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Iran: Europe wanted to complete Holocaust
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Published: 02.01.06, 00:58
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31. To # 11: Read some history and anthropology books please
Ezra ,   USA   (01.02.06)
The Canaanitic language evolved into Hebrew. Arabic is related to Hebrew, but it comes from a different branch of the Semitic family of languages. Moreover, the Canaanites, were not the first ethnos to settle in the Levant. Before them, they were several other pre-historic peoples that had lived in the area.
32. To Number 11:
(01.02.06)
Buddy, you forgot one important historical FACT: The Muslim religion was not even in existence until the year 711, so that throws out your entire fantasy when you factor in DATES, fool.
33. More toothless response to come.....
Selma ,   Alabama   (01.02.06)
from toothless world leaders. All the while Iran aided by Russia (US ally) grows stronger.
34. #11 Keep it up
JK   (01.02.06)
Good posting, full of genuine facts about history! Now you should expect some slander coming from the disinformation camp here, e.g. Dazy, Gabriella, Kate and likewise, unless they have read my posting and changed tactics for the time being!
35. Ahmadinejad is off his meds again
alan ,   san fran   (01.02.06)
If he schizoid, he has a good routine down. He is like an Eskimo in the Sahara who insists he sees polar bears all around himself. Do the Iranians practice psychiatry? If so, please give him some more pills or send him to LaJolla where he can ground himself permanently.
36. Iran: Europe wanted to complete Holocaust
robin ben-chaim ,   israel   (01.02.06)
Umm, maybe it just goes to show, you don't have to have brains or be accurate to be a head of a country, just have enough force behind you.
37. Dear 11
cheshire cat ,   cheshire   (01.02.06)
Dear 11 I can understand your confusion if you have read your Torah, the point has been stated that the land covenant is through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (also linked to circumcision). It is difficult to understand why G-d orders taking over, and yes, total annhilation of the Canaani; the reason is their rejection of the G-d of Israel and therefore sin (which separates you from G-d). I urge you to reread Genesis going from the truth that G-d is good and changes not - He cant suddenly change in the Qu'ran.
38. Boring
David. ,   NY   (01.02.06)
This is boring. Work on fixing the enviorment or we will all suffer worse fates, jews and arabs together.
39. To All Who Responded # 11........ Zionism not Juadism
palestine-my-love ,   palestine   (01.02.06)
i feel like their is a crime commited by # 11 , he just give us apoint of view and i belive in it .... but why all of u Attack him as if he was the Killer of Christ , the truth is usually has alot of enemies .... dont make similarity between Juadism and Zionism , becuse that humilate the both holy books (Bibel and Turah) and indicate that this books is Against the truth of Jews Ethnology ......some of u want #11 to read the hitsory and Anthropology..ok , he did im sure ...but u want him to read that kind of history which fanatic historians wrote about semetic race in the past....he know that , so ask ur self to read the history and anthropokogy from that refrences and books which # 11 get his truths from it. and im sure u hear about Zionist Protocols, explain to us some info about this seconde holy book to some of people who pretend Juadism idintity........ and ask us why the Europeans people in the history refuse and hate Jews ? why they still have supressive hate feeling's inside thier minds ? and compare it with the treatment of Islam with Jewish minorities in the history ? . as a muslim i like to marry jewsh girl , becuse i respect Juadism and Jews who respect the others and love them even they face that with hate.......and why alot of Zionists hate Karl Marx despite he is Jewish Thinker ? and how Jews deal with the Europeans people they lived among them ? if we answer this question from the non-Zionist side , we will know some new truths , may be we will refuse it compltely , but we should be sure its acceptable , rationlized opinions for the majority of the people ( Silant minds in Europe exactely) .......over all that i still get this ideas to search , not to say its the truth compltely as the Gods of Talkbacks think in this website .
40. #s 16 and 18:
Michael Steiner ,   EU   (01.02.06)
Marya (#16): "Jews never lived in peace with Arabs particularily after Islam was established"!!? In which universe would that have been??? Jews lived very peacefully with Arabs (granted, as second-class citizens but still in peace and harmony) for CENTURIES, while Xians/Europeans were busy expelling, robbing, massacring, "inquisitioning", forcibly converting, burning and otherwise persecuting us. The strife between Jews and Muslims arose at the beginning of the 20th century--first in the Mandate and then wider. As for the rest you say, I didn't read it because such an ignorant statement at the very outset put me off.
