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British Muslim group declares new jihad
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 19.10.05, 18:15
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31. #29
Yakir ,   Switzerland   (10.21.05)
you have my respect abdul, this is the proof that there are still alot muslims who definitely think diffrent than the radicals...
32. "This is what we get for allowing them to live among us.
Rosemarie Mann ,   Southampton, England   (10.22.05)
Religious hatred is caused by religion. (Matthew Parris). All religions are man-made, therefore suspect. (Jonathon Miller).
33. "This is what we get for allowing them to live among us.
Rosemarie Mann ,   Southampton, England   (10.22.05)
Religious hatred is caused by religion. (Matthew Parris). All religions are man-made, therefore suspect. (Jonathon Miller).
34. 'Abdul' is disgusted with Islam.
Rosemarie Mann ,   Southampton, England   (10.22.05)
'Abdul' in New York has written that he is disgusted with his religion for inspiring terrorists : is he going to leave the religion, or will he be in mortal danger if he tries? It would be interesting to hear what he thinks will happen to him if he tries to leave what is in effect a repressive cult.
35. Abdul and Islam...
Rosemarie Mann. ,   Southampton, England   (10.22.05)
So much human time and effort has been wasted on religion-based conflicts. It is clear that islam is being aggressively promoted across the world, and being reinforced by fear. When did anyone hear of a Christian terrorist ? The policy of Christians to 'turn the other cheek ' just means weakness to terrorists, and this weakness is then exploited. This, plus our liberal aspirations to freedom of speech in the west , political correctness, positive protection of minority 'communities' , etc., just results in fear for the indigenous people of any country where islam is being promoted. There seems to be a particular underlying agenda to promote islam everywhere, and their 'holy' book seems to be behind this....there are many quotes available that clearly show what the general instructions are. We should be on our guard. Something extremely serious is happening here. To think that the whole movement is based on one human's supposed insight into a non-existent deity seems to me to be utterly ridiclous, and has caused untold harm all across the world. That's my honest opinion.
36. "...if they don't do anything about it...."
Rosemarie Mann ,   Southampton, England   (10.22.05)
The trouble with islam is that dissidence is not allowed : if anyone inside the religion criticises another muslim , then they are automatically on the side of the 'enemy'. That's the way it works. They cannot speak out, for fear of severe punishments. They HAVE to go along with it....there are probably enough passages in the koran to back this up....I have said for years that if the muslims want to be respected, they have to take action to order the terrorists to STOP what they are doing. But you do NOT hear their leaders openly, publicly ordering all violence to stop. You do NOT hear them saying, if you have a grievance, attend to it peacefully. So as long as we in the west do NOT see and hear their leaders condemning it, what are we to think? I don't really care what silly beliefs people hold IN PRIVATE : the trouble comes when they act them out in public, in other people's countries. In their view, the whole world is up for grabs, that all religions other than islam are false. I say all religions are false, anyway. Some (e.g., buddhism) have some very nice moral teachings on kindness, etc. Buddhism for example seems to understand human psychology better than most other religions, plus a point in their favour is that they don't regard Buddha as a 'god'. But the c=vast majority of religions are in my view false, as they still believe in non-existent deities, which in my view is childish and ridiculous. All religions are man-made, therefore suspect. (Jonathon Miller).
37. Ignorance
Rehan ,   USA   (12.18.05)
You people are pathetic. Go out and get some lives. You don't know the truth about Islam so please do not criticize it, you are merely proving your extreme ignorance and shallow mindedness. Come on, seriously. You all sound like a bunch of kids who read a bunch of bullshit and judge a RELIGION based on an article. I want you all to re-read the posts you wrote and think about your message. Pathetic, indeed. Peace be with you all.
38. #37
TexasInfidel ,   Austin, Texas, USA   (01.10.06)
Rehan, If you think that you are capable of sweet talking and singing and dancing Islam into our infidel hearts and minds, you are sadly mistaken and a very poor judge of character. You Islamics are outnumbered here in America and Europe and will ultimately be defeated in your goals of world domination.
