no vested interest to be there any longer. The westbank is another matter entirely. Final border status as far as the westbank is concerned is up for negotiation. Thats code for COMPROMISE. It does NOT mean that the palestinians get everything that they want by some or other default. It does however involve a bit of give and take. We are prepared to compromise but the palestinians must be prepared to do the same. We are giving up some of our demands - they need to do the same. Thats called compromise kids. Thats called negotiation.
10. RABID JEW HATE OF ETHNIC JEW CLEANSING DESTROYS SECURITY
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (06.16.05)
The rabid Jew-hating plan is to forcibly remove Jews BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWS and because Judaism is considered unnaceptable, in order to give the seized Jewish land and assets as spoils of war to the followers of the politically correct religion of Islam. The thing that is very strange is that this behavior is normally done by Islamofascists; not by Jews. We now have Israeli leaders doing this for Islam. The senior IDF officer informs the "Palestinians" are not happy with the disengagement plan, but they are forced to accept it" Why are the Islamofascists forced to accept Jewsish land and Jewish assets??? Why do the Jew-haters plan to jail Jews for years if the Jews resist giving their land and assets to the terrorists who attack and murder them? The senior IDF officer declares that (by giving away Jewish land) it "will deliver a severe blow to terrorism by significantly minimizing terrorists' ability to hit Israel's civilian population. The surrender/retreat from the Gaza Strip and Northern Samaria places the power plants in Hadera and Ashkelon into the range of kassam and katyusha rockets. Israel's surrender/retreat from Lebanon has enabled Hizbullah to have 12,000 rockets at Israel's border to attack all Northern Israel, with longer range missiles to hit Southern Israel. This massive rocket build up will be repeated in Gaza. ARE ISRAELI LEADERS SECRET CONVERTS TO ISLAM???
11. To Ian - #9
Paul ,   Kiryat Arba, Israel   (06.16.05)
Hey Ian - what's this we business? Although I agree with what you're saying, I am trying to understand from what point of view are you saying it.
12. to 3, 4
Mark ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.16.05)
It's amazing reading some of those comments. It makes me feel that I should really just stop murdering, abducting and abusing those poor Palestinians – but naah, I think I'll keep doing it. After all, we all do that here – luckily you don’t suggest we stop blowing up restaurants or buses in Gaza, otherwise I'd have to feel guilty every time I do that as well.
13. To Paul in a Colony called "Kiryat Araba"
Ahmad Abouali ,   Nablus, Falasteen   (06.16.05)
Gaza, my dear Zionist, is a palestinian territories in accordance to the UN , and the league of nation's declariton when they gave Palestine be run by the Brits. therefore, it was run by the Egyptians before it was FORCEFULLY OCCUPIED BY THE Zionists. you are leaving it becuase: 1- you got no one willing to move into the colonies on Gaza. 2-the resisstance is a nightmare to your so-called IDF and colonists, lke you. 3-The crimes you committed there and the int'l intervention made you decided to leave! As for the West Bank, it is too and occupied territories in accordance to the UN Security council resolutions 238, 242 and other, subesquent, UN resolutions stating that, therefore, there you need to negotiate with the UN security council, not with us, that of course includeds Jeruslem.
14. No, YOU get a grip.
Aaron Nafthali ,   Denver, Galut   (06.16.05)
Umm. . .apparently your education isn't all it could be, but let me just point out two facts: 1 - It was the ARABS who caused the war in 1967 (as well as 1948, 1973, numerous others, countless conflicts outside of Israel, and the ongoing "resistance struggle") 2 - As usual since the establishment of modern Israel THE ARABS LOST. When you lose a war, you do not get to go back to the status quo ante. Couint your blessings that the world holds Israel to a special standard, because in any other nation, you and your pathetic ilk would long since have been destroyed for your wretched lies and cruel attacks against civilians. No wonder your "fighters" cover their faces. I'd be ashamed to be a liar, a loser, and a murderer, too. Am Yisrael Chai!
15. LMAO
Aaron Nafthali ,   Denver, Galut   (06.16.05)
Hey, TJ, nice representing for NC, and the US as well. You blather this tripe from your safe little burg in the south, and I hope you stay there forever. Prattle on, moron, and others will count your blessings and protect your freedoms for you - freedoms and safety that you would deny to Israel.
16. Speak for yourself
Aaron Nafthali ,   Denver, Galut   (06.16.05)
Ian, with all due respect, suggesting "compromise" with people who have never moved from their original position that Jews must die and Israel must be destroyed is simply absurd. The meaning of "compromise" and "negotiation" are lost when the people across the table are liars and murderers.
17. Shalom Ahmed, my dear Arab
Aaron Nafthali ,   Denver, Galut   (06.16.05)
Go to school. Learn what "revisionism" and "fabrication" mean. Then stop engaging in them. It is bad enough that your people have earned themselves their appalling reputation and miserable lot, without people like you demostrating again and again that the PLOArabs really ARE consummate liars and irredentist fools. Eretz Yisrael L'Am Yisrael!
18. To #11 Paul and #16 Aaron
Ian ,   Sydney Australia   (06.17.05)
Paul, I'm saying it as a proud Jew. I dont care whether it fits in with the right wing, left wing or lapid wing. Aaron, we have to keep on fighting for sure - we cant sit on our hands and do nothing while terrorists are bent on destroying us. On the other hand we still have to keep the negotiation option open. Dont succumb to their desease: raw hatred and revenge wont get you anywhere.
19. Rabid Linda destroys y-net security....
Israeli ,   Israel   (06.17.05)
vote now.... do we want linda to continue or rabid ramblings or do we want y-net to begin deleting her messages. and what of this accessol from england... will he/she turn into another Linda? preaching at us as if they really and truly know what we need?! vote now!
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