Fantastic! Irresponsible? No more so than Sharon's appeasement/retreat plan. Impractical? No more so than expecting peace to reign once there is a "Palestinian State." Dangerous? Indeed, but Israelis are used to that. Courageous? Most definitely! But courage is no stranger to settlers who are the true backbone of Israel. More power to them. I'm ready to send a donation.

On this article and other articles - tried a number of times. CENSORED. That should make the Jew-haters happy.

I’m glad to see that you at least admit that the Arabs punished and dispossessed the Jews from their countries simply because they are Jews. That's a start, albeit a weak one since you seem to think that there were only a few who committed these atrocities and make no mention of forcing them by means of UN Resolutions to compensate the Jews as the UN has done to Israel. You also still don’t seem to understand that the majority of the Arabs that now claim to be so-called “Palestinians” are nothing more than Arabs who migrated to these lands after Israel was declared a sovereign country. Based on your concept of right and wrong in this situation, should Western Canada suddenly declare itself sovereign from Eastern Canada (I’m sure you’ve read about that) I could then move a few hundred miles up to Western Canada, bring my brood with me and declare that a portion of that territory belongs to the Dutch Americans since my family has been in America since before the recognized countries known as Canada and United States of America existed (a fact I can prove with legal documentation). And you would be alright with that?

If the Israeli's were dealing with any other nation of people, what you consider the “obvious conclusion” might be correct. The problem here is that they are dealing with a nation of people (Arabs) who have already made it clear that this so-called disengagement is nothing more to them than the first step down the road to eliminating Israel altogether. I have sincere concerns about anyone who honestly believes that taking the land God promised the Jews away from them only to give it to their sworn enemies will bring peace. This is a false peace that is guaranteed to bring the people of Israel more pain, suffering and loss and that truly breaks my heart.

You de-humanize all arabs because of the actions of individuals, and yes there are probably many, but labelling all arabs as interested only in the destruction of IsraeI does nothing to promote peace. I guess it makes it easier on your conscience when you so fervently advocate hatred to declare all arabs sub-human, slave traders did exactly the same. Congratulations, you demonstrate yourself as a fine example of human decency. I make no attempt to minimize the attrocities committed against Jewish people not only in the Middle East but through out the world. In regards to compensation, all victims of racist policies of any nation who have been forced to give up property and livelyhood due to their ethnic background are entitled to compensation, I've never indicated otherwise, but the rights to compensation that is justly due to Jewish victims do not render illegitimate the claims of innocent arab victims of the creation of Israel. You seem to believe that no arabs were innocent victims of the creation of Israel, but it would appear that your belief is based not on the facts but on an irrational and xenophobic hatred of anything arab. There are arabs who can provide documented evidence of their living on land that is now contained within the state of Israel just as you can prove your family lived in America before the nation states were declared, the difference being that the arabs in question can point to the specific piece of land and prove they once lived there and prove that it was forcibly taken from them. As for your little fairy-tale about Western Canada declaring independence, Canada accepts immigrants of all races and religions, and a sovereign western Canada is likely to be the same since we rely on immigration to maintain positive population growth We need such positive growth to support our aging population. I'm a minority in my own country, but I do not and need not fear such a situation since Canada has matured into a fine example of multiculturalism, eliminating the need for a homogeneous population. Many fine peope including both arabs and jews continue to live here and enjoy the society that we are creating. It is far from perfect but the ideal on which modern Canadian society is founded is sound and just; the basic principal being the equality of all Canadian people regardless of where there ancestors came from and regardless of what crimes their ancestors committed. It was rather convenient of you to ignore the specific examples of discrimination by Israel that I provided, but I expect nothing less from you as you are obviously more interested in fomenting more hatred instead of engaging in intelligent discussion.

This new state has little chance for success: Israel will brutally crush it, and imprison all sympathizers without legal recourse. Were these Moslems, of course, Sharon would be doing phopo ops with the new leaders.

Refusing to accept a false peace agreement that history has proven the other side will never live up to is not the same as fomenting hatred. When you attempt to appease evil by giving them a little of what they demand; you invite them to take even more. Hamas tells U.S.: "Holy city is ours" http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43975 Who owned this land when the Jews arrived? Great Grand-mother Sylvia Mandelbaum, the oldest resident in Neve Dekalim, Gaza says “When I arrived, the whole thing was nothing but sand; sand up to my door steps. No civilization.” Intelligent discussion is putting the facts on the table regardless of whether or not the other party likes what you’re saying. If you want someone to line up as another UN owned lemming and agree with you on the issue of handing any portion of Israel over to the Arabs who already own 99% of the Middle East then you’ll need to find an Arab friend, because I will never agree to it no matter what garbage you put out there about Israel or the U.S.

