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'Blair's a hypocrite'
By Diana Bahur-Nir
Published: 10.07.05, 08:46
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31. Think About THIS, Cousin Ziad
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (07.10.05)
You Arabs have 99.9% of the Middle East WITH all of the oil. We have 1/10th of 1% WITHOUT oil. Don't be greedy and covet that which isn't yours, or you'll have another naqba.
32. You must read this Winston Churchill quote
rachel ,   jerusalem, israel   (07.10.05)
I believe Winston Churchill said it best in his great work "The River War". "How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property—either as a child, a wife, or a concubine—must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science—the science against which it had vainly struggled—the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
33. In reply to Mr. Yishai Post 31
Abdullah ,   Kuwait City, Kuwait   (07.10.05)
You cannot compare apples to oranges! We have already explained to you how some of the occupied territories such as Jerusalem is not only holy to Jews, so no matter if Jerusalem is less than 1% of the middle east, it still has a greater value than it real size is! Shalom.
34. Blaming Israel
Amanda ,   Jerusalem   (07.10.05)
Blaming Israel It was inappropriate for Prime Minister Blair to deflect Great Britain’s terror attack away from the true cause of the attack and to point the finger at Israel. The Israel-Palestinian problem has widely been used by terrorists as an excuse against crimes against humanity, and now Blair has effectively agreed, giving the terrorists much need credibility. Israel and the Palestinian people have a sufficient amount of problems and they do not need to have this problem exacerbate with condemnations and finger pointing. Great Britain has caused Israel/Palestinian relations enough damage in the past, Cheri Blair stated sympathetically with the suicide bombers “As long as young people feel they have got no hope but to blow them selves up you are never going to make progress.” was enough for the terrorists to say see even the liberal West agrees with them, hence making the situation even more volatile. Now to have the head of the Government come out a publicly state, that the recent terrorist attacks in London where brought on by the Israel-Palestinian crisis is simply incorrect. Did Mr. Blair even think before he made this comment, his Country is allied with the most hated country of all the Arab Nations, The U.S.A. But intelligent individuals will not blame the USA they will get to the root of the problem and that being religious extremists. Had Mr. Blair however come out and made this statement I believe that Londoners would have seen another attack very quickly, all Blair has done is appease the terrorists and once again money from sympathetic Brits will flow into the hands of Muslim extremists who politely tell the donors that they need this money to fight Israel. Even if it means blowing up their buses and tubes right in the middle of London, because this is why Mr. Blair stated the bombing happened after all. It’s the Israeli-Palestinian Crisis. We look too Countries like Great Britain and the USA to set an example that terrorisms is UNACCEPTABLE however you try and disguise it, whether it be the incursion in Iraq, Afghanistan or Israel Palestinian conflict. Too appease the Militants it will only allow the situation to worsen.
35. In reply to Abdullah Post 33
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (07.10.05)
Jerusalem belongs to the nation of Israel- exclusively. However, unlike YOU and YOUR land, we allow free access: http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/country/Saudi%20Arabia/Mecca%20sign.jpg Stop being greedy, aggressive AND racists who want to steal what isn't yours.
36. Amanda
(07.10.05)
shut up.
37. Blair's comments
Laura   (07.10.05)
Whatever respect I had for Tony Blair, it is now gone. He fears the British public will blame him for the terrorist attacks because of his participation in the Iraq war, so what better way for him to shift the focus off of himself and scapegoat Israel. The fact is the Iraq war is turning out to be a disaster which has not reduced the threat of terrorism, and so rather then accept responsibility, both Blair and Bush look for scapegoats. Not to mention that Blair is very afraid of evoking the wrath of his country's own muslim population, therefore he will not speak the truth about islam. In other words, what he is saying to the muslims in his country, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the Jews. This is how it has always been throughout history, when terrible events take place, the Jews are scapegoated, and world leaders are all too happy to shift the blame from themselves. Blair took the cowards way out instead of confronting the truth.
38. The Victim
JG Smith ,   Hamden USA   (07.10.05)
I am tired of hearing the whining about being a victim. The Palestinians should never have been forced to give up there land.A wrong has been done and should be corrected. The world needs to fix this problem. The Palistinians are the victims.Not the Zionists. And no, I am not anti-semetic and the Zionists are not Semites anyway.
39. understatement
pat ,   usa   (07.10.05)
well 1st of all , go online and look for the free video called "911 in plane sight" then you should begin to understand that its not terrorists behind what you see, govts who are drunk with power , backed by the world elite bankers who actually own everything due to our debt, these are making you think its terrorists in order to get you to give up your liberties for there so called safty. i ask you now!!,, what difference does it make if we are free or slaves as they want us, a free society always loses cause the ppl cant fight bach without mommy's ok. dont give up you g uns, and freedoms without a fight!! now. go find the video, look at the proof!!!
