1. very cheap PR
It is very sad for these two children to die on the hand of a revenge attack, andmy heart goes to the families.
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However, there are five folds Palestinian children had been murdered on the hands of the IDF in the past 5 years ( http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ )
please stop the usage of children blood to justify occupation and Israeli fascism
| Ahmad Abouali , |
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2. HEARTBREAKING beyond belief.
May their Beautiful Innocent Souls rest in peace together with all our other murdered People.
| alan , |
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3. to the idiot Ahmad Abouali
he Ahmad NEVER compare the 2 cases stupid man. The IDF NEVER kill in PURPOSE like your palestinians brothers do against israeli civilians. your palestinians brothers TARGET jewish civilians in purpose ! And u love to become Shaheed right ? So shut up !
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4. AhmadNablus is Shchem and it is the land of Israel
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5. death of Rachel, Nofar (and others)
Terror like this, like this everywhere, will never cease until we deal with the hatred that dwells within us. And, come to learn that violence begets violence.
It is a long, I dare NOT say impossible, journey.
Hearts will bleed for a long long time
shalom
| bastiaan , |
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6. to ahmad
talking about cheap prpoganda... this b.s site ,ifamericaknew.. it's a total fabrication and untrue!.. beleive you me, a mericans know... they knowthat---
palestnans are a fabrication ,and a recent historical myth.
they know that "palestinians" have invented modern terrorism ,via plane hijacking, athletes murdering ,and embassies blowups.
they know that arabs treid repeatadly to throw the jews to the sea, and got their a** whopped, repeatedly.
americans also know how trecherous and unreliable the arabs are ,and that besides oil(not ofr long) , and human bombs, the arabs have nothing else to offer.
how's that for prpoganda? and while you're at it , get going and get some humus ,quickly!
| ozy , |
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7. Ahmed, it is all very easy...
All you Palestinians have to do is to stop the violence and the killing will stop. If children dying really bothers you, then stop killing them. It is really that simple. This war is entirely of the making of the Palestinians, you could have gotten a realistic solution at the negotiating table back in July 2000. So don't complain now that your children are dead.
| Dan , |
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8. INNOCENT JEWS MURDERED FOR LIVING ON LAND G-D GAVE TO JEWS
One Jew murdered is one Jew too many.
I am so grieved at the horrible suffering of the Jewish people. Innocent Jews maimed and murdered because the Islamist goal is world domination and subjugation of ALL non-Muslims.
G-D commanded: "You shall not murder."
The Holy One, G-D, the Creator, warns in the Bible:
Obadiah 1:15 "For the day of the L-RD draws near on all the nations. As you have done, it will be done to you. Your dealings will return on your own head."
Jonah 3:8 "let men call on G-D earnestly that each may turn from his wicked way and from the violence which is in his hands."
| Linda Rivera , |
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9. Reply to all
Well, I'm not totally surprised to read those comments in reply to Ahmed. I just want to let them know that there are so many statistics and facts that shows the brutality of the IDF when it comes to dealing with Palestinian Civilians. The problem with the Isrealis and the Americans that they forget easily or they are in disbelief or brainwashed according to what the media feed their brains accordingly. I think you forgot about Mohamad AlDura who was shut in his fathers hand infront of all media members and so other killings which I will not keep counting them. I also would like to remind you of the all the atrocities the IDF committed in south Lebanon. What you call QANA? Deir Yasseen? Sabra and Shateela? Weren't your prime minister Sharon accused of it and was codemened.
Also Mr. Dan, I don't know where you come from but its obvious you are over watching CNN and Fox news these days. Do some effort in reading more about the crisis instead of critisizing or commenting about it from Nashville. Since when its so interesting the Middle East crisis to you guys. I also want to tell you, you should read more about history especially to the 2000 meeting. Mr. Dan check what the US soldiers (CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS OR President Bush COWBOYS) are doing in Iraq, Afghanistan .....What u call the civilians killed? Military mistake? Or collateral damage? ...........Its never ending. Peace in the Middle East.
| Mowaten Araby , |
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10. one blood
When there is justice, I will assure you there will be no " violence". Sharon started all this violence September 2001. so stop land Grabbing, and stop building your settlement deep inside the Palestinina land, THEN all this violence and killing will stop. so dont make things more tragic..
| Raya Akal , |
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11. Raya, Check your facts
With all the will in the world I couldn't let your piece of nonsense pass without commenting.
The world , and his brother, knows that Arafat was just waiting for an excuse to start the 2nd intifada in 2001.
If it hadn't been Sharon going onto the Temple mount it would have been some other excuse.
Arafat had reached a dead end. He had very litle more to negotiate for so he either had to shut up or put up.
So he reverted to the intifada. There was no reason to start the period of violence that cost many Palestinian Arab and Israeli lives.
That is part of Arafat's inheritance. He never cared for the poor people, he just manipulated them to protect his own interets. Palestine was his own personal money mill.
