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IDF reoccupies Tulkarem    By Efrat Weiss and Ali Waked
1. And it should remain under occupation.;
until all the terrorist cells are disarmed... How many more teenage girls enjoying their summer break have to die?
(07.13.05)
2. Bombing
Any one who decided to go with this bombing doesn't follow any palestininan agenda,becuae timing and target are just WRONG, Jehad is just recieving instructions from the bloody regime in Tehran
Ahmad ,   Nablus   (07.13.05)
3. Ending Israeli occupation is the only solution
Like something has really changed. Israel has been occupying and closing W Bank and Gaza since 1967 and nothing has changed. A quick and complete end to Israeli occupation in W Bank and Gaza is the only way out of this mess.
Carl ,   Long Beach, CA   (07.13.05)
4. I agree with # 1. This land is ours !
After the bomb attack Palestinians now must take their responsabilities ! They are the responsibles and we have to keep all Judea and Shomron and Gaza under the israeli control because this land is our land !
Eli Vardi ,   Israel   (07.13.05)
5. Fake message above !
Some idiot rightwinger is faking my name on their postings ! Doesn't anyone at YNET check the e-mail addresses? Regardin #2. You're right, I'm sure, but shouldn't the Palastinians deal with these people? You know that we can't allow these things to happen. Put your house in order, these people will destroy both of us.
Eli Vardi ,   Israel   (07.13.05)
6. amhappy@gmail.com
Unfortunately, the same scenario happens again, a suicide bomber and then an Israeli invasion, but I gotta a question, when is the Israelis are going to realize that when they reoccupied the Palestinian territories they only solve the symptoms and forget the sickness it self, in other words the sickness is the Palestinians miserable lives and there starvation, unemployment, leak of security and humiliation, in the other hands the symptoms is the suicide bombers, we need to fix the cause of the problem not the symptoms.
peace ,   USA   (07.13.05)
7. to #3
from your comment, you seem to believe that Israel's presence in judea-samaria and gaza are the cause of all the attacks on jews. then why is it that everytime, Israel handsover arab settlements to the PA and withdraws from certain areas there is an upsurge in terror attacks. In other words, when Israel leaves, terror attacks increase. so the facts seem to contradict your assumption. And if the so called occupation is hte cause, why were the arabs killings Jews before 1967. Why were the arabs killing Jews before 1948. The Jews were just living there and between 1948 and 1967 JEws weren't even permitted to live in judea-samaria and gaza which were controlled by jordan and egypt respectively. It would seem that history and facts contradict your statement, which was probalby based on arab/muslim propaganda. Oh, if you beleive that propganda, amybe you'll believe their other claim that muslims weren't responsable for the sept 11th terror attacks. if you do, i hear the golden gate bridge is for sale...you might want to go check it out.
(07.13.05)
8. Completer Seperation From the Palestinians
This barbaric suicide bombing just underscores the urgent need for complete separation between Israel and the Palestinians. The disengagement process should go ahead as planned followed by some additional withdrawals and the completion of the security fence should be accelerated. I once believed in coexistence with the Palestinians, but unfortunatelly, the situation proves that I was wrong. The legendary Abba Eben has said once that the Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity, and he was so right.
Moti ,   Herzlia, Israel   (07.13.05)
9. Complete seperation from who?
Like define a Palestinian? Seperation can't work and is a complete nonsensical suggestion because : 1. Who is a Palestinian? There are 1.5 Million Israeli SArabs living here. Some consider themselves Palestinians AS WELL as being full Israeli citizens. 2. My Family have lived here for generations, are we Palestinians? 3. It's been proven time and time again that fear and hatred always applies to people you've never met or known. How else can you explain anti-Jewish sentiment in Japan? 4. In Haifa, Bei Shean Valley, Safat and other places in Israel Jews and Arabs work together peaceably respecting each other culture. 5. I suggest you visit the website www.nationalalliance.com to see how a racially segregated society would work. Know your neighbour, fear him less. The truth is usually a whole lot frightening than you imagine
Eli Vardi ,   Israel   (07.13.05)
10. Forr Eli Vardi
Ok ,,, you must keep the west bank and gaza in your hands but you did for 37 years and got nothing except victoms from both side , its really stupied to think like that 3.5 million of paliatinians living here are guests and 250000 settlers are the land owners . think again dear Eli By a chance now iam sitting at home cant get out even to buy some bread because we are living here in tulkarm city under curfew and occupation now
TAHER ,   TOLKAREM   (07.13.05)
11. todah ahmad in nablus
Ahmad. thank you very much for condeming the bombing and saying it does not belong on the agenda of the Palestineans. If you were in power, we could have peace between us quickly. Let us pray your voice becomes the voice of the silent majority and innocents can stop dying on both sides.
