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'Muslims persecuting Bethlehem's Christians'
Aaron Klein, World Net Daily
Published: 27.12.05, 11:16
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1. This is not true.
(12.27.05)
World Net Daily is known to be anti islam. This article is methodical distortion of truths. It just wants to show muslims as savages, which they are not. Give over!!
2. This is true!
Emily ,   Australia & Israel   (12.27.05)
Islam regard all non Muslims as infidels. Islam has a long history of persecuting Christians and Jews.
3. We all know it is a war of religion...
hiram ,   tel aviv   (12.27.05)
nothing to do with Palestinian or not....But no one wants to admit to it.... Lack of guts from international community
4. We are sick and tired
Sam ,   Alquds, Palestine   (12.27.05)
I don't want to say everything I post here over and over again, but we as Palestinian christians find it interesting that every idiot in the US thinks he knows better. Of course there will always be anonymous cowards who do not declare their names, but collaboraters with Israel should never be reliable sources of information. The number of christians in PA ministries and government agencies exceed their percentage of the population hugely. Christians feel themselves Palestinian beyond any doubt. Always were, always will be. The funny thing is those statistics the writer tries to affirm, saying that christians composed 90% of the population in Bethlehem until 1995, and that incorporating the refugee camps disturbed this balance drastically. The refugee camps were not incorporated in the municipality and the proof for that was obvious in the latest local elections when they were not allowed to vote. By the way the percentage of christians was 55% of the total population in Bethlehem in 1967!!! Houses and shops burnt? A lie cannot be bigger. Which houses and which shops? Or is it just a matter of throwing accusations? Building mosques infront of churches? Why should this bother any christian? I am christian and it does not bother me, a church is a house of god, and a mosque is another house of god, better anyway than building a whorehouse infront of the church, and in all cases it is better than destroying the churches and mosques all together which was an Israeli policy exercised by the occupation forces since 1948. Our only problem is the occupation, the wall and the closures, and if u can't get it into your heads, it's your problem. Your false sympathy is pathetic.
5. Yes all this is true!
Shafiro   (12.27.05)
As a Christian from middle-east I wish my blessing to Israel and my God help you! I wish the temple of Solmon to be rebuild were it should be right now!
6. We are sick and tired
Sam ,   Alquds, Palestine   (12.27.05)
I said this more than once, every idiot in the US thinks he/she knows better what we need. We as Palestinian christians on the other hand understand our needs and our priorities, and share a common fate with our Palestinian Muslim brothers. This article is based on no truth whatsoever. Which houses and shops were burnt? The article just throws the accusation with no proof whatsoever! This "leader" must be one of Israel's collaborators, who would not fail to put themselves under the service of the occupier and its propaganda machine. What is wrong with building mosques near churches? It is far better than building whorehouses, or even worse destroying houses of god, both mosques and churches by the Zionists since 1948 or changing them into bars! Examples here are numerous in contrast to this article which has no basis whatsoever! The funniest thing is the statistic the writer claims, saying that christians composed 90% of Bethlehem's population till 1995. Christians composed 55% of the population in 1967, you make the calculation. Just leave us out of this debate, and do not try to play on this string, it is dangerous. We are Palestinians, always were, always will be.
7. It is true#1!! You have just been used to your lies and
Jacob ,   Slovina   (12.27.05)
the lies of your appeasers. Understand crystal clear that TRUTH ALWAYS comes out even if it takes a long time. Christians have been slaughtered by Muslims forever!
8. #4. You have been brainwashed by your own..
Molly ,   Michigan   (12.27.05)
There are no collaboraters with Israel but this is what you are told. There is no secret agenda of the small population of Jews to control either you or the rest of the world. This was an evil lie to you so you could hate Jews. This was a lie told to you by your leaders so THEY COULD CONTROL YOU! You just don't get it do you? The evil which you feel and spead and the evil which hugs you was given to you by YOUR VERY OWN. You are used not by Jews but by your own. Make no mistake truth always surfaces. This is a plain and simple fact. Cream comes to the top. Shit sinks down the sinkhole of sewers. You have not only been brainwashed and used but tricked by your own leaders.
