31. End the illegal Arab occupation of Jewish land!
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32. Mowaten; I'LL ALWAYS SPEAK THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHAT!
I will keep saying the truth about Arabs to everyone I know and even strangers. I'm not Jewish but I will always support the Jews!
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33. to mowaten
it appears that the truth that you are seeking is slightly different from the one i seek---
1. where were any arab national notions prior to 1967? none ,zero.
2. w.bank arabs were jordanians citizens. how did they '"palestinians", virtually overnight?
3.you are correct - the u.s. buoght/buys the peace with egypt , a fact that re-emphasises the fact that the arab world is not really willing to accept the jewish entity in its midst.
4. until this historicall event takes place, and "palestinans" continue to blow up civilians, israel must take all necessary measures include-- road blocks, curfews, arrests ,preemptive strikes, etc, to insure the utmost safety of its citizens.
5.arafat and ghis gang of murderers never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity ,if they really and truley wanted peace with israel.
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34. The truth about "Palestine" and the "Palestinians."
read this;
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/palestine.htm
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35. my condolances to the family. Wish you a long life
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36. Reply to Daisy
Daisy, I can sense you can't argue. How come you haven't responded to my questions to you?! B/c you have no answer to them. All what you wanna know is what increases your hatred to the Arabs....Useless talking to you WHITE TRASH TRAILOR....
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37. TO DAISY
Unfortunately you are also occupying the US since it belongs to the red indians who were massacred and put into concentration camps in Arizona and some mid-west states. I think you should go you belong since this country is all from immigrants. If it wasn't you it was your ancestors.
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38. edwierd is sick with Jew hatred!
I ask you a simple question and you give me the typical answer they programmed into you.Spare me your propaganda ed.We all know that you classify "innocent jewish civilians" as double-speak for supporting violence against ANY Jew because sooner or later they will be in the IDF. Again, I ask you to denounce ALL forms of terror against any Jew anywhere. Betcha you don't have the guts to answer as usual. In the meantime smartguy,who are "those responsible should be brought to justice" ? Care to name the parties? I know who they are, but I have a suspicion that you and I are NOT on the same wave length buddy. Oh yeah, and for good measure ..be a good dhimmi and stand up here and denounce all that racial incitement the PA brainwash into your heros eddie..You see, everytime you avoid answering my questions, you look more and more like an ass.Keep it up eddieboy.We really do see through you.
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39. ed
I ask you a simple question and you give me the typical answer they programmed into you.Spare me your propaganda ed.We all know that you classify "innocent jewish civilians" as double-speak for supporting violence against ANY Jew because sooner or later they will be in the IDF. Again, I ask you to denounce ALL forms of terror against any Jew anywhere. Betcha you don't have the guts to answer as usual. In the meantime smartguy,who are "those responsible should be brought to justice" ? Care to name the parties? I know who they are, but I have a suspicion that you and I are NOT on the same wave length buddy. Oh yeah, and for good measure ..be a good dhimmi and stand up here and denounce all that racial incitement the PA brainwash into your heros eddie..You see, everytime you avoid answering my questions, you look more and more like an ass.Keep it up eddieboy.We really do see through you.
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40. Mowaten
Clarify for me your statement: "you are also occupying the US since it belongs to the red indians who were massacred and put into concentration camps" What are your thoughts on how the 'red indians' were treated?
Thank you.
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41. Reply to Mowaten Araby
My last question was my reply to what you said about the checkpoints. So, no, I don't agree with you.
If you call targeting bombing civilians in malls and restaurants "resistance", then using your logic, Israel attacks on Palestinian terrorists who hide among Palestinian populations are also a form of resistance, but it is a better form, because it does not intentionally target civilians like the Palestinian terrorists do.
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42. TO A, EG
GO AND LIVE IN YOUR OWN WORLD. THE WORLD OF MYTH AND LIES LIKE THE WAY ISRAEL WAS CREATED.
ISRAEL STARTED WITH MASSACRES CONDUCTED BY THE FALASHAS WHO STARTED KILLING PALESTINIANS IN 1948. WHAT THREAT THEY CAUSED AT THAT TIME? WHO DOESN'T CARE ABOUT KILLING CIVILIANS AND BUILDING A COUNTRY ON THE BLOOD OF OTHERS DOESN'T CARE NO MATTER WHAT ABOUT THE CIVILIANS AFTER ANOTHER 57 YRS? WHAT THREAT DID THE US CITIZEN RACHEL CORRIE CAUSE THE IDF?
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43. Mowaten:please answer my question to you
Mowaten:please answer my question...
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44. REPLY TO CLIFF
indigenous peoples of North America. Native Americans had lived throughout the continent for thousands of years before Europeans began exploring the “New World” in the 15th century.
Most scientists agree that the human history of North America began when the ancient ancestors of modern Native Americans made their way across a land bridge that once spanned the Bering Sea and connected northeastern Asia to North America. Scientists believe these people first migrated to the Americas more than 10,000 years ago, before the end of the last ice age. However, some Native Americans believe their ancestors originated in the Americas, citing gaps in the archaeological record and oral accounts of their origins that have been passed down through generations.
When European explorers and settlers began to arrive in the Americas in the 15th century, Native Americans found themselves faced with a new set of challenges. Some Native Americans learned to coexist with Europeans, setting up trade networks and adopting European technologies. Many more faced generations of upheaval and disruption as Europeans, and later Americans and Canadians, took Native American lands and tried to destroy their ways of life.