39. Rehan
(01.10.06)
Assume the article states the exact TRUTH what thes muslims say and feel about "infidels" - they are doing this in the name of YOUR RELIGION. Are you telling we inidels to just disregard these threats? That these muslims are just kidding around and we should just forget about it? “We should, all of us, glorify the terrorism. And we should incite religious hatred. Don’t worry… it’s not illegal for us to say that mujahadin (jihad fighters) on 9/11, were the magnificent 19, and it’s not illegal for us to say that Mohammad Sidique Khan (the suicide bomber who blew himself up in London) and the four on 7/7 (London attacks), that they were the fantastic four – now we can say so without any worry.” ... “We will always glorify killing the kuffar in the name of Allah. To raid the kuffar in the name of Allah. Even if some women and children are caught in the raid by accident. They are part of them, it is not your fault,” Now tell us Rehan ... is the above statement something we should just blow off and not look to you who believe in Islam to reel these maddog in and put them in their place? Are you saying we should just let it go and wait to get attacked again? What kind of freaking idiot are you?
40. ISLAM & TERRORISM
Jennifer King ,   LONDON   (01.10.06)
Muhammad made his real intentions very clear early in his career as the prophet of Islam – to conquer and plunder the world in the name of Islam. He began preaching in the year 610, and these events took place in the next two years, the beginning of Islam and the first Muslim community. THE FIRST PLEDGE AT AL-‘AQABA April 621 A.D. “The following year, twelve of the Ansar [Helpers] came on the pilgrimage and met the Messenger, this being the first Aqabah. They took an oath of allegiance to him according to the terms of the ‘Pledge of Women.’ This was before The DUTY OF WAR was laid upon them.” Ishaq:198,199/TabariVI:125,127
41. Salim
Michelle   (01.10.06)
"It is very sad to see the amount of misconception non muslims have against islam." That's all you have to say about this? That non muslims just don't understand islam? "I insist every non muslim friend go and talk to muslim people or visit local mosque, about their faith rather than sticking on the internet and getting total wrong impressions." I insist that you as a moderate muslim start visiting mosques who preach this crap and finally put an end to this nonsense. YOU ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO HELP YOUR CAUSE. It's not enough to just say Islam is misunderstood...you have to do your part and rid your religion of these fanatics.
42. Democracy? Freedom?
Raj ,   India   (02.02.06)
The West seems to think democracy will rid the world (at least the middle east) of Islamic terrorism. Will it, really? Is not Bangladesh becoming increasingly radicalised? Is Hamas not elected? Is not Ahmedinejad elected? Is MIM of western Pakistan not elected? Wake up, West! We in India have lived for centuries with Islamic terrorism, and have seen its many forms. The only language they know is WAR (Jihad), and unfortunately they have to be spoken in that language to be understood. Sadly. If you don't believe it, debate over it, until the muslim population in your country reaches 50% - when all your civilisation will be wiped off your country - and it will become another feather in the Islamic imperialist cap extending from Mediterranean to Indonesia. And in the meanwhile, whine over Russia's human rights records (instead of helping them in Chechnya), China's freedom records (and criticise their handling of Xinxiang muslims' rights), India's corrupt government (instead of understanding their problems & sympathising). Also, have friends like Pakistan. There is an ancient indian proverb - "Vinash kaale Viparit Buddhi" meaning, "When the end comes near, the intelligence works the wrong way". God Save the World!
43. Heres their sign
USA   (05.05.06)
And the ragheads wonder why they are so hated by us red blooded Americans.
44. Lets hate everyone
USA   (05.05.06)
the reason they do what they do is simple....they hate the fact that everyone esle has names that are easy to spell, that everyone elses woman is beautiful (ever seen a hot Islamic woman?) I havent. And they are mad jelous that they have to learn to drive on camles versus nice cars such as Fords, Chevys, Dodges. But lastly, the Islamic snakes all ought to be caputred and sent home to the desert where they belong, they dont belong here in the USA or the UK..
45. re: Jihad =personal struggle, islam=religion of peace
Roboto ,   US   (05.06.06)
Oh yes, a "religion pf peace". And the idiots who say that have never read the Koran!! In the US, it is the p.c. thing to say. When we see mushroom clouds over NYC, LA, Houston, Chicago, Washington Seattle and Miami, then maybe we will realize that Islam offers two options to us "infidels": become a muslim or die!
46. Moslim Oblagations
Daniel MacDonald ,   Toronto   (05.07.06)
Every Moslim who is not an Islamic terrorist has an obligation to join forces and defeat those who now controll the religion. It is impossable for us to know who among you we can trust unless you visibly earn our respect.