41. #18
Michael Steiner ,   EU   (01.02.06)
Hot-diggity, forgot my favorite armchair crusader. Hey buddy, I haven't converted to Islam nor have I any plans to. And even if I had, so what? Would that somehow delegitimize my opinions!? Sorry buddy, but I'm still a Steiner, ben Avraham (ben MIchael Tzvi, in fact)--and you're ben Noakh and always will be. Plus you don't have the courage to put your money where your belligerent mouth is. You'll forever sit in Florida telling Jews we should send our children to die for your sick fundamentalist Xian ideas. I don't think so.
42. we've been duped??
Israel   (01.02.06)
But I like it here better than Europe. its sunny and warm.
43. 39!
a teacher of history ,   London/NY   (01.02.06)
There is no truth in the Protocols. It was dreamt up by Jew haters. Exactly like everything you spew is bullshit and lies filled with hate. Matter of fact until you present FULL FACTS backed up by REAL FACTS/HISTORY you are as worthless as those who brainwashed you. You are the reason there is no peace. Until you wash yourself of lies and open your eyes to real truth you will have nothing nor will your children and childrens children. Richard B. Higgens PHD Middle East/ Oriental History
44. to the (teacher of history) .... teach us how to lie
palestine.my.love ,   this world   (01.02.06)
its magical idea , my mind is washes with lies , and u have the truth ..... i get my ideas from westren thinkers and im speciallist in westren culture , and know what i talk about .......im sure u was between tow options to embrase this idealogy : ( money + or defaming __or lava of Zionists)...... u know David Duke and Martin luther and others i dont remeber them now , may be u r teacher of history , but sure u cant make it like thousands of million in the world , u r just one sheap in the herd which Zionists bought it from the mud of Europe ....its just an idea about u. becuse u know whats money and familirity and lights ask u to know , and how u can prove tham my truths is lies , dont u think u r in this case so u describe the others in lack u live in. WHO DARES TO TALK
45. # 40 Mr. Steiner should learn some history
Avi ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.02.06)
With respect to Jews living under Islam you say "granted, as second-class citizens but still in peace and harmony", but this is the whole point. In the modern world we want self determination, not second class Dhimmi status. Historically, in the Islamic world, the best that we could hope for was second class status. More often it was forced conversion to Islam, persecution and death. The brief periods of toleration, if not flowering, were followed by darkness and death. The classic example is the Rambam (Miamonides) who fled from Moslem Spain to North Africa where the family disguised themselves as Moslems until he found relative safety in Moslem Egypt. Or take the example of the Jews of Mashad in Persia who were forcibly converted to Islam in the nineteenth century. The myth of the Golden Age of Jews under Islam was propagated by Jewish historians in the twenties and thirties of the previous century. Compared to the treatment we received under the civilized and cultured Europeans at the time, Islam was a relatively good environment, but relative to what? The industrialized murder of our people in Europe and the normal periodic pogroms of the Christian and Islamic world? Enough already. We now have (for the last 57 years) our own country where we can determine ourselves what it means to be Jewish. No other people or nation has conditions attached to how their state behaves, why should the Jews? The singling of the Jews for separate treatment is precisely Anti-Semitism. The fact that we are not perfect does not negate our basic rights. Whatever the theoretical idealistic position of the Jews was 150 years ago has no relevance to the fact that there is a functioning democratic State of Israel today with 20% non Jewish citizens. If we are going to get rid of nation states with ethnic or religious concentrations, all well and good, but let Israel be the 23rd in the queue, not the first.
46. Israel is a smoke screen for Ahmadjihadi
Cynthia ,   USA   (01.02.06)
I wondered what happened to the reformist voices. The new dictator is very busy eliminating the already limited rights of the Iranian people and refining his weapons of mass destruction. Here is an interesting website I found which the author identifies as a reformist website to support demoncracy in Iran at http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com/
47. #15
herb glatter ,   pittsburgh, pa, usa   (01.02.06)
thanks for the good laugh Sheik.
48. He's right
Muhammad ,   Montreal   (01.02.06)
The Europeans wanted an allie in the Mid-East in order to get the oil there and not because they love who Jews who represent less than 1% of the world's population. Don't forget who freed you from the crussaders Zionists. Our conflict is not with the Jews but rather with Zionists who took our land.
