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Livni: Hamas-led PA a terror state
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 08.02.06, 20:49
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1. Hamas Will Play the Shell Game
emanon ,   USA   (02.08.06)
The moderates (what an oxymoron) of Hamas wiill reform as the "official" government and bargaining group under the guise of a new name while the radicals will continue under their present banner. Later, they too will change their name and the bargaining group will declare "Hamas Is Dead". Meanwhile, nothing will have changed. The majority of the world will be sucked in by the scam and money will flow into Hamastan, out again for arms purchases, in again as weapons and more Israelis will be killed. All the while the puppet goernment of Hamsatan will be bleating "It's not our fault. Hamas does not exist".
2. Abbas the leader Bush calls a man of peace....
an Israeli mom   (02.08.06)
recognizes Israel. (In English anyway. ) Yet His party of Fatah/Al-aqsa has planned suicide bombings and carried them out on a good number of Israelis, so big deal Hamas is asked to recognize Israel. To ask Hamas to simply recognize Israel with no real transparency is the same as calling the Palestinians democratic just because they went and cast their vote. To ask a terror group to recognize a valid country will encompass a deep and very legitimate house cleaning. One which might take years and years. **Not a once over with a damp rag and a wink and an eye** To go one step further what keeps the party and sub parties of Abbas out of the pickle of being deemed a terror organization? They do not in english call for the destruction of Israel. Very smart, State Department. You get an A on knowing how to circumvent the truth. HOWEVER, everything in the party of Abbas including the text books in the PA the crap coming from mosques and in newspapers is so driven by kill the Jews it is pathetic. But simply because their current charter does not mouth the words "we call for the destruction of Israel" they are home free. Kill as many Jewish moms and dads and babies as you possibly can! Like magic all the money and lies and support in their behalf keeps on flowing like a mighty river. All while holding Israel responsible for their ills and the ills of the world. Quite clever indeed! Heaven forbid the West including the guy in the oval office were to tell the truth about Fatah and all their spin offs. My oh my, how then could the world hold Israel unfairly and unduly accountable for something to which the Palestinian people and their ruthless lying leaders brought on themselves. Thanks to Hamas we can now easily deflect the real blame from the PA themselves who incubated protected and co-conspired with terror. Remember the words of Bush about those who harbor terror? Goodness, this does not apply to the party of Arafat. The world loves this little shell game bereft of scruples. And the lies continue. The Palestinian people spoke. Get it? They made their choice and stood by Hamas. Now let them stew in it. When the Palestinian people are willing to make sacrifices unto themselves rather than make sacrifices onto others then we might have something to talk about. Until then all the thick white paint from the White House and smoke and mirrors can not truly cover the real agenda of a group of people hell bent on the destruction of my family. Speak the truth people. Scream to the President. He is after all the leader of the free world. If not him then who?
3. Wow, Livni is hot!
Mark Kerlen ,   Montreal, Canada   (02.08.06)
I saw today's new conference with Condi Rice. A recent article in Haaretz said Livni couldn't speak English. Well at today's new conference, an English professor could not have said things better than Livni! She makes you proud! I hope she moves on from "acting" foreign minister to foreign minister after the elections.
4. Livni & Rice
shlomo ,   shawinington   (02.08.06)
Livni - Israel's next PM, (hopefully). Rice - America's next President, (if not hillary).
5. Livni
Andy   (02.08.06)
Is ineed impressive. I wish her the best in the big job she has undertaken.
6. CONDI RICE AND HAMAS?????????
DEBRA ,   USA   (02.08.06)
CONDI RICE SOUNDS LIKE SHE HAS LOST IT. HAMAS IS ON THIS EARTH FOR ONE PURPOSE--THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL. WHAT IN WORLD DOES IT MATTER IF THEY RECOGNIZE ISRAEL? SHE SOUNDS LIKE SHE IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH TERROR GROUPS AND HOW THEY OPERATE. SHE SHOULD NOT BE TALKING TO THEM THROUGH A NEWS CONFERENCE AT THE WHITE HOUSE WITH ISRAEL'S FOREIGN MINISTER AT HER SIDE. SHE SHOULD BE DECLARING THEM A TERROR GOVERNMENT AND DEALING WITH THEM ACCORDINGLY. IT'S HER FAULT SHE EVEN ALLOWED THE ELECTION THERE. THE PALESTINANS HAVE CHOSEN TERROR AS THEIR GOVERNMENT. HOW COME RICE DOESN'T GET IT??????????????
7. Hamas Wild @$$ of Men
Yossi Finegold ,   Tennessee USA   (02.08.06)
Liver and Rice-aroni Need to get Tough on Hamas. Cut them off! Devorah and Barak cut off thier enemies! gen1612.blogspot.com
8. against Israeli law
Betsy ,   usa   (02.08.06)
if it's against Israeli law to transfer funds that might be used for terrorism, why was the law brokien? it's a good one. Gee, can pres. Bush tone it down? that was a pretty strong statement, "governments should stop the violence over the cartoons". now that he's said it, and the governments now know that's what they should do,, I'm sure they are slapping their foreheads and wondering why they didn't think of that.