al ,   san francisco   (07.13.05)
12. # 6, not the root causes again
Dear Peace, I think you are deeply misinformed about the sources of Palestinean misery. Before 2000, Palestineans had seen a huge jump in their living conditions. Infant mortality way down, income way up, colleges constructed way up, sewers and water supplies way up. Then Arafat called for another war. He kept hundreds of millions of dollars from international donors meant to raise the Arabs living standards-- kept it in his own bank accounts. So don't tell us Israel is to blame when they defend themselves from terror, because there are a lot of people far more informed than you who will call your claims crap.
al ,   san francisco usa   (07.13.05)
13. a farce
the whole Sharm el Sheik understanding and agreements were noting but a farce, the Zionist regime were supposed to cease it fire, It simply did not, the Zionist occupaiton army had killed over 75 Palestinians since the agreements took place, but to no avail. the PA was supposed to kill and murder the ressitance (AKA terrorists by our enemy, the Zionists) and when she failed in doing so, the Zionists did the job with huge collatoral damage (another word for murdering civilians). meatime, the occupation did not do anything in imporiving any one's life since march: 1-the road blocks are still there. 2-Tulkarm as Jericho are subgected to constant attacks and sudden closures. 3-the Occupation army nver stopped entering the cities, such as Nablus and Jenin, killing and murdering our youth and children, like have been doing in Balata refugee camp ,just last week they killed two children at the camp. to the moron from Nablus called, Ahmad, I say: enough is enough, have not you seen the mourinig porcession of the two children killed in Balata? have not you seen the mourning porcession of the other youths in Balata two weeks ago? or you are too busy chating with the girls from Tel Aviv? Although I am against targeting civilians, however, what Jihad did yesterday is part of the dirty war that was imposed upon us by the Zionists, especially when they target our children, just like what they did last week in Balata. What is good for the goose is good for the gandor
Ahmad Abouali ,   Nablus, Falsteen   (07.13.05)
14. For # 10
You misunderstood. The #4 entry is a fake, I didn't write it ! I am for a seperate Palestinian State. I believe that the Palestinian Arabs have the ability and talents to build a great state with equality and good living standards for all. Unfortunately the terror groups of Al Aks, Islamic Jehad and Hamas are interested in a power struggle for the hearts of the masses, and are each trying to show that they are strongest. They have to turn their organisations to developing the State. Can you imagine what you could achieve if they spent all that energy and effort towards building a state instead of destroying one? It's Arafats heritage that he split his people into more groups so there would be more infighting. Instead of trying to destroy us, which you cannot do, start building your own State. And boot out those terrorists that will ruin both of us !
Eli Vardi ,   Israel   (07.13.05)
15. re israel preventing action
How in heavens name can the palestinian authority ever convince public opinion by saying that they would act strongly against terrorist leaders but are prevented from doing so by israeli security measures. Please Mr Abbas dont take the israelis for idiots and dont take the international comm for granted.Tulkarem has been under your authority for quite a while now ,and the killings and murders of israelis has been going on for as long.Why does the palestinian authority not come to terms with the fact that they are incapable of handling the situation?and ask the israelis for a joint action in erradicating these murderes.Lebanon has asked israel for help regarding the recent attacks ,so why not the palestinians?Cant all the talkbackers that ask for an israeli withdrawall see that it is in the process?What do they think has been the main topic in all the newspapers ?THE ISRAELI WITHDRAWAL SHMUCKS.Lets all put our SEICHELS together and say in one voice WAKE UP SPEAK UP and STAND UP in the name of common sense.AMEN.SHALOM TO ALL.