49. #48 - oh, there is SO much oil in Israel
Howard ,   Pacific Coast, USA   (01.02.06)
Come on, can't you find a better conspiracy theory? If Israel were about controlling the oil then Europeans would have forced Jews to settle, not in our own homeland of Israel, but in the oil-rich countries of the Gulf. Maybe you personally don't hate Jews, but turn around and look at the contents of your newspapers, the content of the sermons of your religious leaders, and at opinion polls throughout the Arab world. Whereas a majority of Israelis are perfectly willing to live side by side with Arabs in peace, a majority of Arabs still think Jews control the world and are inherently evil. ;-) It was our land before it was your land. Then it was other people's land. Then you took it from them. And so it goes on. Israel is there. It's not going away. Pick a more pragmatic option. There are many available. Or wallow in conspiracy theories and tell us that you don't want a voice in the future.
50. Prophesy from God's Word the Bible
Pat Sullivan ,   Los Altos, Ca   (01.03.06)
Amen! It was prophesied by God over 2 thousand years ago (See biblical reference to Ishmail's goodbye in Genesis I believe) that the Arab's would be a thorn in Israel's side throughout future. Ezekial 38 indicates a time when perhaps Russia, with Iran and some other probably Muslim countries would attack Israel and lose big time (though I am not sure it is a literal future prophesy, but I think it may be).
51. 666 Is The Real Date of Islam
Mark ,   Thailand   (01.03.06)
I really think that for MooHamHead (piss be upon him) to have derived IsLame in the so called date of 632 is just to damn close to 666, hey after all these years how do we know that 24 of them didn't get lost
52. #46 Clarification
DoctorZin ,   California, USA   (01.03.06)
I noticed your comment here and I want to make it clear that we are not a "reformist"website. The term "reformist" inside of Iran refers to a movement there that seeks incremental reforms under the current constitution. That movement is all but dead. We support an internal regime change inside of Iran that leads to real democracy in the country. In otherwords, a country with free elections where all candidates have an opportunity to participate in the government. We also believe that this will require a seperation of religion from the state. Otherwise, thanks for the plug. Visit our site and discover all the major news developments on Iran.
53. mahmoud
jose ,   la   (01.03.06)
thisstupid communist is the new hitler
54. #52 Good luck to you
Cynthia ,   USA   (01.03.06)
55. Ahmadinejad-Europe, Holocaust, his idiotic claims
steve ,   us   (01.03.06)
In any other country, Muslim or not, Mahmoud would have been tied up in a strait-jacket, placed in an asylum and left to eat his dung and then regergitate this rubbish. Instead, in country of fear, intolerance and the uneducated, he is elected President by those too stupid to understand his lies and those cowards or are forced to sup on the dung with him. Iran and Iraq needs women in their society or they will never progress out of the stone ages.
56. Ahmadinejad-Europe, Holocaust, his idiotic claims
steve ,   us   (01.03.06)
In any other country, Muslim or not, Mahmoud would have been tied up in a strait-jacket, placed in an asylum and left to eat his dung and then regergitate this rubbish. Instead, in country of fear, intolerance and the uneducated, he is elected President by those too stupid to understand his lies and those cowards or are forced to sup on the dung with him. Iran and Iraq needs women in their society or they will never progress out of the stone ages.
57. Tantrums and Sand Sandwichs
Johnny Gino ,   New York City USA   (01.03.06)
Just eat your sand and drink your oil my little Iranian brat while the rest of the civilization progresses. Oh... and just waiting for you guys to get just a bit closer - before the Israeli jets (with the help of U.S. satellite positioning, of course) fry your fledgling weapons programs.
58. He's crazy
Andrew Hanson ,   San Diego, U.S.A   (01.03.06)
#1 The Jews were not forced to move from Europe, the land that was once thiers was given back to them. They went by choice. #2 we need to nuke Iran now before it's to late. Litsen to his statements! HE'S CRAZY! He will not think twice about using his nukes once he has them!!!
59. A-men Marya #16
Gary ,   Freedom, USA   (01.03.06)
Another note. Arabs don't live in the desert, where ever arabs llive becomes a desert.
60. My President is Crazy !
Joesph ,   Iran   (01.04.06)
I live in Iran and work in the Nuclear Industry here, and their building a Nuclear Bomb to use against Israel and the West. If someone doesn't do something soon. there be mushroom clouds all over the mideast to N.America. They've converted Russian Subs to luanch pads also. Low megaton yeald weapons for max-kill, but low over-all distruction. You wait and see..........
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