The indigenous peoples of North America are known by many terms. Most tribal peoples prefer to be identified by their tribal affiliation, such as Hopi, Onondaga, Mohawk, or Cherokee. The most common collective terms are Native American or American Indian. For many years, Indian was the most prevalent term. When Christopher Columbus and other European explorers arrived in the Americas, they thought they were in Asia, which the Spanish referred to as “the Indies.” They called the native peoples indios, as in the people of the Indies, later translated to Indian.
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45. Mowaten:Maybe I didn't state my request clearly.
Thanks for the history lesson, but I guess you didn't read my question clearly.To paraphrase: Do you equate the native americans with the PA in their stuggle for a homeland in the Middle east? In other words, do you think that Israel should cease to exist and that the 'native' arabs take possession of the land?
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46. Reply to Mowaten Araby
About the start of Israel... ever heard of the Arab Revolt? Or the Arab High Command? If not I suggest you do some research. And by the way, I think you know very well that in 1948 the Arabs attacked Israel aiming to eliminate it. As for your Palestinian friends, look at what they did in Lebanon and Jordan when they had the opportunity to carry weapons, before you talk about what Israel did or did not do.
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47. to Mowaten:I'm still waiting.
I'm curious as to your answer Mowaten.
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48. Reply to Cliff
I think every society who is or have been suffered should rebelled and struggle to get back what it lost and returns its dignity. What the Red Indians went through is another type of struggle which doesn't make any difference from the Palestinians or the Irish in England and all the rebelling groups who are trying to find a place to themselves.
There is plenty of ways to solve such a crises and here I'm talking generally. Either you keep doing what your doing which means more blood sheds and which has proved throuhout the years its useless b/c we haven't moved anymore since the last 50 yrs of the crises or try to compromise and reach an acceptable outcome among all the parties which I can't see it in the near future as well. Should the Indians rebel? As far as I know they have their own camps with their own laws and officers. I mean like a small country in a bigger one but infortunately the US managed to drug them all since the highest rate of drug addiction, HIV and other terrible are widly spread in that area.
I hope I made myself clear and answered my question to you.
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49. Reply to A, EG
Mr. A:
I do know about the Arab revolt but what this has to do with our conversation. Are you trying to show me we've the one who is attacking the Jews since 1936? Secondly, the Isreali state was established in 1948 and when the Arabs attacks they were try to eliminate any possiblity for its establishment but after they failed they turned into getting rid of Israel as you said or "Throwing the Jews into the sea" the most common phrase.
I'm not here to show the angelic side of the Palestinians and the Jews and don't think I like the Palestinians as much as my writings are showing. As a Lebanese I've seen what the Palestinians did in Beirut and I've seen the Israelis too. No one was better but at the end the Palestinians are Arabs and we gave them space in Lebanon to defend their country and try to get it back but they over did it with there acts took us to the 1982 events.
I'm trying here to be more realistic and believe me I'm not coming through my hatred to the Jews but I don't like when someone ignore the facts and keep looking at one side of the story without an extra effort to dig on the other side. Mr. A, hatred brings hatred and open discussions will be the only way to take us out of this problem. I assure you I can stay and I'm sure you will stay arguing back and forth forever. If you can see that in the past 3 days we couldn't agree on anything when us who are not related to the crisis as much as the Palestinians and the Jews. How about them?
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50. my respectful reply to mowaten
Thank you Mowaten,
Here the debate gets rather complicated.I agree totally with you on your statement " suffered should rebelled and struggle to get back what it lost and returns its dignity" but I think we differ as to 'who' is the society in the middle east that has the actual right to rebel.Notwithstanding all the oppressed societies living on arab land that are either terrorized by evil dictatorships, or the poor souls enslaved by the backward racist islamic states like Iran or saudi, that offer no chance of personal expression, and feed their population a diet of hate and despair. You talk about 'addiction'.The middle east arab countries have by far the highest rate of racist propaganda in the world.That is one disease no one mentions.We can agree that the Jews from Israel like the Native Americans, were the first inhabitants of the lands we now discuss.The Native Americans here in North and South America and the Jews in the middle east.The Jews were oppressed or kicked out of their homeland by the invading arab crusaders, which is very similar to what the europeans did to the Native Americans.So why is there a double standard? Why isn't ok for a society to rebel against an occupier(in this case the occupiers are the arabs/muslims) who supposedly 'stole' Jewish land? Like the europeans, the arabs/muslims have attempted to wipe out all traces of it's aboriginal people (the Jews) and manufacture a false history that favors their point of view.And by 'wiping' out, I mean, not only have innocent Jews been slaughtered and assimilated into islam,the occupiers have added insult to injury and have made every possible attempt to destroy ancient Jewish artifacts and sites, and have tried to discredit the Holy Bible as an historical document whenever possible.So logically, why is 'Israel' slandered by the media/islam as an occupier, when the truth is proven to be quite the opposite? You can't have it both ways.You can't lecture someone living in America occupying Native land that they should go 'home' when you yourself are considered an 'occupier' and therefore should do the same.That is the dilemma.There would be true peace in the middle east if islam would accept in equality (not dhimmi status either) their Jewish brothers? But islam refuses to do so and here we are ! At war!
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51. Reply to Mowaten Araby
I agree.
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