Have you forgotten how the PA had to chase after the Billions that he stole from you?
Have you forgotten the $20m settlement for his wife? Have you forgotten how he dumped her when she didn't bring him a son?
Now you have a new chance to build a state. A state that Arafat NEVER wanted to create. It was just the carrot, the mirage, to hang in front of your eyes.
Now you have a chance to build a great future for you and your children.
So control your fanatical madmen and start building your future.
For your childrens sake.
| Eli Vardi , |
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12. to mwaten--
it seems to me that you are the one who's brain washed .. too much al- jazzera?
frist ,it was proven beyond any reasonable doubt ,that al dura was killed by palestinan fire ,and NOT THE IDF.
secondly , neither sharon or the idf have committed any crimes in sabra and shatila. it was thechristian falalngas, acting as a revenge for the massacres committed by the palestininas against the christian population.
thirdly, the crisis is neverending ,because it serves the arab countries to continue to fuel it-- this way the attention is diverted away from thier dictatorial regimes.
only a compltere overhaul in the arab world can lead to some settelment and acceptence of the jewish state .
| ozy , |
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13. Reply to OZY
Mr. Ozy....
LoL, I assure you that I don't watch Al-Jazeera since I'm an Arab as much as I watch CNN or read ynet.
I won't prolonge my reply to you but I attached some information about the Sabra and Shatila Massacre in 1982 and some facts that shows the condemnation of Ariel Sharon and his resignation afterwards. You can also browse the internet to learn more if your willing to do so. I do take your not reply to other issues I raised as an acceptance to what I've said in my previous reply. Check this out.....!
According to statements made by Ariel Sharon on 22 September 1982 in the Knesset (Israeli parliament), the decision that the Phalangists should enter the refugee camps was made on Wednesday, 15 September 1982 at 15.30.[7] Also according to General Sharon, the Israeli Command had received the following instruction: “'[t]he Tsahal[8] forces are forbidden to enter the refugee camps. The “mopping-up” of the camps will be carried out by the Phalanges or the Lebanese army.”[9].......
.....the Israeli parliament (Knesset) named a commission of inquiry, to be presided over by Mr Yitzhak Kahan, in September 1982. In spite of the limitations of the Commission’s mandate (limited because it was a political rather than a judicial mandate and because the voices and demands of the victims were completely ignored), the Commission concluded that the Minister of Defence was personally responsible for the massacres.[12]
Upon the insistence of the Commission, and the demonstrations that followed its report, Mr Sharon resigned from his post of Minister of Defence but remained in the government as Minister without Portfolio. It is worth noting that during the "Peace Now" demonstration immediately prior to Sharon’s "resignation," demonstrators were attacked with grenades, resulting in the death of a young demonstrator.[13]
How can you ignore those important facts? Did you hatred blind you from seeing/seeking the truth?
You think the Arab has benefit in keeping the crisis on? Who is benefiting from the US taxes; military arsenal and the world sympathy.
God bless your souls all.
| Mowaten Araby , |
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14. to raya akal
what you and the arab world consider "justice" is the disappearence act of jews form thier legitimate land. what you consider"justice" is the complete islamization of the land of israel. keep in mind that MANY of the settelments on the w.bank ,were built on lands that wereBOUGHT ,and therefore a legal and just. many of the land owe"oweners"fled abroad ,or were murdered by thier arab brothers....
so all you greivensess are a bunch of nonses.
as oppose to my esteemed collegue ,mr.vardi, i don''t think you deserve a "state ,but at most some relocation compensations.
| ozy , |
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15. Reply to Mowaten Araby
Why do you think the Israeli army needs to use its weapons inside civilian location in the Palestinian territories?
Hint: Palestinian terrorists hide in civilian places, and then they say "see... the Israelies are monsters".
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16. back to mowaten
no, i didn't addres the dir yassin unfortunate event because it did happen , regretfully.
the sharon affair, and what you consider his 'INCRIMINATION, DIDN'T HAPPEN .... I KNOW IT FOR A FACT ,BECAUSE I WAS IN S. BEIRUT WHEN THE SABRA/SHATILA EVENTS TOOK PLACE....sharon was forced to resign ,because there was a huge public pressure on begin to fire him ,due to the lebanon mess.
so ,no court has ever convicted sharon of anywrong doing fyi.
secondly, the u.s sends 3.4 billion dollars to egypt, and 1.7 billioons to s.arabia. what does it get in return?/ 9/11... thank you.
and yes ,the arab world hates the so called palestinans ,for a good measure, because to hate the jews even more and wish to continue to fuel this conflict indefenitley.
| ozy , |
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17. aMads is a brainwashed and hopeless hate bot
aMads is a brainwashed and hopeless hate bot
For a start maddy STOP saying stupid and untrue comments.You have no credibility at all in this forum.