40. No Question Israel is responsible
Rowan McCree ,   Aberdeen   (07.10.05)
The anti-Semitic card is played 24/7 these days. You can't criticise Israel no matter how many Palestinian boys they try to lynch or how many 9 year old girls they snipe off rooftops. Israel could end all the troubles were they not so devious and hegemonic. It's becoming increasingly clear that Mossad was involved in the 9/11 attacks, that Israel pushed for and provoked the Iraq war and are also pushing for an invasion of Syria and Iran. Meanwhile through AIPAC they are caught spying in the US, in New Zealand and all cross the world. Sooner or later they are going to find they have run out of friends. Israel needs to clean up its act.
41. rowanMccree.
kristian   (07.10.05)
Having ever heard of the expression USEFUL IDIOT ? By your comments it seems to me you have learnt your Palestinian propaganda well. Arafat would have been so proud of you. I guess you look upon that Scotish bastard Galloway as your role model as well. Oh well, you really are a Useful Idiot.
42. I think Rowan's smoked a little too much nargila/hooka!
Jared ,   Toronto, Canada   (07.10.05)
Rachel in talkback number 32 says it all!!!!
43. Jews should take a stand against Europe and US
Cadavre ,   Assasination USA   (07.10.05)
Jews, take a stand against those who would do you harm. Pull your Israeli embassies from their cities before thay ask you to because of the risk they imply. Show them who's boss - quit accepting their foriegn aid and tell Jewish politicians to quit running for office in the US and UK. You'll have them shaking in their boots - come on - do it!
44. As ye sow so shall ye reap
Roger ,   Australia   (07.10.05)
Sorry to have to say it but two Israeli Prime Ministers are by any definition terrorists after bombing the King David Hotel in 1949. They were dressed as Arabs. The Lavon affair??!! The USS Liberty! All in all Israeli blak flag ops does not even equte to any anti-semitism but cold blooded murder.
45. Ben Franklin on Jews Rachel Post #32
Cadavre ,   US of A   (07.10.05)
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. "In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal. "For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race. "If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty. "If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
46. Posts 40 and 41
E. Mullins ,   Dallas, USA   (07.10.05)
Let's see, Rowan McCree gives us some information (without citing sources however) and some opinions, whereas Kristian (with Jared of Toronto giving a "ditto") just uses verbal abuse (name-calling).... Although I'm neutral on this issue, so far, I will tend to lean more toward Mr. McCree.... Perhaps we could see some sources. And let's ignore those who label people "useful idiots." That sort of discussion tactic just shows a lack of factual information or it's simply clear ignorance.
47. Fence excludes 55,000 Palestinians
steve ,   pahoa, hi - us   (07.10.05)
Copying the ghettos is Europe, ha?
48. About POOR BEN -for 45
alan ,   South Africa   (07.10.05)
Jews shouldnt feel to bad about "Poor Ben.".. No wonder he never became President of the early USA..... With opinions like that he couldnt expect the Jewish Vote so he was packed off as Ambassador to France where they didnt like Jews too much either, rather like today... Probably the Hollywood Jews didnt support him... Actually Pieter Stuyvesant was worse. I think Pegleg Stuyvesant died of lung cancer from smoking those cigarettes he invented . He actualy wanted the Jews kicked out of Nieew Amsterdam( New York ) and driven into the sea,like some people in the Middle East today. He was recalled by the Council of 17 and stood as the first Hamas parliamentary candidate in the Hague.Niether of the two were the first Jewhaters or the last ,so dont let it worry you
49. For all that think/know-Jews behand mess in world- 2examples
archers ,   toronto   (07.11.05)
Woodword wilson 1915-blackmailed-sexual affair with buddies wife.deal give Russia $325million not to end war with Germany.Lied to USA electrate-2nd term 3 months in---declared war--start of WWI and cause into WWII and now continueing--IRAQ invasion. USS Liberty--Israelie war planes, gun boats---made to appear as Eyptian--bombed the sh1t out out of the ship and killed many.Approached Johnson--Pres-USA--Nuke Eygpht for Us. I could go on and on---numerous ocasions that the Jews have used sinister plots to get otherts to do their dirty work--Example--Iraq Invasion. Folks--millions have died for the homeland for the Jews--as if USA and England were not enough!
50. E.MULLINS.
Kristian   (07.11.05)
Let's see you actually agree with MCcree that Mossad was responsible for 9/11 and all the facts Mccree throws at you...... Those are exactly the same "facts" the likes of Arafatr, GeorgeGallloway ,Ken Livingstone and many other American and Jews haters like to propagate. It seems indeed that you too can join the list of Useful Idiots..... By the way the person who first used the expression Useful idiot, was Stalin, I can only assume you like his work. He was clever at using the simple minded.
51. #45 Cadavre INSULTS THE JEWISH BROTHERS & SISTERS OF JESUS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.11.05)
Jesus Christ practiced Judaism and was an observant Jew. Jesus said in John 4:22 "salvation is from the Jews" 1 Corinthians 10:31 "whatever you do, do all to the glory of G-D. GIVE NO OFFENSE TO JEWS..." The Jews gave us: The knowledge of the One true G-D - Creator of the universe. The Bible. The 10 commandments given to Moses by G-D upon which our civilization is built. Out of all proportion to their tiny numbers upon this earth, Jews have blessed the entire human race through their amazing inventions, discoveries and breakthroughs in medicine, science, agriculture and many other fields. This is a fulfillment of G-D's word in the Bible that through the Jewish people all the nations of the earth would be blessed. I am a non-Jew who is forever grateful and forever in debt to the Jewish people.