Hamas tells U.S.: "Holy city is ours" and you say. "taking the land God promised the Jews" You're all sick, both sides of this dispute. It almost makes me think you deserve the hatred and violence you throw at each other. A big part of the problem is that neither the Arab nor the Israeli extremists can leave God out of it. You claim not to foment hatred and yet you say and I quote: #1, "The goal for the Arabs isn’t finding a peaceful solution; their goal is to destroy Israel. " I happen to know some arabs who do want to find a peaceful solution. A negotiated solution, not a solution that is dictated with ultimatums attached. And yet according to you no Arabs want a peaceful solution, that my friend is the promotion of hatred based on racism. Similar to the way that the English promoted hatred of natives by calling them all savages. It made their crimes more palatable. Do you even know a single arab? #2, "Most of those choosing to live in the camps" Do you truly believe that these people choose to live in the poverty of refugee camps? How about those born in the refugee camps, did they choose where they were born? Since they were born there are they not natural citizens of the territory? The land is claimed by Israel, I guess that makes the arabs born there Israeli citizens and since Israel does not discriminate against arabs and gives automatic citizenship to Jews born on those same lands. Most of those who live in the refugee camps who are given the opportunity for better lives elsewhere take it. Of course to you belittling their plight and suggesting they are only there by choice to make things more difficult for Israel is not fomenting hatred. And denying Arabs the full rights of citizenship because they do not have the "correct" ethnic background is not discrimination. That's logical. Please note the extreme sarcasm. #3, "Furthermore, the only remnants of Arabs that resided on it when the Jews, who were evicted from every other Arab country, began to return hadn't done anything with it in all the time they were there except destroy what the Israelites had built there before they violently took it from them." The arabs of which you speak must have very long life spans since they are apparently the ones who violently stole the land from the Israelites. But I suppose blaming the decendants of the arabs who did displace the Israelites is not fomenting hatred, like they are somehow responsible for the actions of their ancestors. In the same statement you hold the Palestinian refugees responsible for the actions of the Arab governments against the jewish people. Why? Is it because all Arabs are responsible for the crimes committed by Arab governments over which they have no control. Do you hold those born after those crimes were committed responsible too based on the fact they are Arabs? You certainly appear to, but then you don't promote hatred of arabs. You only demonize them for the crimes of their ancestors. According to you the arabs hadn't done anything with the land. That explains why Israel has to bulldoze olive groves farmed by the same Arab family for generations in the constuction of the separation wall. One has to wonder why the partition even considered the arabs and called for the creation of Palestine since apparently no arabs lived there and the ones that did were guilty of the crimes of their ancestors. History clearly shows that Jewish people made up 33 percent of the pre-partition population of the land in question, history also records, from the several credible sources that I have checked, that those 33 percent of people owned 7 percent of the land. But I suppose you'll just continue to deny the established facts and continue to deny that you hate and promote the hatred of Arabs. Your own words tell an entirely different story and that you wrote those same words is an established fact.

It is not at all clear that the so-called "Palestinian Authority" is capable of self-government, enough to have a clear and coherent policy voice, be it the phased destruction plan or any other. Some or perhaps as common sense suggests most as you say, may well view this as a first step toward and their ultimate national goal of driving us into the sea. (H”V) By the same token even if that faction is exceedingly loud and violent, they may be no more effective in getting Abbas to change course than the settlers were with Mr. Sharon. They have historically demonstrated, that they cannot be relied upon to neither speak with one voice for even a very short period of time, nor do they apparently have the national integrity to even stick by their word when it is finally put out on any given matter. There are well known precedents for this sort of negotiating strategic ploy both in the Koran and in the behavior of Arafat, whose words in many places, seemed simply expedient and often nothing more, if not duplicitous As for it making Israel any safer whereas, even good bookies can't guarantee their odds, likewise, I see no reason to assume that suffering and loss of life will diminish much if at all. The only possible long-term advantage, which I might imagine, would be to free up economic and military resources to expended or deployed more efficiently elsewhere. As for Hash-m’s giving Gaza, none of us dare imagine that we are in a position to comprehend his Hesbon as to when, how and under what circumstances. Again unless one thinks that Mao was right and justice is to only be found at the end of a barrel of a gun. I choose to believe in the ultimate efficacy of prayer, in those domains of life where neither my allies nor I have what we ordinarily take to be decision-making capabilities.

I guess from my perspective I have to agree, prayer is the only answer that promises hope for Israel at this point.