9. The PA has ALWAYS led a terror state
Arie   (02.08.06)
10. Hamas-run PA a terror state...
Avi Tuchmayer ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (02.08.06)
Not like the Fatah-run PA was. No, wait......
11. #2 Now let them stew in it ,lol
Nick ,   USA   (02.08.06)
“The Palestinian people spoke. Get it? They made their choice and stood by Hamas. Now let them stew in it “. That was really funny, could you really tell me what worst can happen to a Palestinian ...destroying their homes, killing their kids , driving them out of their lands, destroyed economy,jailing their elected leaders ( the ones you even called moderate) and not recognizing their right to exist. The palestinian spoke out of frustration not becouse they wanted hamas , but becouse Israel left no other choices, ten years of so called piece and everything is moving backwords for them , all promises but when one Israeli leader try to deliver piece he gets assassinated. When I visited the west bank, I saw the worst occupation anybody can imagine, road blocks, insults by your IDF even to elder men, woman and children. How human is that? and why the international community is allowing the last occupation on earth to still remain?. If you are a true mom, you know the feeling of that woman that the IDF shot her 7 year old daughter not to long ago , for no reason other than the claim she was playing near the border fence, what a crime that a kid deserve punishment for it by “ Death”. and tell me which so colled democratic state allow this to go unpunished. I don’t agree with hamas in any of their agendas, but when you wrote your comment , you forgot that before your dying leader was elected, he was the terrorist of the century , condemned by international community and even your own government in 1983. LOL, Bush still called him a man of piece. Not to go further, many parties in the Israeli government call for the destruction of Palestinian , as well as transfer out of their lands. No body is talking about those groups , some of them are ministers in the current governments, should Israel be called a terrorist state then? and can we say let the Israeli people stew for that. I wish to here one party hailing piece, weather is Palestinian or Israeli’s they should scream at their governments for piece, Israel should admit the Palestinian right to 1967 independent state without 100 million condition and remove all kind of settlements in 1967 borders. The Palestinians in return should work with Israel for long prosperous piece and two nations living together regardless of who is leading their government.
12. What about NATO membership?
Henry James ,   US   (02.08.06)
The next logical step in this directions would be for Israel to join NATO. Then every "islamofascist" attack will be considered as an attack against NATO.
13. hear here #11!!
wanda ,   montreal, canada   (02.09.06)
it's time to recognize the so-called 'passive-violence' done to the palestinians. their actions are not born of a vacuum bubble, their complaints are very real. if they're treated with petulance, they will react petulantly. cut them from their land, raze their orchards and olive groves, bulldoze the homes... what would anyone do? i'd fight, you'd fight, and i'm sure the israelis would fight these acts of pure aggression. it's not just life we're talking about here, it's quality of life. no right of return for non-jews.? that's sick thinking. cede that right as a jew if you marry a palestinian? that's blatant discrimination, and wondering over the resentful response is dellusion. true violation is silent, physical violence its symptom. it may be time to rethink what acting with civility actually means...
14. Bush also called Abbas an honest man and
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (02.09.06)
Dahlan is a nice young man
15. wanda ,montreal, canada
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (02.09.06)
You obviously are clueless study facts and then open your mouth learn history
16. Bush Road Map led to Terrorist state
Marcel ,   Florida   (02.09.06)
appeasment always fails and rewarding terrorism is what the Bush Road Map is all about. The puppetess Livni is so easy to manipulate ,she loves the limelight.
17. AMAZING
DACON9   (02.09.06)
ITS AMAZING WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WHEN TYHEY BECOME POLITICANS THEY LOOSE THEY MIND.. ""ROADMAP TO PEACE"" WHAT WHERE WHEN? NEVER HAPPEN HASNT HAPPENT IN 1,500 YEARS AND WILL NOT HAPPEN TILL ARABS ARE OBLITERATED FROM EARTH , NOT THEIR SOPILD NOT THEIR DUST WILL REMAIN. HEY ITS NOT ME. .ITS THE PROPHESIES I MEAN YOU CAN INTERPRET TO BE THAT THEIR CURRENT MENTAL AND SPIRITUAL STANDING WILL REVERSE THROUGH PRAYER AND THEY WILL NOT BE ARABS IN THE SENSE THAT THEY ARE NOW, 'GD' WILL DO WONDERS THROUGH PRAYER
18. gabrielle namecaller
wanda ,   montreal, canada   (02.09.06)
whose version of history? which facts? i'm sure i did get things wrong, or overembellished. i guess that's what happens when you try and interpret corporate news snippets to the best of your absent understanding. perhaps you should correct ignorance instead of insulting it? seems like i touched a nerve though.. i wonder how?
