1. does it really matter
it is an academic point... the settlers and their governmental backers have consistently lied and stolen for so long now that it really makes no difference
| Michael , |
Haifa |
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2. London reads into it and fabricates
I can't believe that the editors allow this person to completely read into the story and embellish it as he sees fit- just because the facts don't support his worldview.
Freedom of the press isn't about lying.
| Binyamin , |
Binyamin |
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3. WAKEY WAKEY
Dear Mr. London
All sane leftist sobered-up by now.
wakey wakey "Mr. conscientious Liberal"
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4. Give us a break, The US Supreme Court
screws americans out of their land every day for the rich developers and city councils.
Not that it's the right thing to do with imminent domain cases. But the Arabs haven't lost land in any worse manner than Americans.
And at least we don't strap on the bomb belt, to solve our problems in land disputes.
And had we attacked a country several times, and lost all our land, we probably still wouldn't of done all the barbaric garbage the palestinians commit on innocent civilians.
| Steven Wilson , |
Anchorage, Alaska |
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(02.19.06) |
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5. Just the facts, maam.
Well, at least the one true fact we got out of this article was that the settlers of Amona did buy and pay for their land .
Everything else by London is just very biased conjecture (after all Jews buying land from Arabs is a bad thing).
A little food for thought.
You would think that sometime in the past 10 years, the former Arab landowners would at least have petitioned the courts even once directly against the Amona settler.,
Or even better, that Peace Now would have found at least one (just one) Arab landowner to act as a petitioner or claimant in their court case against Amona.
Ten years and all this publicity and still not even a single attempt by the supposedly damaged party to bring this case to court, even despite Peace Now's best efforts to find one.
Could there be a reason?
So perhaps the land was sold legally and willingly, but as London mentioned the representatives of the seller (and actual owner) were beaten up by their fellow Arabs, so they aren't about to have their signature pulled out and be killled too (as PA law demands).
| Danny , |
Dimona |
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6. Just the facts, maam
Well, at least the one true fact we got out of this article was that the settlers of Amona did buy and pay for their land .
Everything else by London is just very biased conjecture (after all Jews buying land from Arabs is a bad thing).
A little food for thought.
You would think that sometime in the past 10 years, the former Arab landowners would at least have petitioned the courts even once directly against the Amona settler.
Or even better, that Peace Now would have found at least one (just one) Arab landowner to act as a petitioner or claimant in their court case against Amona.
Ten years and all this publicity and still not even a single attempt by the supposedly damaged party to bring this case to court, even despite Peace Now's best efforts to find one.
Could there be a reason?
So perhaps the land was sold legally and willingly, but as London mentioned the representatives of the seller (and actual owner) were beaten up by their fellow Arabs, so they aren't about to have their signature pulled out and be killled too (as PA law demands).
| Danny , |
Dimona |
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7. He said She said
How does this justify the fractured sculls, the molestation, the horse trampling, Plus all the other sadistic beatings that took place.
| Israel Ben Moshe , |
USA |
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8. And just exactly how does this justify...
...beating unarmed people bloody with clubs and trampling teenage girls with horses?
Even Yaron admits that the Jews did not "steal" the land, that they paid for it with good money even as he quibbles and splits hairs over whether the transaction was "glatt kosher."
Someone should look into the parcel history of the land on which Yaron's home is built and find out just exactly how he came to possess it.
| Kyle , |
Southpark, CO, USA |
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(02.20.06) |
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9. Justifying violence - typical of the left
Children's heads were smashed - in direct contradiction of accepted police protocols; people beaten - a child put in a coma...and you cry about land deeds. How pathetic...how typical...yes - let's ignore the violence that was done, the laws that were broken - ANYTHING to say the "settlers" are anything but Jews and Israels. Honestly, you make me sick thinking you call yourself a Jew. Shame on you. If you love Arabs so much - go live with them - please! It is OUR children that stay in Israel...think of Olmert's children - living abroad, think of Sarid's children - living abroad - all typical left wing Jews who love liberty...but know NOTHING of justice
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10. All the respect to Mr. London
I like or even love the way Mr. London analyses things and ofcourse I watch and advice everyone to watch his valuable program (London Et Kershimboum) at channel 10 everyday 7:05 pm local time. I wish all the best to you and to Mr. Moti.
| Nadeem , |
Jerusalem |
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11. #1 -Perhaps Shakespeare would have said
"A plague on both your houses!"
| Dorothy Friend , |
Tel Aviv |
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12. To #11
That would be the government and the Arabs?
| Mike , |
Metulla |
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(02.20.06) |
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13. Hypocrite!!!
If Mr London is so interested in the way the land was purchased as a way to justify police violence against young girls and teenagers, maybe he should look into how North Tel Aviv was purchased, or maybe into the neighborhood of Rechavia which was sold to to the Yishuv after the British forced the Greek Orthodox Church to do so in order to clear their debts. Maybe we can now justify any police violence in Rechavia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| nb , |
london, uk |
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14. Beating up innocent teenagers
All those who scream here about those poor innocent kids at Amona, just tell me which planet you are living on.
Attacking policeman with Rocks, trying to spear them with metal rods....where it the innocense here?
They went for the hard way, and not they complain for getting hurt.
I am much more bothered about the policeman who had his Kneecap smashed doing his duty then for any of the cute innocent kids.
| Nadav , |
Misgav |
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15. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM??