52. Re: forged Ben Franklin Quote
Shai ,   Israel   (07.11.05)
From http://www.kids.net.au/encyclopedia-wiki/be/Benjamin_Franklin "In recent years Franklin's image has been tarnished by anti-Semites who attempt to use his name to further their goals. Many anti-Semitic Arab and Neo-Nazi books, journals and websites offer forged "quotes" supposedly by America's founding fathers, especially George Washington and Benjamin Franklin. These supposed quotes have been debunked as forgeries by historians. Example of an Anti-Semitic website pushing fraudulent quotes from America's founding fathers (http://abbc.com/islam/english/toread/frnklin.htm) Egyptian government sponsored press spreads Anti-Semitic forgeries about Washington and Franklin (http://christianactionforisrael.org/antiholo/personality) Documenting the forgery of Ben Franklin's beliefs about Jews (http://www.adl.org/special_reports/franklin_prophecy/franklin_documenting_fraud.asp) Acceptance of the Anti-Semitic Franklin hoax in the Arab world today (http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/arab/anti_sem_myth.asp) "
53. To #15 accessol, Spelthorne, England
Pieter ,   the Netherlands   (07.11.05)
He, Einstein I can’t judge about Britain, but concerning the Netherlands, I don’t think it will solve our problems with our muslim community, even if we would annihilate Israel completely. The muslim frustration here isn’t generated by the existence of the state of Israel. To my opinion the problem lies in, that there religion teaches them, that they as muslims are superior to any other religion or culture, and that clashes with the reality they are experiencing. 50 or 100 years ago most muslims didn’t know any better than that they still ruled the world. Modern communications made them aware that what was preached in their mosque wasn’t exactly stroking with what was really going on in the world. Their frustration and hate against western Europe comes from way beyond the creation of the state of Israel. Did you ever ask yourself why Hindus or Buddhists aren’t attacking us.
54. Which planet are you from?
Fatima ,   Washington, DC   (07.11.05)
I couldn't help but respond..."Colluding with Egypt, the Palestinian Authority have smuggled in anti-tank missiles and anti-aircraft shoulder-fired missiles that can bring down commercial jets."....SO WHY HAVEN'T THEY DONE THAT ALREADY? I guess they're saving all those missiles for later...AFTER ISRAEL wipes out the entire Palestinian population. You have proven yourself to be a true moron. Oh and by the way, I have never heard of " killing Jews wherever you find them" ---In fact I am a muslim married to a Jew...please get your facts straight before making these stupid accusations and causing more hatred.
55. #54 Fatima - The PA aren't going to do anything...
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.11.05)
The PA are not going to do anything at this present time that would prevent them from getting Jewish land. The PA are NOT stupid. The quote about killing the Jews broadcast from the Gaza mosque on PA TV is very well known. They also have it on video. A lot of other sermons are also on video.
56. Blair
William Taylor ,   Mannford, Ok.   (07.11.05)
Blair may be British but he sure ain't Yiddish. In what photo album did he ever see a wired suicide Israeli, None !! No Jew is that dumb and no Jew is a terrorist. That $3,000,000,000.00 should have gone to Jewish relief; they would have fed the Arabs some chicken noodle soup.
57. NUMBER 36 ..... lol
Amanda ,   Jerusalem   (07.11.05)
why would I shut up?? Because I speak the truth......
58. In reply to post 35
Abdullah ,   Kuwait City, Kuwait   (07.11.05)
Hello Yishai, I guess you love to go around in circles over and over! Who said that Jerusalem belongs to Jews alone, and why should we follow the Jewish teaching alone since we are non Jews! Secondly who said that the Saudis are not racists, I know they are and I do feeling their racism against me too as a Kuwaiti
59. To Abdullah
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (07.11.05)
After you Muslims share Mecca with everyone else- after all, don't you believe that Abraham planted the Kabaa, then get back to me. In the meantime, be happy with YOUR 99.9% of the Middle East and don't be so greedy as to demand OUR 1/10th of 1% too.
60. 53: Pieter: Why the Indians aren't attacking?
accessol ,   Spelthorne, England   (07.11.05)
Pieter asks : Did you ever ask yourself why Hindus or Buddhists aren’t attacking us. Although I am not sure who the "us" is that you refer to I would say that it is because we (the British) cleared out of India about the same time as we deserted the Palestinians back in 1947 and today there seem to be more Indians in the UK than there ever were Brits during the Raj; alternatively because we (the Jews) are not occupying any land populated by Hindus and Bhuddists. If by 'we' you mean the Dutch then the only people who might want to attack them are the Belgians who have to put up with their enormous holiday caravans clogging up all the autoroutes.
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