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Hamas takes part of northern Gaza     By Ali Waked
1. Arab unity...
Self Explanatory..... Same causes produce always same effects....
Hiram ,   Tel-Aviv   (07.19.05)
2. civil war anyone?
we can only hope that the PA will ask israel for help. that way maybe there can be an all out conflict with hamas. who knows, maybe israel and the palestinians will finally cooperate on something? forgive my dreaming, time to get back to reality now.
mike ,   usa   (07.19.05)
3. Advice to Israel
The Palestinians are at a crossroad, it is critical that Israel laissez faire and not interfere. There is no room for Israeli security tatics here. Let this unfold and be resolved as a Palestinian internal affair.
Farouk ,   Jerusalem   (07.19.05)
4. weaklinks
It cannot be a coincidence that this infighting has become this serious after the big election wins Hamas has enjoyed recently. It is quite possible that the PA (specifically Fatah) is instigating the fighting in the hope it will shift the Palestinian public opinion in Fatah's favour. After all, Israel is continuing to kill Palestinian activists and civilians every day, so why the hec should the Palestinians be expected to seize fire and wait to be killed!!!!
Nabulsi   (07.19.05)
5. to 1
it is not as you think. it this abbas, the most loyla person to israel who wanted this to happen, but he will not stay for a long time cause he proved to be an idiot
. ,   .   (07.19.05)
6. to #5
you have to be palestinian. you guys are the only ones who think that if abbas does ANYTHING that is line with oslo, the road map, the americans, or the europeans, that he is "loyal to israel" or a "collaborator." do you really think that if abbas does something he needs to do, which HAPPENS to be what israel has said, that he is being LOYAL to israel?? do you realize how absolutely dumb you sound when you say those things?
mike ,   usa   (07.19.05)
7. to dumb 6
who told you that we want this oslo?? most of the palestinians dont care about such studpid politics...
. ,   .   (07.19.05)
8. no name 7
ok, so you don't want anything that resembles a state. not to mention anything that resembles peace. if murdering jews is all you really care about, then most everyone (outside of immoral radical islam) is gladly loyal to israel, thank you very much.
mike ,   usa   (07.19.05)
9. Mike USA
"Immoral Radical Isalm" a bit of respect is needed so you can be heard.
Mohamed ,   Gaza   (07.19.05)
10. 9 what?
are you talking about islam historically, or as it expresses itself today? i respect the achievements of islam in the past, but any religion/movement that embraces suicide bombs as the main way to fight is immoral. at least the muslims of the past were honorable enough to fight face to face with the enemy, not like the cowards of today.
mike ,   usa   (07.19.05)
11. hamas must know
unless terror finishes they can not reach ındependent territories anymore ...they must stop suicide attacks over ınnocent people . God does not want them .pray for peace and no killing civilians anymore . ı want from clever palestinians to act against to hamas because hamas tell lies and is a big threat for innocent people the dirty leaders of those terror orgaznization are devil disdain hamas jehad be for peace not for them
mihael ,   istanbul   (07.20.05)
12. to 8
we dont want to kill anybody..we want to live normally in peace..leave us alone..you are unwanted guest..we want palestine back..go away..you are unwanted here as you were in europe 50 years ago
. ,   .   (07.20.05)
13. to 11
funny you... who cares about you and your opinions
. ,   .   (07.20.05)
14. 12 - and that's my point
you say you are against oslo, etc. if palestinians are not interested in politics and want their land back, as you say, what are they for (other than killin jews)? last i checked, you guys are getting your land back. or are you going to still complain about everything after that? anyway, i'm not jewish, just a stupid american.
mike ,   usa   (07.20.05)
15. to mike
you keep talking about face to face fighting. I have a feeling that you know nothing about that. Tell the Israelis to get down from their tanks and APC 's and jets and fight face to face with no vests and 60 rounds of ammo. do not be an idiot be fair when you judge people instead of just looking at things from one side. the palestinians have a legit cause backed by most of the world with UN resolutions giving them the right to their land. Israel is the only country that gets away with murder. Because they are a part of the good evil doers of the world.
john ,   usa   (07.20.05)
16. john
it seems you are more interested in defending terror than encouraging a solution. for those bent on terror, the more planes, tanks, and missles the better. however, if they are willing to sit down and negotiate, who wouldn't be against that? despite all of the recycled arguments why arafat rejected israel's proposals, in the end violence is the game of the day, and if they are dumb enough to choose thaqt course, then bring on the tanks and bombs. both want all of the land, both can't have it. the palestinians are weaker and, therefore, should negotiate. justifying a legitimate right by suicide killing, do you feel good about that?
mike ,   usa   (07.20.05)
17. To John
You said: "Tell the Israelis to get down from their tanks and APC 's and jets and fight face to face with no vests and 60 rounds of ammo. do not be an idiot be fair when you judge people instead of just looking at things from one side." Well they did in 1948 and guess who won? The outnumbered tiny army of holocaust survivors.... and what did the five Arab armies do? Run home. So don't try that bull cos it wont wash. Look at your own army and see how rubbish they fight; vietnam, now Iraq - how embarrassing!! So whose the idiot??
Gil ,   London   (07.21.05)
18. To Mike, John and other debaters
Debating over the internet on a forum is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded.
David ,   New York   (07.21.05)
19. david ny - not original
yeah, everyone saw the gwb special olympics poster during the last campaign. nice try, but pretty retarded.
mike ,   usa   (07.21.05)
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