Proof you are a lowlife terror supporter and slave master..
| cliff from montreal , |
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18. more child murder
sickening. you arabs really need to start growing up and realize that violence will get you no where. you should turn in the people who committed this crime. and keep your argument that they murder 4 times the number of children than you murder. yes, that is true, but it is still no excuse to stoop to their level.
| edward , |
las vegas |
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19. Oh edwierd,,we see thought you.
Hey edwierd.Why don't you annswer my questions coward?Why you refuse to denounce terror against Jews? You are nothing but an agent for the forces that seek to destroy the country you currently reside in.Quisling troll.
| cliff from montreal , |
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20. Reply to A, EG and Ozy
First of all, A from EG (Wherever is that) you are not worth the reply!!! All what I can ask you about the Palestinians dying on checkpoints trying to go to hospitals or women giving birth to themselves using blades....Do you call this act of humanity? Or will you tell me now she is giving birth to future terrorists? What threat they are causing the Israeli settlers?
Ozy.....I respect the regret you showed to Der Yassine massacre...At least you acknowledged something....The millions of dollars Egypt is receiving from the US is the price of the peace agreement with the Israelis in 1978 not for the US generousity as you think and as of the Saudis its the price of the billion of gallons of fuel sent to the US. Actually S. Arabia its in debt b/c its still paying the US for the cost of the Gulf war in 1991.
Just for the God sake, read more .....and find the truth...
Thank you
| Mowaten Araby , |
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21. ahmad; There is no "Palestine." The land of Oz is more real!
How can you be "Palestinian" when it's a Roman name? You Arabs belong in Arabia!
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22. mowaten; Arabs don't know the meaning of the truth!
All you people know how to do is lie. The "Palestinian" people and country is the biggest lie ever told. You illegal Arab occupiers should go to Aabia!
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23. Two angels murdered by a savage demonic Arab!
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24. souless people like "cliff" live for these moments
they take advantage of other peoples misery in order to spew more hatred. "cliff", i have condemned violence against innocent jewish civilians several times, i guess you just have a selective memory. and i do so again, for at least the third time. this bombing is dispicable, and those responsible should be brought to justice. child murder has no place in any society
| edward , |
las vegas |
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25. Reply to Daisy
We lie as much as President Bush lied to his country about Iraq nuclear weapons. As much as he is going to war and sending back bags of death US soldiers in order to promote peace in the Middle East. If so, send back your ILLEGAL OCCUPIERS back to the US from Iraq. Is that called occupying or what did FOX news teach you. You look like a follower more then someone who wants to use his brain.
Also, if you wanna call me an illegal occupier...for your information the US government granted me this legal status which your government and citizens are benefiting from my work . At least my presence in the US is legal. What about the US presence in Iraq?What you call it, Daisy?
| Mowaten Araby , |
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26. Daisy, know how to pick your words.
| Mowaten Araby , |
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27. Reply to Mowaten Araby
You say I am not worth a reply then you reply... ok. You didn't answer my question, so I will assume you agree with me.
Now I will ask another question: Why does Israel need checkpoints with extreme security measures?
Hint: To prevent terrorists from entering Israel and bombing Israeli civilians.
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28. new plan
Okay, I call for a new plan.
We'll all human beings just with a different way of praying to God.
We just disagree on whose land we are on. The Jews in Israel believe it should belong to the Jews. The Muslims in Israel believe it should belong to the Muslims.
There are 3 solutions:
1. It goes to the Jews.
2. It goes to the Muslims.
3. It's shared.
Okay so everyone has different ideas about it and whatever solution comes out is going to make a lot of people unhappy.
But hey guys, let's not kill other people over it! Let's argue, shout, scream, have demonstrations, but murder? Is that necessary?
So let's not blame anyone, let's ignore history for a moment (hey every seems to disagree about that too!) and let's just see that with the present government (hey even the Jews can't decide who should run the government), if we can avoid killing each other.
Let's see if for one year, there will be nobody blowing themselves up in shopping malls, discos, cafes, buses. And then there will be no need for the army to take any action whatsoever. Let's have everyone spending their free time watching TV, surfing the net, reading, cinema, etc., and not doing reserve duty in the Israeli army, or blowing themselves up.
After one year of relaxation, let's talk. Let's see which option is realistic. Let's even have heated debates, hey let's even allow a bit of shouting at each other (but not too much).
But enough killing please. It hasn't worked for the past 50 years. Let's try a more civilised approach to solving problems.
| Raphael , |
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29. Reply to A, EG
At least you are agreeing with me since you didn't answer my question as well or its so hard to you to admit it.
For you information they are not terrorists, they are resistance. Moreover, its meaningless arguing with you since you wanna proof no matter what that we are the cause of terror to the Israelis. Oh right, the stones we throw on their armors and not the Israeli appatches and all US arms used by the IDF.
| Mowaten Araby , |
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30. Mowaten; get out my country now!
Most Americans don't want crazy Arabs here!
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