1. From London to Mike's Place and back to London again
Nice that the relatives of the murderer's who carried out the attack on Mike's Place a little over two years ago, were able to keep some extra explosives in the freezer, and use them again. Of course they knew ahead of time what their insane relatives were going to do. That time, three of ours were killed. Unfortunately, this time it hit a little closer to home. My sympathy to the families of the unfortunate victims of the London bombings. Meanwhile,
Mr. Blair continues to offer support to the terrorists, and the Chinese are making a huge profit on those explosives. Does anyone have anything to say about that???
| Faith , |
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2. aim and terorr
if any one has the aim to kill terrorists in any plase in what is called [ware against terror]what is the aim of terrorists in any place .is to kill people only .why it is not in china or in japan . why it is in israil or london or america .what the relation between all
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3. Homocide Bombers
Where is the worldwide outcry of the muslim communities against those barbaric islamic terrorists. Where is their show of love in their presumably peaceful religion.
Let's name it by its real name:this religion is the biggest threat for human mankind in this century.
| Isac , |
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4. Disinformation
What is the betting that the whole of this story is made up propaganda originating in Israel in its attempt (a) to globalise its war on the Palestinian resistance and legitimize its occupation of the West Bank and (b) to cover up the affair of the 15 minute warning to the Israel embassy; this is a clever way of doing that without a full denial which could possibly emerge as a lie in any subsequent public enquiry. There are no hard facts in this article, just a load of speculative and deniable waffle . The question is: should Yediot allow itself be used in this game of disinformation?
| accessol , |
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5. who will stop the terrorism?
The western world will NEVER be able to defeat terrorism.
It will only be when the honest and good muslims decide that they have had enough of violence being carried out in the name of Islam that it will stop.
Only when the majority of the Islam world stands up and says that they will not allow this to continue will there ever be a chance of peace.
Blair, Bush, Sharon... none of you have a chance. Maybe you should work TOGETHER with Muslim countries instead of against them and we may stop the spread of terrorism.
| Jennifer , |
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6. To#4
There are no hardfacts to your story either about Israel getting a 15 minute warning. You must be a writer from the same school of journalism.
Cheers
| Carol , |
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7. Accessol is back with his crackpot hatred
We know this guy. He's been discredited in many other talkbacks with his twisted hatred of Israel.
What's amazing is that he doesn't stop at thinking up the most hairbrained conspiracy theories to try and Make Israel the a fault for everything.
Here's one for YOU. Did you know that Israel receives copies of all the pictures that are taken by speed cameras in England?
It's no more stupid than your half brained lies Accessol.
Didn't you miss the R from between the A and the C in your name ?
| Eli Vardi , |
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8. Perhaps Blair Will Connect The Dots
Perhaps now Blair will make the proper connection - those who blow up Jewish souls in Israel are ONE AND THE SAME as those who blow up souls in Britain.
To make any other connection - via appeasement mode - is vile and delusional.
Memo to Blair - when Jews are blown up in Israe,l and then the IDF targets the likes of Yassin & Rantisi, this is NOT a cycle of violence as you described it. Nor are these killers MILITANTS.
It is the legitimate right of any military to go after those who dispatch the Islamic terror fiends. When London was attacked, you were rightfully outraged and called them TERRORISTS. In the future killer of Jews AND killers of British citizens are TERRORISTS. Plain & simple.
| Adina Kutnicki , |
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9. conspiracy theory
no matter what the media says, the only conspiracy going on is among radical muslims. they are all connected - hamas, jihad, al aksa, al qaeda, hizbollah, brotherhood, you name it.
their motives are the same.
their methods are the same.
their targets are the same.
their hate is the same.
they are all the same.
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10. To Seymour Alexander (4)
"(a) to globalise its war on the Palestinian resistance "
You might be shocked by 'palestinians' are already fighting in Iraq.
Hamas regularly posted videos of attacks on US troops.
http://web.archive.org/web/20041128015706/http://www.hamasonline.com/
"legitimize its occupation of the West Bank"
This is already legitimitized by the fact that the arabs have rejected a state 3 times. And the fact that they have been a constant aggressing party.
And countries can defend themselves even through occupation. Much like the US did to Germany after WWII.
"to cover up the affair of the 15 minute warning to the Israel embassy;"
Just for my knowledge, do you mean that Israel got the warning from the Mossad or british police? Also you enjoy to ignore that in 15 minutes you don't have enough time to check every subway train in London, even assuming that their is any truth to this.
"this is a clever way of doing that without a full denial which could possibly emerge as a lie in any subsequent public enquiry."
