Far right manyaks from both sides are really cooperating in building hatered and seize any chance for peace, both of them claim to love thier countries, what a love!?

Both sides have their Fanatics and looneys. That's another thiing we have in common.............

Yup, a case of two rights making a wrong. Tee hee. The heat is gonna go higher and higher till people learn to love each other. simple like that no magic no tricks no gimmicks not even free food stamps will help just straight up "every action = reaction" all this happens in a perfect universe where no one gets something done to them that they did not do to themselves.

when this story first came out, all the violent radical right cried "conspiracy against us". they said "how could someone not in the authorities have done this with the security situation at the bus station? we were set up!" where are you people now? huh? it was your own sick puds who did it, and abused their authority in order to terrorize jews. you people are sick. the settler movement needs to stay exactly where it is, in gush katif, but unprotected by your army. let them fight the pals on their own, and lets get this stain of inhuman people out of the mainstream. you people are truly sickening.

This time they are not even saying that it's a far left provocation? Or maybe they simply know that it's not possible to defend such acts and everything they could say might be turned against themselves? And what about Miss Rivera with her usual looney speeches? Nothing so far?

Obviously, these folks have neither retained the religious teaching nor the military ones..In the past, and in some organized and responsible armies, this would have been equivalent to propagating false news...I wonder what the military ( and civilian ) criminal code calls for as sanctions....

A lot of them have gone to the Gush , to block roads and scream etc. You'll see them on TV tonight when they start claiming police brutality. The Americans and others are having the night off as their main audience is the other right wingers ! Maybe we will see some sensible debates online this evening

Britain is openly blaming the USA for the terrorirists acts, well to be more precise blaming their association with the USA for the terrorirists acts/ Are americans crying Anti- american?? No,,but,,, when the Brits and US blamed JEWS/ ISRAEL for the reason the arabs hate us the jews went ballisitic whining, "Anti- semitic "blah blah blah.

we are watching the birth of new generation of terrorists , edward don't worry the right wing posters they are just thinking now what to say ... they didn't count for such report but soon you will read from them here ... may be they will say that these tow payed by Hamas to do this ... or they will say that they are right wingers antisimicts or nazis or fake Jews , they will find what to say as usual but what's sure is that they will never say sorry

Jews "whine", and Americans "cry". Says something about where you're coming from, no name. Anyway, the difference is that: 1) the phemonenon is new in England, is probably not widespread, and is not one that's existed for a long time to any degree more than it exists in America itself. 2) England is considered one of America's truest friends, and the voices of blame are not considered by Americans to typify the voice of Britain (no American I know thinks the Guardian or BBC typifies Britain). Israel has no true friends in Europe, and therefore there's little good that can offset the constant vilification. Lastly, let's define terms. Maybe your definition of "anti-semitism" is different, but most who use it in this context refer to those who are expecting Israel to hold by a standard that they neither expect the Palestinians to hold to, nor anybody else for that matter. When Israel fails to abide by the standard they set (usually it's whatever standard most throws into contrast what they think Israel should be vs. what it is, because in the end it's not the standard that's important but trashing Israel that's important), it is uniquely blamed. If Palestinians are guilty of the same crime, it's considered "understandable" or "natural". ANY standard that Israel complies with will ever be good enough for anti-semites. They'll just move the goal post, and keep up with their rants.

Look at their smiling faces. They are so ugly and full of hatred to any body who does not sghare their thinking. Like Hamas terrorists they should be locked in jail for life.

Can you say "Shabak”! This is another attempt by the Government to draw our attention away from the real issues. We are suppose to be a democratic country and Sharon has turned us into a "Stalin style government" that does what it likes against the will of the people, banning the color orange, confiscation and intimating lawful bus drivers & jailing children with out any charges for an extreme length of time. Any person with at least half a brain knows that Arabs will not be satisfied with just Aza. They want the whole Israel, including Hebron, Yehudah, & Shmon, Negev, Jordan Valley, Galil, Golan, East Jerusalem, West Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, and they will continue to strike at us until one of us are destroyed. I don’t understand why we are running out of Aza, with our tail between our legs, without any type of peace commitment from the Arabs. All we have to do is look at the past and present history to know that the will never make peace with Israel. We see from pre 1948 before the state of Israel we were attacked and killed. We see from pre 1967 when they controlled Aza and Yehudah & Shamron, we were attacked and killed. We see it from when we left Lebanon with our tails between our legs, we were attacked and killed. We see from the failed Oslo I experiment, when we retreated in the name of peace, we were we were attacked and killed. We see from we retreated from Hebron, we were attacked and killed. We see when we are committed to leave Aza in a few weeks we were still attacked and killed. This is not the country that I moved to 20 years ago. This is not the government and Prime Minster that we have elected a few years ago. This is not General Sharon, the Lion who has lead us to victory. I demand that our "LION" comes back and do the right thing and not the pussy cat that we have now.