47. To Rosemarie Mann, RE: Xtian Terrorists
Ian ,   Canada   (05.17.06)
No Christian terrorists? Ever hear of the Crusades? Christian soldiers cut a bloody swath through Musilms, Jews, and anyone else who happened to cross their path. What about endless pogroms agaist the Jews? Many of which happen to coincide with "Good Friday?" Spanish Inquisition, anyone? The point is, all of the world's religions are succeptable to extremism and the growth of zealots. When the majority stays quiet while these things transpire, the problems only grow worse. Muslim, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, whatever...we all have to be viligilant for trouble in our own midst, and speak out against acts of violence.
48. RE:USA 43&44
Ian ,   Canada   (05.17.06)
With assinine and bigoted words like that, you come off as no better than those in this article. May I remind you that unless you're an aboriginal, you're an immigrant in North America as well, and your ancestors perpetrated just as horrific acts against the native peoples. Grow some bloody sense and try reading a history book sometime.
49. England incoraging Islamic terror
chaim ,   phoenix   (05.23.06)
If anything recent history teaches us is, since the Ottoman Empire was dismembered after they allied themselves with Germany during WW 1 was the creation by England and France of newly created Moslem countries and their selfish reasoning which was to obtain a monopoly of their resources, What the British failed to realize was, the continual strife amongst these western created countries, just who is, or which leader, should be the primary dominant leader of the newly created Islamic homogony. The Moslem community living in the British mandated territories were inspired by the European century’s old hatred of the Jews, and were encouraged by England, their imposed upon authorities, to initiate a conflict between the Moslem communities and the Jewish community that purchased the land from the previous Ottoman government. Their reasoning behind such diabolical plan was to relieve themselves of the unrest emanating from the newly conquered Islamic population, so what better way to occupy and re-direct their unhappiness with their oppressive, imposed upon, colonial authority, was to create strife by and between the different ideological communities. When the worlds indifference to the holocaust and unwarranted slaughter of millions of Jews just because of their accident of being born to Jewish parents, it inspired the survivors and countless other Jews to create a entity giving them the ability to be self governing and to defend themselves, it again was the British who in conspiracy with the Moslem leadership tried to prevent the Jews the ability to organize themselves, obtain the necessary weapons to facilitate a proper defense against the continual onslaught of the local and imported Islamic communities. It was the British who actually made every attempt to please the Moslems who were allied with the German enemy to deny the survivors of the German Concentration Camps to gain entry into Israel and re-interned them into newly created guarded Concentration Camps in Cyprus which the British also ruled by the mandate. It was the British who when finally forced out of their mandate, transferred to the Moslems their weapons, their fortified positions, and allowed their seasoned professional Officers, to train, lead and assist the Moslems in their effort of assisting in the continuation of the Nazi ideology of a final solution to the Jewish question. This condemnation of the British conduct is important to understand just who and what is the driving force behind the Islamic utilizing England as a base for their murderous schemes against the Jews, and why not, when the Mayor of London, the capitol of England is allowed to spout his personal animosity against his Jewish constituents, when the leaders of higher learning are permitted to initiate and disseminate their un-equivocal biased hatred against Jews instead of following their mandate of their position, which is, to give their student body the incentive to explore all ideas and decide for themselves just what is right or not. England having encouraged and openly supported the Islamic believers to immigrate to England, deserves all what the Islamic theocracy and their fundamentalists terrorist activity inflict upon the English population.
50. backlash
richs ,   ny   (07.09.06)
more and more terror attacks and people will start to backlash. meaning we will kill muslims!
51. It is a shame this crap is published
JC ,   Singapore   (01.23.07)
I know we can't ignore the existence of such peverse individuals to incite such hatred but don't the media just love to publish it!! The media has so much to answer for by even giving airtime to such tripe because they know they can profit from outrage. I know I cannot accept the word of the media from any side bcos they base their stories on impact value over everything else and I have seen many cases of manipulation first hand. Yes it is a sad state of affairs in the world & as a non muslim I feel sorry for the peace loving muslims out there who are tared with the same brush as Al Qaida. Don't get me wrong I would be first inline to slit the throat of a rabid dog terrorist and there r many in the muslim world who would to!
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