9. stop lying
truth ,   Bethlehem   (12.27.05)
This is the second article in YNET, at the occasion of xmas, on christians of Bethlehem and as in the first one it includes only lies about the actual situation in the holy city of Bethlehem. I am christian from the city and I can invite the whole world to see the truth with his bare eyes, to see what is going on there really and what the israelis are doing to our city, it is like a prison now. Muslims and christians are and were living there for centuries in a complete coexsistence. Ask all the tourists who were there during xmas and will tell you what the IDF is doing to the people there, to muslims and christians. STOP LYING and come see by yourself, if you are lucky to go through the many check points around the city and the 10 meters wall that encircle the city. All the tourists are talking about waiting hours at the check point to go in and were advised to go back by the israeli soldiers because, as they were told by the liar soldiers that they will be killed by the palestinians if they go through. This is the truth and I defy anybody to come and see the reallity, Muslims and christians are livimg in a complete harmony they have the same faith. Innocent Civilians including children and women from both comunities were killed at several occasions by IDF without any reason(it is easy to verify this). STOP lying and set BETLEHEM FREE FROM OCCUPATION.
10. #2
Michael Steiner ,   EU   (12.27.05)
Emily, and what exactly does Xianity regard all non-Xians as? And no, Islam doesn't have a long history of persecuting Xians, let alone Jews. When it comes to abusing Jews, Xianity wins hands-down.
11. Cue another Muslim-bashing orgy
Michael Steiner ,   EU   (12.27.05)
Primarily from armchair generals and crusaders in the US. *rolls eyes*
12. check this
truth ,   Bethlehem   (12.27.05)
I found this in the internet so that you will know better: http://www.btselem.org/English/Publications/Summaries/200110_Bethlehem.asp
13. World net and hones reporting
A Bethlehemite ,   Palestine   (12.27.05)
are propaganda websites. It was the PA that gurranteed that the majority of members of Bethlehem council will always be Christians and Muslims will not exceed 7 of the 15 memebers. Beit Jala and Beit Sahur, 4 out of 15. So dont fall for the BS printed. There are certain incidents occur between Christians and Muslims but to use these spins to why many Christians have fled is total BS. We're controlled by a foriegn military that care not if you are Christian or Muslim, a corrupt PA, Israeli land confiscation and the feeling of imprisonment while Gilo and Har Homa expand to the Bethlehem boundries. Settlers intimidation and harrassmant while claiming to us 'it is their land'.... You guys have no clue until you live in Bethlehem for 30 days.
14. SAM FROM ALQUDS (# 4)
ALEX ,   WEST BANK   (12.27.05)
SAM YOU SPOKE THE TRUTH WHICH IS SO HARD TO BRING OUT THESE DAYS. MAY GOD BLESS YOU.
15. They are fabricated lies
Tom ,   bieht Lehem   (12.27.05)
16. #12:
Michael Steiner   (12.27.05)
It's in vain: the wackos on here will simply decry B'Tselem as "traitors."
17. This shows again
Isac ,   Florida   (12.27.05)
This shows again the real face of the "tolerance of Muslims" vis-a-vis other religions. We all saw it before Israelis liberated the Western Wall in Jerusalem and see it again with the cruel behavior of Muslim against Christians. I know it first hand, this is the truth. Now we will hear the whining and screaming again of the Muslim Palestinians, that this may have been a conspiracy of the Mossad, or some other sick legend??!!
18. pathetic article.
(12.27.05)
it is really funny that this can be called journalism. This is called puke! How can you quote someone who does want to mention his name, and no one else, then claim you are talking about truths or facts? are you idiot? Anybody now can claim they asked an egyption man who did not want his name disclosed about the situation in Cairo, and he assured us that the Israeli forces are everywhere in Cairo!! lol ...... in addition, now 90 percent of the Indian population are Jews, according to someone else who also preferred secrecy!! give over !!!!!