Ya, and watch out for those UFO's and black helicopters.
"There are no hard facts in this article, "
Except that the explosives used in the London bombing currently seem to be similar to those used in mike's place. Obviously testing is needed.
"just a load of speculative and deniable waffle ."
Well the warning, and the fact that you decided to add another 9 minutes to the supposed 'warning time'.
"The question is: should Yediot allow itself be used in this game of disinformation?"
I'll re phrase that
The question is: should the Yediot continue to allow itself to be used Seymour alexander in this game of disinformation.
Their I fixed! Hurra!@
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11. If this is true
That means that Hamas is either directly or indirectly connected to the london bombing
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12. disinformation??
Only a true idiot would even try to say that this is just israel propaganda. Are the dead people Israeli propaganda as well.? Were the people lying dead on the floor of my bar propaganda as well?
Some people just dont get it and refuse to face facts even when they are brought right in front of there faces, I pity you. It is beacuse of people like you that this is enabled to happen again and again....
Mikes Place
| Mikes Place , |
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13. More on disinformation
The story about a 15 minute warning to the Israel embassy came from Associated Press not from me and appeared on Ynet last Thursday. (and the difference between today's 6 mins and Thursday's 15 is conveniently just about long enough to justify the embassy's doing nothing with the info to help Londoners). As regards today's crap story, "Mossad sources are quoted as saying there is ' ' high likelihood ' ' the explosives used in Tel Aviv were the same ones used in London." well let's see if this "high liklihood" turns into something a bit more solid that Israel's wishful thinking. Even Yediot put it in double quotes. .
| accessol , |
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14. zionism
if you people don't think israel(plese don't confuse naming the state of israel with naming of jews, it's two separate issues) is making the middle east "safer" then you have a big plate of globalization coming right to your doorstep. mi5 has been caught red handed planting bombs for the ira. ever think who benefits from london getting bombed? it's not the terrorists. we have been fighting a war for israel. all of the office of special plans people are likuid linked neocons... remember the spies in the pentagon? franklin to weissman/rosen to gilon? you people better wake up before it is too late...
| benevelous , |
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15. London, TA Blasts Connected
That's funny, isn't it?
Mossad had enough intel to blame muslims, but not time enough to prevent it and save countless lives.
| YesWeHaveNoBananas , |
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16. to #14
you said:
"ever think who benefits from london getting bombed?"
well, it does benefit the terrorists who did it.
it makes me wonder why you guys talk so much conspiracy talk and so little against the terrorists who did it. just confirms the obvious.
oh, i forget - it is inconceivable that crazy muslims really say they will bomb civilians and then do it, then take the credit for it.
you know, if the mossad is really behind all of this, then osama bin laden is really the chief of the mossad. makes sense, doesn't it?
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17. What did the Mossad do in those 6 minutes?
What would you do? What would you do if you had 6 whole minutes to try to save even one innocent life? Would you call only your Embassy and Netanyahu, as apparently, the Mossad did?
No, you try as hard as you can to save, in utter desperation, every single person possible. You get every person on the phone working on it to warn people. Then, when the media asks, you tell them of your valiant, albeit vain, efforts to save peoples' lives.
This is what you do if you care about people, but not if what you really want is for people to suffer.
Tell me, this time, did Netanyahu say that this blast was "good for Israel", the way he did after 9/11?
| Ken Daves , |
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18. Dear Mr. Daves...(No. 17)
Dear Mr. Daves,
I realize that "Talkback" allows anyone to state anything but your suggestion that the Mossad and Israel want "people to suffer" is baseless and indicative of an individual who is uninformed and has been emotionally manipulated.
| Jay , |
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19. Idiot from AP
OK, a few jerks take a story and run with it like they have with the warnings sent to the Israeli Embassy in London.
Netanyahu was warned after the first bombing NOT before. Now if you are a nut-case you will not believe that just like they are trying to tie Israel with the material used. I think some people need a reading comprehension course myself. Considering Jew haters aren't the brightest bulb in the pack my argument falls on deaf ears and empty skulls.
| Judith , |
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20. to 17
Do you really think in 6 minutes you can somehow find the exact trains and the exact busses that are targeted, and then evacuate all the people off the devices, and then detonate the bomb in a controlled situation? Please, dont be a fool.
Also I think I remember reading that Mossad informed scotland yard. Hmm, maybe you should blame them for not getting to it?
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21. To #16
I don't think the guy in Post #14 said anything about "Osama being the head of the Mossad."
Trying to obfuscate by putting words into other people's mouths just shows lack of debate skills.