19. Last time Rice made sense, she said "Condi love da da."
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (02.09.06)
20. THE HAMAS CHARTER: HAMAS SEEKS TO KILL ALL JEWS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (02.09.06)
From the Hamas Charter: Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it. The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. The Zionist invasion is a vicious invasion. It does not refrain from resorting to all methods, using all evil and contemptible ways to achieve its end. It relies greatly in its infiltration and espionage operations on the secret organizations it gave rise to, such as the Freemasons, The Rotary and Lions clubs, and other sabotage groups. All these organizations, whether secret or open, work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions. They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. It is behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion
21. Hamas
Steve ,   USA   (02.09.06)
Why Rice and Livni and the Israeli govt and Bush govt are a bunch of dreamers. When will they understand that the Palestinians voted for continued terrorism. That's all ther is to it...and why Israel would transfer money to Hamas is beyond belief. I recommend all Israeli polititians to go to shul (temple) and blieve more in G-d and the Torah. Wake up before you don't have a country. P.S I wish to buy as much of Israel as you want to sell...and I'll develop it.
22. go ahead hamas...
someone ,   somewhere   (02.09.06)
form your government. attack israel...see how fast you get wiped out then...
23. go away dacon...
(02.09.06)
you sir are an idiot. calling for the deaths of an entire culture...hm...where have we heard that before.
24. #13, wanda
kapara   (02.09.06)
Allow me to give you food for your limited thought. You spoke of no right of return for the palestinians among many of your israel bashing topics... When the arab world decided to make war instead of peace in 1948/1956/1967/1973, etc., etc., they are mandated to live with the consequences of their actions. To not expect them to do so, is hypocrisy or even simply anti semitism. As a direct result of the arab decision to make war instead of peace, me and my family had to become refugees from Iraq, a country we and our family had lived in since before the arabs ever showed up there. I am one of hundreds of thousands of jews from arab countries then that were ethnically cleansed. Have you ever spoken out against that? Or are you a hypocrite? So you believe that the arabs that fled israel should be allowed back in, but I am not entitled to my property back. Be careful what you say here, because if you say I deserve my land back, you have to return about 38% of bagdad back to the jews. Is that going to happen? Or do we have to live with the consequences of the arab decisions to make war instead of peace....and the arabs never have to be accountable and responsible for their decisions. Time does not move forward for them, they stand still. Perhaps if israel would have put me in a refugee camp inside israel, i would have your support. Are you going to protest all the arab countries for not being accountable and not absorbing the war starting and fleeing "palestinians".? Are you going to protest the choice of the arabs to keep their own bretheren in "refugee camps"? By the way, being as smart as you are, and open minded as you are, you obviously know that it is a crime punishable by death to sell your land back to a jew in iraq..... So I'm sure you are going to speak out on fairness...right? I can go over all your topics if you like....lets just end with the word you used: discrimination....one last question for you.... how many jews were allowed to immigrate to saudi arabia/yemen/egypt/jordan/iran/iraq/etc. in the past fifty years? Are you sure you want to talk about discrimination? or apartheid walls? have you always held jews to a higher level of accountability and responsibility than arabs?
25. #4 I totally aggree with you
Livni will be PM ,   I prefer Rice   (02.09.06)
I fetl very proud to see Livni in Washington, she's going to do a great job as Israel's Foreign minister. I think Rice has proved herself worthy and capable of being the next USA president. She's amazing.
26. #3 You are WEIRD!!
edan ,   israel   (02.09.06)
If you think she's hot...well everybody is entitled to their opinion....But her English is just plain bad....I saw the conference. She meant to say "transform into a terrorist state" and she said instead "transfer to a terrorist state"..There were a couple more blunders. She may be hot (to you, not to me) but she definitely needs to improve her English.
27. to #11 and #13 good argument I enjoyed it
(02.09.06)
Both of you, Your talkback is good. They have the same claim about the stolen land of palestinians, they have been tortured in Arab land..bla..bla..bla. In arab countries jews were living much better than Hitler 's time. ISRAELIS: STOP YOUR PROPAGANDA YOU MAKE THE WORLD SICK OF YOU.
28. #27 You funny little non-entity
GET REAL   (02.09.06)
You are the ones making false claims. You don't really know who you are, and neither does any world history book. You are a bunch of primitive tribes and hamulas who came to The Land of Israel, with no real connection between you. You pronounce "Palestinians" as: Sha'ab el Philastini, to form a false connection to the Philistines who were not semites. You are such a pathetic lot, and the only reason you are getting all this world attention is because of the historical jealousy and hatred toward the Jews. The world knows it's better to trash Jews since we won't burn, kill, bomb, etc., and not out of love for "Palestinians" (get an Arab name for God's sake!). THE WORLD IS SICK OF ARABS/MUSLIMS, BUT IS AFRAID TO SAY IT OUT LOUD!
29. to #28
(02.09.06)
I am not an arab neither a muslim idiot nor a palestinian. I tell the truth and only the truth. You'd better go to facts without lying you trash scumbag with a mind and heart full of hatred to the bones.
30. Nameless No 27 put a name to your nonsense
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (02.09.06)
Guess what... you are a hateful none entety Jew Hater one only needs to see who you find great and what you say May be you should move to Iran or Syria and you'll find steady support there
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