tony ,   france   (07.13.05)
16. To 13
"the whole Sharm el Sheik understanding and agreements were noting but a farce, the Zionist regime were supposed to cease it fire, It simply did not, the Zionist occupaiton army had killed over 75 Palestinians since the agreements took place, but to no avail. " I agree it's a farce but the fact is that the arabs have been breaking it non-stop. Ever since the stage attack http://www.ynetnews.com/home/1,7340,L-3341,00.html?SearchType=TopNav&criteria=&txtSearchString=mortar&txtChanID=3083&select1=Site I have a hard time believing that 75 have been killed, maybe if you add internal fighting and the execution of collaborators sure. And then if you add all those killed in the process of doing attacks then it's believable. " the PA was supposed to kill and murder the ressitance (AKA terrorists by our enemy, the Zionists) and when she failed in doing so," This their responsibility. They have agreed to do this. But have refused to follow through. Either they start or the road map is officially dead. "the Zionists did the job " LOL, I wish the IDF was doing it's job. If it was half these attacks wouldn't have happened. "with huge collatoral damage (another word for murdering civilians). " Besides the fact that the geneva convention disagrees with you. These deaths are the responsibility of the terrorists who hide in the civilian populations. No terrorists in town, no reason for the IDF. "1-the road blocks are still there. With good reason http://www.ynetnews.com/home/1,7340,L-3341,00.html?SearchType=TopNav&criteria=&txtSearchString=roadblock&txtChanID=3083&select1=Site Weapons smuggling has only grown ever since the 'hudna' (I use that term lightly) "Tulkarm as Jericho are subgected to constant attacks and sudden closures. " Considering yesterdays attacks, with good reason, and by attacks you mean patrols and arrests. It's fairly obvious that once Israel let it go, those cities became terror hubs. "the Occupation army nver stopped entering the cities, such as Nablus and Jenin," Considering Nablus's and Jenin's history, it's not suprising. "killing and murdering our youth and children, like have been doing in Balata refugee camp ,just last week they killed two children at the camp. " You mean the ones throwing molotov cocktails, pipebombs, and stones? "have not you seen the mourinig porcession of the two children killed in Balata? have not you seen the mourning porcession of the other youths in Balata two weeks ago?" You mean like the ones where the dead body was dropped, then magically got up and laid down again? "Although I am against targeting civilians, however, what Jihad did yesterday is part of the dirty war that was imposed upon us by the Zionists," Yet ignoring that this was started by you! And the fact that you are the ones fighting one of the most dirty wars ever! ", especially when they target our children, " Really? You still have yet to respond to my comment #11 here http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3095267,00.html Also you like to ignore these things where terror groups are making children into soldiers http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13154917,00.html You also ignore the fact that two of the killed from yesterday were 16. "What is good for the goose is good for the gandor" If thats the way you want it, Lets pull out 155mm and begin the carpet bombings. Because honestly I've had enough. Israel gives and gives and gives. And what does it get? more terrorism. Concessions do not work. It's time to admit that this is a clash of cultures and it's time to fight what we are fighting. A war of existence. It's either them or us.
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17. peace#6
Cher #6.Why dont we start with a scenario where ther is no suicide bomber,and before you say it ,israel is going ahead with the withdrawal ,so why are there still murders?Let me ask you one question ,Have you ever been to israel?No i dont think so ,The israelis are also suffering from pauvrete poverty" their lives are also miserable and let me inform you that a lot of israelis are unemployed.The lack of security and humiliation as you say ,are not due to israeli actions ,take a good look at who is running the daily events of the palestinians,and you will see who is creating all this suffering.Let me sum it up for you ,the "HAMAS;the EL AQUSA the militant party of Mr ABBAS the FATAH it is all these murdering terrorists that are making the palestinians and the israelis live miserable.If and when the palestinians decide that they have had enough of this PA corruption these extremists who decide whats "good for the people"only then will we have a democratic free deciding people to make peace with.Let me also remind you that all the millions of dollars given to the palestinians by the international comm has all been detoured by the gross coruption of the palestinian authority,that is why they are suffering and starving and unemployed,as you put it.So my cher friend it is wiser to get the facts right before voicing opinion,then we will not have to waste so much time in explaining the reality on the terrain. AS sung in the film THE ROCKY HORROR "WE SHOULD REMOVE THE CAUSE AND NOT THE SYMTOM" LECHAIM TO LIFE
tony ,   france   (07.13.05)
18. Fixing
Who's going to do the fixing. The civilzed world has poured more money per capita over a longer period of time into aid programs for these people than any other aid program and their situation is still not 'fixed'. The Arab countries have waged ceaseless war against Israel, ostensibly to ' fix' the situation and the situation of the Arab residents in the West Bank and Gaza is worse than it's ever been. The Terror Organizations hailing from these same areas have given a new meaning to the word terror and the condition of the residents in the streets of Nablus, Ramallah and Jenin has deteriorated steadily. The Arab world has fed these unfortunate people on the pabulum ( and this since 1948) that one day they will return to the sovereign State of Israel and all that has happened is that the so called refugee camps have become more crowded and more squalid. Israel made Mr Arafat an offer of a state and he chose to wage all out war in reply. The result a further setback in the narrative of these hapless people. So who is going to do the fixing?