However, Post #14 does make a valid point: It does benefit the British, but does NOT benefit the terrorists. Why would terrorists bomb a country that just three days prior had decided to pull all their troops out of Iraq?
You cannot answer that question with any level of credibility. Again "CUI BONO?"
| E.Mullins , |
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22. to Ken Daves
You said "did Netanyahu say that this blast was "good for Israel", the way he did after 9/11? "
I reply" proof kenny, where's the proof? Give me a date and actual quotes to back up your statement.I'll wait. k?
| cliff from montreal , |
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23. TOJAY
Jay,
Here is a question for you. If Hamas hates Israel so bad, then why would Mossad get a warning from them?
So far I have heard several different versions from Israel on the news, as to how they were warned before time about the bombs, then I hear Netanyahu change his story two times about the warning. So why is Israel bringing itself into this. Could they be guilty? By the way who says Mossad is helping Scotland Yard? Funny how an ex I.D.F.officer is right across the street from where the bomb went off. Or is this purely coincidence? Oh yes Mossad has been known to hurt innocent people to prove a point of who should cow down to Israel's demands, read the history of the State of Israel, from the beginning to the end. Israel didn't get the response they wanted did they? Is this why they have tried to exonerate themselves from this? Who else could have gotten the timers and detonators from China, unless the Chinese did it?
Cassie
| Cassie , |
Spanish Fork Utah |
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24. That Bibi Quote
On September 12 2001, Binyamin Netanyahu, Israeli finance minister, was asked how the previous day's terror attacks would affect relations between Israel and the US. "It's very good," he said. "Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy." The attack, Netanyahu explained, would "strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we've experienced terror over so many decades".
| Rowan Berkeley , |
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25. bibi land
Oh, I see,You take this quote from a third party observer (hearsay we call it) and you don't provide a link to that quote( but I found it, here we go
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,10551,1301503,00.html.
Mind you, I should have provided all the fruitcake sites that carried the quote but why bother.You didn't.
So what do we have here? An article published on Sept 10 2004 with this amazing Bibi quotation by one Naomi Klein a real leftwing wacko.Oh and you quote the most anti Jew english paper that ever existed in England.Known to actually 'sex' up their news.Ahh the guardian..a trustworthy source of news.They will always turn over a rock to find any slime and if they don't, they make it up especially if it can make a Jew look bad!
Then maybe you brainiacs took the time to decifer the 'quote' you might conclude that Bibi is not really saying anything bad, in fact, he corrects himself when his statement comes out wrong,but you Jew haters of course will twist it until it turns red.
As usual, no words for losers like you.
| cliff from montreal , |
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26. the liabilty factor
Unfortunately, my comment submitted yesterday, has not been published. Strange, strange.
I would like to repeat that I find it highly regrettable to see Ynet news are actually quoting Bild am Sonntag, a German newspaper that has been known for repeated inaccurate research, false reports and infringement of the press codex.
Why does Ynet news have to rely on a newspaper like this when they could reach a Mossad press representative and not even have communication difficulties? The Bild am Sonntag publishes in German only - so does it seem effortless to have someone translate the article rather than getting a Hebrew speaker on the phone?
I'm disappointed. It is actions like this that puts scratches to the liability factor.
| Avital , |
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27. Bild story
New york Times: British investigators believe that the 10-pound bombs used in the coordinated terrorist attacks here contained "military quality" high-grade explosives, British and European counterterrorism officials said Monday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/12/international/europe/12intel.html?th&emc=th
There is no confirmation of any warning from Mossad or any other organisation from any government official or in any British media.
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28. ‘London, Tel Aviv blasts connected’
Quote "Mossad office in London received advance notice about the attacks, but only six minutes before the first blast, the paper reports. As a result, it was impossible to take any action to prevent the blasts. " Really ! Lucky Mossad, unlike the people blown to bits on the tube. Six minutes is quite a long time, long enough to do somthing.
Quote "However, the story makes it unclear whether the Mossad is involved in any way in the investigation into the London bombings." This should read "However, the story makes it unclear whether the Mossad was involved in any way in the execution of the London bombings."
When will people realise they are being deceived. Just exactly WHO BENEFITS from these "Islamic" terror bombings??
Peace.
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29. Halutz: No ties between London attacks, Mike's Place bombing
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/599110.html
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30. London Tel-Aviv blasts connected.
Hold your horses people.
Israel's Minister of Foreign Affairs said on Israeli TV that Israel was not warned of the bombings that took place in London last week. The UK police are now saying that the four bombers were British & had died in the blasts.
| Birdi , |
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