19. Sometning we've known for many years
Marcel ,   Florida   (12.27.05)
We all know how many churches and synogogues the Saudi's alllow in Saudi Arabia. Just another example of real Isamiic intolerance that is without a doubt causing Bethlehems Arab Chirstians to flee enmasse for over ten years now. Those propagandists,liars and decievers who cover for islamic intolerance here are always bashing Israel in one way or another .It's in their interest to blame Israel and not their fellow jihadists who intimidate their own in Bethlehem.It's part of the war of Israel and the Jews. They and you will lose #11
20. Islam or Infidel, nothing else
Yochanan ,   Jerusalem, ISRAEL   (12.27.05)
The world knows the truth about Islam. It is in black in the Koran." All non moslems must be converted or destroyed." Yasser Arafat always said "First we destroy the Saturday people then the Sunday people". I grew up in East Jerusalem, and never had any problems with Christian Arabs. I always and still have problems with Moslem Arabs. It's in there blood to destroy all non muslams in Israel and the world. Christian Arabs are afraid to say anything because they live among the moslams and can be even killed for talking. Christians get along better with Israelis then with there moslam so called brothers. When will the world wake up to see the truth and the media print the truth? Does it have to be another world desaster like 11-9-01 to see the truth? The christian arabs want peace with Israel, its the moslams that want to destroy Jewish Israel, as they did to Christian Lebanon. DAYS ARE COMING
21. Anyone who says it is a lie is lying themselves!
Robert Goldman ,   cooper city Florida   (12.27.05)
I've seen it first hand. I've heard the calls from Christian Arab villages to the govt of Israel to keep the PA out of their villages! anyone who says this is not true is the biggest lying sack in the world. no one called B'Tselem traiors. but lets bring on current data and not stuff from the intafada which B'Tselem fails to explain that these deaths happened during a state of war and that these children were being sent out by families and teachers to die for Yasser the Egyptian
22. VATICAN IS SILENT AGAIN
MARK ,   USA   (12.27.05)
THE VATICAN IS ALLOWING BETHLEHEM BECOME A MUSLIM CITY!! Anyone agree?
23. Israel - only country in ME where Christian pop. is rising
Rob ,   UK   (12.27.05)
The fact is that Israel is the only country in the Middle East where the Christian population is actually rising. Jewish communities have been ethnically cleansed from the surrounding states and now it's the Christian's turn. The only reason more Christian leaders don't speak out is because they are intimidated. The PA's Shariah law does not protect non-Muslims. Unless Israel takes control of Bethlehem and protects it, it'll soon be Christian-free.
24. Why does the BBC not report this?
MARK ,   USA   (12.27.05)
So they can blame it all on Israel!!!!!
25. Just read the postings by Palestinian christians here!!!
Sam ,   Alquds, Palestine   (12.27.05)
Even here, christian Palestinians have shown their true allegiance, which is not mistakenly towards their right in their homeland alongside their muslim brothers with whom they shared their fates since the dawn of history. All those neo-cons from the US and their counterparts the Zionists here in Palestine are asked to answer one simple question. Why did the Zionist gangs throw the christians and the Muslims alike out of their lands and houses in what later became known as Israel? Where was that compassion and "getting along very well" Mr. Yochanan? Islam or Infidel? Is it much different to Yehudi or GOY??? Maybe you have a different version of Judaism we never heard of. Isac, just like all the other Yankees are usually told, stay in Florida, stay out of it!!!
26. it's what christians get for siding with the palestinains
(12.27.05)
they want to support an islamic-ruled homeland, they will get it. serves them right.
27. Pictures dont lie
Andrew ,   Miami, FL   (12.27.05)
I have pictures - no lie - of Palestinians stringing blody corpses up in MANGER SQUARE - dead bodies being dragged from around the street - a crowd cheering. People being shot point blank..all in manger square. freak occurance ? daily reality ? I guess we all just have to make it to bethlehem to find out
29. this is confusing
Michael ,   Austin, TX, USA   (12.27.05)
the article says one thing...the talkbacks say another. But the conclusion that I've come to is that it seems to be a moslem custom to LIE. Thus, I will believe the non-moslems and just assume that moslems lie as they've lied about so much already.
30. Tell me why Christian Population in Judea/Samaria shrinking?
David Landman ,   Natick, USA   (12.27.05)
This isnt because of low birth rate. Its because Christians are moving out. Explain this if it isnt harrassment? I know if Iran they keep a few Jews around as pawns as long as they speak out against Israel or are too afraid to say anything. Why is the Christian population ib Judea and Samaria and Bethlehem shrinking? I find it hard to believe it isnt the fault of the Muslim Palestinians. All over the middle east the number of Christians is shrinking in Arab countries. This is not a fluke. The only ones you hear about are the ones bashing Jews and the West.
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