Mark ,   Israel   (07.13.05)
19. I agree with # 1
free mason ,   chicago   (07.13.05)
20. Poor Mark, he got it backwards!
Youy made a blanket statement on the civilized word giving us money, more that any one like us per capita: and here is my questions to you, Mr. know it all 1- Can you provide us with your sources on the "huge amount of money we had received" from the civilized world (be careful, not to include the 'savage' world) and how much the sums of moneies? 2- Can you, kindly, sir provide us with a situation similar to ours, whereas illegal aliens come from overseas, ethincleans you, rob your land and history, opresses you and kill your people? The deterioration of our lives is due to the Zioinst occupation of our land, and the terror inflected upon us by the colonists and their IDF guards, what we had done is to defend ourselves in face of all that, please, do put the horse before the carriage, not the other way around! You see, Mark, between 1967 (actually 1948) and 1994 (when the first suicide attack took place at Al Haram Ibrahim, Alkhalil, carried out by your own Zionist fascist, Baruch Goldstien) we carried no attacks on you, while during that period, you had erected over 230 colonies, confiscated 50% of our lands, arrested (and relased) close to 1/3 of the palestinian population, and murdered thousands of our civilians. What the "terror org" had done is to avenge, as much as they can (when possible) your fascism, opression , and the death of our children (read about the Intifada stats. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ and http://www.phrmg.org/) you see, Mark, you had lost your 'mark' when you made your naive and misleading statement when you reduced us to beggers and looking for the aid package, we are not, we are looking for freedom, liberty, and salvation from your occupation and subgecation. The Arab world had fed us nothing, rather we know, for fact, that this land is ours, and we will retun to it,sooner or later, as for the refugee camps, you are right they are squalid, and that thanks to the "avlanche of aid form the civilized world". israel offered Arafat a meager 70% of the west bank (i.e less than 15% of our ancestoral homeland) that offer excluded: 1-Arab East Jerusalem. 2-The Jordan river basin. 3-4 Colonial cluster areas such as Ariel and Gosh Etsion. 4-the Air space of the "suggested" state. 5-the sea boundaries fo the suggested state. 6-All the international access to the "generously offered state" was to be under Israelis sovergeinty. 7-All West Banks water aquafiers to be under the veto of Israel. Then you have the balls to tell us that we were offerd a state?! Arafat did not wage a war, only idiot will accept your logic "we offered his a state, his reply was a war"!!?? come on Mark! the era of miracles and unexplained myths has gone long time aqgo, and no one is buying except few morons! We are helpless due to your agression and terrorism in occupying our land, and murdering our people, yes I admit we are helpless in facing you with Uncle Sam pouring avalanches of $$ and military hardawre that, in some cases, NATO do not get it till years to come. So what the fix? look around and : 1-Leave the West bank, Golan and Gaza alone...take with that your colonists. 2-Allow the refugees back to their homes. 3-Accept that for every terror act you carry, there are going to be a reaction to it, whither you like it or not. Finally, give up that arrogance and patronizing langauge you are using, that if you want to be taken seriously.