If you go back and look, you'll see that there are PLENTY of people who oppose disengagement who were disgusted by what was done at the bus station, with the nails on the roads, etc. The vast majority. I was one of those who were disgusted by it, and I deeply resent the tone of your posts, and similar ones along the lines, "they are greedy criminals, let's abandon them, they have extremists, we have extremists, we're so sick of them". How can you credibly compare terrorists who purposefully kill non-combatants and people who don't share your opinion, who at the worst are guilty of living on land that once our government considered "disputed"? What makes you so sure that you're the "mainstream"? As far as I've been able to tell from surveys, the Israeli opinions split right down the middle on about every issue (50/50), this issue included. So, it's not surpising that people like me are disgusted by the kind of blanket blame you and others on this list are casting upon those of us who oppose disengagement. Proponents of it (Ynet included, apparently) are not the only people with a cogent point of view. There are plenty of level-headed people, yes religious Jews, too, who have views far, far more nuanced than you give us credit for. The pullout in its current form is wrongheaded. First, does pulling out of Gaza bring peace? Does it save lives? The Palestinians have already made it clear that they are neither willing to risk internal conflict by confronting the "extremists" amongst them to benefit a peace with Israel, so what do you prove by confronting Israel's extremists? Palestinians are not willing to take responsibility for founding their state and removing the "refugee" status from themselves in Gaza so that the PA can prove they can run a state that doesn't threaten Israel's security. Why? They'd rather cut off their nose if it spites Israel's face. I think this is completely to be expected. The extremists are not as "extreme" in the eyes of Palestinians as you seem to think, and they have won proportional representation within the PA that Israel's "extreme" parties never had in their strongest days following Begin's election. These Palextremist groups have taken an interest in casting the pull out from Gaza as proof that military force, not diplomacy, brings results, and the PA is doing NOTHING to rebut that view. That belief will result in more military assualts on Israel, not less. Second, does a pullout advance ANY diplomatic position that Israel has taken? The int'l players are not going to force the PA to behave in a responsible way. Hello, they're talking to Hamas! They think there's such thing as "good terrorism". There will be no guarantor ensuring Israel's security by forcing the establishment of a single enforcement agency (army) under control of a single government with state-type responsibilities and obligations, which was the entire underlying structure of the Oslo Agreement and the phased handover of Area A, Area B and Area C. Rather, the evidence points to the likelihood that after the withdrawal, pressure will increase to make other withdrawals for no peace in return or reform in the PA, until every last jot and tittle of the PA's demands are met, and with Israel's ability, and will, to defend itself dwindles. Abbas will feign weakness 24/7 and won't lift a finger to convince Israelis that Pals want to live side by side in peace. Even the fence is called "apartheid wall" and "land grab", and the like - every step we take to defend ourselves in "defensible borders" is delegitimized world wide, so why would we expect a pullout from Gaza will achieve anything diplomatically, just because nothing else has?

Moreover, other than vague "seems right" statements from the US President and Congress about the fairness of Israel keeping large settlement blocks (5% of the WB), especially if it's in exchange for lands inside Israel, no other country has gone on record of supporting this idea (except Israel). Why SHOULD the Palestinians offer anything in return for Israeli concessions when the world governments support them without concessions? The UNSCR 242 resolution referring to "secure borders" for Israel has been completely re-interpreted during the last 30 years to mean a complete withdrawal from the WB, that "security" is preconditional on the complete withdrawal (see Saudi Proposal) and that nobody, not even Israel, is challenging that by insisting at the very least of keeping the northern Gaza Jewish areas intact (these are contiguous to Israel near Netiv Haasarah, and do not break the contiguity of Arab settlements to the south). Third, Ynet posts indicate that the fissure caused by this withdrawal without a referendum will take a long time to heal. Just listen to the way you guys speak, as if Gaza and the West Bank and the Jews who live there are filth. For all the disagreement, it's been the exception that a "rightist" has deligitimized Israeli leftists. This will not be forgotten easily, Eli, not by me anyway. Although I'm against the pullout, I support it for several reasons. First, it's obvious to me that the Jews of Israel are too divided to support the continuation of our communities there. More important than land is unity, though it's hard to see how that will happen as you, Eli, and those like you, dance on our graves. Second, all that I discussed above can be achieved by pulling out the Jewish settlements and keeping the Army in place in those settlements until the Palestinians prove they are able to maintain peace and stop attacks over the Green Line. We should never ever lose sight of the fact that the ONLY justification for a pullout is to save lives. I expect the pullout to cost lives, and that's why I oppose it.

You asked "where are you people now? " I'll tell ya. We are living life working for peace while 'sick 'puds'(whatever that means) like you are seething and wasting time complaining about the earth not being flat! In fact, all you do is try to stoke hatred against Jews.Doesn't matter who, what or how many, but if one Jew looks bad, ed-wierd will condem the lot of 'em.Talk about 'inhuman' eddieboy.

These are great boys, part of the new generation of Jews in Israel that suffer no self-delusions. In contrast to Arab murderers who are considered 'fighting for peace' by some of these extreme left-wing writers here, these beautiful Jews are simply disrupting the routine. Be honest, this was a non-violent form of protest. In any case, it's not possible to have a productive society where these things are being done all the time. What's the answer? Honest elections. The moment that there will be elections, all these things will stop immediately. If the Jews of Israel vote to expel Jews from Gaza, I guarantee the Jews there, including these boys, will leave with absolutely no protest. They protest davka because there is no democracy.