Ahmad Abouali ,   Nablus-West Bank   (07.13.05)
21. for taher
cher taher ,ask your self why you are sitting at home ,and not able to buy bread.You seem an intelligent person,dont you think its about time the palestinians got together as a "people" as "one" and protested against the hamas the el aqsa the fatah and g-d knows who else?Havent you also had enough of their lies ,when they say that what they're doing is for the people.I'm sure you the real palestinians would like to start living like human biengs.Not once have the palestinian people revolted,Iguess maybe if you do gaza might turn into a mini bagdad.So I think you are the ones under occupation ,yes and not only by the israelis ,but more so by your own people.
steven ,   france   (07.13.05)
22. ahmad abouali
Just a few questions please.Are you an adult or a teenager.because your talk back gives me the impression that no matter what one says ,your anti jewish sentiments areclear for all to see.You say that the IDFtargets your youth and children ,please ,what are these children doing out on the front lines anyway?Why are'nt you adults if you are,in the place of your children ,no matter what the circumstances,your children should be at home,or at school,and why not ,getting a better education ,so that they may improuve what their parents did not manage to give them.Your words are fullhatred zionist this and zionist that.When a palestinian is killed ,do you see rejoicing in the street of israel?No ,I doubt it ,When a pregnant mother and her children are killed in adrive by shooting or blown to pieces by one of your "youth"its you who rejoice and sing and dance in the streets.May you should also be chating with the girls in TEL AVIV.instead of chating all this anti-zionist talk.
steven ,   france   (07.13.05)
23. Same old garbage
The same lies go on. The Plaestinains send in their peace by death child and after make their obligiatory rhetoric. The IMOPTENT Israeli leader,Sharon sends in a token force until the anger dies down and once again it's back to dismember and destroy Israel thru disengagement.
Marcel ,   Florida   (07.13.05)
24. Sympathy
Your sympathy is appreciated but I don't want it and above all I don't need it. You ask for facts and figures (find them for yourself, it will be ahealthy exercise) regarding aid, you refer to your people as beggars (your term not mine) and you then proceed to repeat the same pathetic mantra with its revision of historical fact that has provided you with the excuse for the lamentable situation in which you find yourselves and for the rationale for the evil that is the suicide bomber. I despise people who descend to name calling but I am constrained to do it myself just this once. You, Sir are a racist. because from everything that you write you genuinely believe that you're People are so inferior that they are incapable of overcoming adversity as my People did, and building a state as we have.
Mark ,   Israel   (07.13.05)
25. TERRORIZE ALL TERRORISTS
PREEMPT - go to the source - the brains in Damascus & beyond
moshe ben noded ,   tarzana CA   (07.13.05)
26. for steven
Dear steven you are living in france you dont know what is going here , the occupation is the main reason for what we all face , your problem that you look at any accident separately of the whole situation .... do you know that iam married from a ruusian woman and have a 11 years old son who live in russia and cant arrive here because the israelis refused to give my wife a permission to arrive do you know that here in tulkarm dosens of sudents were killed in a cool blood by the israli soldiers during the intifadah do know that the isralis transfered dangerous chemical factories from israel to west side of tulkarm which pollute the air here and causes dangerous illnesses to the people of tulkarem do you know that most of lands of tulkarm were taken of our farmers by strength ok >>>>> do you know that 5 million of palistinian people live in camps do know do know >>>>> The isralis occupation is the most aggressive occupation not only our people say that but also the human rights organizations in the world and open minded people in israel itself please be an open minded person thanks
taher ,   tolkarem   (07.13.05)
27. #26 Lies & Propaganda
Stop this imperenating people rubbish ! There are no poison chemical factories - shades of the gas chambers? No students were killed in cold blood by the IDF Fictional garbage. Taher, Get on with building your State and go your own way. You're in serious need of pychological treatment if you REALLY believe this nonsense
Eli Vardi ,   Israel   (07.13.05)
28. to # 10
You cannot go out to buy bread cos the IDF has reoccupied Tulkarem. You want to know why??????? cos the sick Netanyia suicide bomber who killed & wounded innocent people yesterday, CAME FROM TULKAREM. No West Bank town is under 24 hour curfew, so soon you will be able to go out to buy your bread.
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.13.05)
29. to # 26
palestinian students killed ?? when, show us proof. Poison chemicals ?? where, show us proof. Stop crying & get on with your life, you wont get any sympathy here.
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.13.05)
30. bread / Birdi
If many people in israel think the same way you think never peace will be achieved...... please open your mind and think why should palestinians youths suiside to kill innocent israelis why ..... who is the real responsible for that ???? think one time objectively in your life for bread my mama prepared by herself for us it is delicious dont worry !!!!!
taher ,   tolkarem   (07.13.05)
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