What Arabs allegedly owned the land? The mukhtar (chieftain), who negotiated a deal with the Jews? The other Arabs who attacked the mukhtar's representative and "refused to sign"? But, if the other Arabs had a real claim, why didn't they go running to Peace Now, who, I am sure, would have been happy to help them? Leaving aside the questions of who is financially responsible for Highway 6's intrusion and whether the mukhtar held real title to the land, the case seems clear. The mukhtar was faced with devaluation of "his" land. He approached the Jews for help. Instead of helping him get the government to throw money into an underpass (which could be used for terrorist activities), they bought the land from him. The mukhtar was satisfied that he made money on "useless land"; the Jews were satisfied that they could build a new neighborhood. Where's the "coersion"?
| Uri DeYoung , |
Dem. Rep. of Israel |
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(02.20.06) |
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16. The Old West Comes to the Middle East
My heart and head sides with the Israelis on this one.
It does, however, remind me of a reverse of the land deals in the Old West of the US. In this case, the Arabs seem to be claiming
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17. If U LONDON, were a Journalist instead
of beeing a hate jewish propagandist, it would be your duty to check the facts, before writing your usual antisemitic libbel, concluding:
-"Now, who knows what the bigger lie is: the government's claim that Amona residents broke the law, or the settlers claim that the land was purchased legally."
It is so easy to check in the TABU if the Jews have bougt the land or not.
But since U know the answer, U will certain not check the facts because they might be in contrast with the prejudice you are pouring daily against the "hated Jews".
During WWII there was the Judenrat that collaborated with the nazi enemy, under thread for their life.
Today there is Juden-RA, like Yaron London that colllaborates with the nazi islamists just for the fun.
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18. The Torah
The Torah says that the Land can be obtained in two ways: By occupation and by aquisition. Asserting Jewish "theft" in this case is nothing short of anti-Semitism. Hashem gave these lands to the Jews and that's that.
| Andras Bereny , |
Kfar Tapuah, Shomron |
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19. THANKS YARON FOR THAT CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF---NOTHING!!!
| YARON LONDON DUMB , |
IS YOUR HOME INSURED |
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20. #14, didn't you see the videos?
Your post just shows what qa jerk you are. No decent person would condone the attempts to hurt the police by violent protesters at Amona. However, I saw the videos of police brutality against peaceful protesters. I saw the police beat protesters who were sitting and holding hands in a building and doing nothing that be construed as threatening or violent. Some of these beaten and peaceful protesters were little teenage girls. I also saw the police on horseback charge crowds and indiscriminately beating anyone that they could. No decent person should support this abuse of police power for in fact, this was a pogrom against many innocent Jews who were exercising their rights to peacefully protest.
| Ignatious , |
USA |
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(02.21.06) |
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21. to #20
You would bring more sympathy to your cause if you stopped referring to "Pogrom's"
Either you don't understand history and what a pogrom was, or you don't understand what happened in Amona.
This was not a pogrom, this was riot police responding to a riot, often inappropriately, but not savagely beating and killing "innocents"
| dave , |
herzliya |
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22. Dave, are you an idiot?
Exactly what is about my post that you don't understand? If you saw the video of the police beating non-violent protesters, exactly how was that police responding to a riot? In fact, this behavior was a police riot. As far as the term "pogrom", once again you show your total ignorance. My Grandmother and Mother told me of a pogrom in their shtetl in Russia. Cossacks on horseback charged innocent and peaceful Jews and beat them unmercifully. Fortunately, this pogrom did not end in death for any Jews in their shtetl. However, Jewish population was expelled. So watching a video of armed police beating protesters who were staging a peaceful sit-in IN a building and seeing scenes of police on horseback charging crowds of protesters sure looked like a pogrom to me.
| Ignatious , |
USA |
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23. Re: 22
It was a pogrom. All the worst, perpetrated by the so called "Jewish State": An historic event that points an accusing finger to the capo government that Jews must stop. So it's time to stand up for Jewish Autonomy in the heartland of Eretz Israel!
| Andras Bereny , |
Kfar Tapuah, Shomron |
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24. Re: 21
It was a POGROM: innocent civilians were brutalised and driven out of their homes: The lesson to be learned is that Israel over the years has lost its Jewish caracter, it has become an atheist corrupt democracy that is openly anti-Jewish in policy and practice. The time is ripe to have our Jewish Autonomy in Judea and Shomron!
| Andras Bereny , |
Kfar Tapuah, Shomron |
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25. MEDICAL TEAMS WERE ATTACKED BY POLICE AT AMONA
www.israelnationalnews.com
Incidents of Police Violence and Abuse Continue to Surface
17:00 Feb 06, '06 / 8 Shevat 5766
By Hillel Fendel
...It has now been learned that even Magen David Adom (MDA) medical teams were not immune to police attacks. Shalom Galil of Beit El, an experienced medic, told this story:
"I was outside house #6, and a Border Guard officer called out, 'Medic! Medic!' So I came and he said that someone was hurt inside the house. I climbed in through the window [the doors were sealed - ed.], and I looked for the patient. Two Border Guard policemen were there and said, 'No one is here, get out,' and they started beating me. At the same time, they pushed me towards the salon, where two other policemen were blocking the way. I screamed that I was an MDA medic, and of course they saw my orange MDA vest, but they didn't care and kept on beating me, until I was finally able to get out."
Another medic, Mordechai Ben-Aros of Kokhav Yaakov, had a similar story:
"Most of the MDA personnel were in the first-aid tent, treating the wounded, while we were three paramedics outside in the 'field.' We also had stretcher-carriers and other volunteers, but we were treating the wounded...
"At one point, we came to a house, and the commander asked me to go in and deal with those who were hurt. When I went in, with my bright orange vest, there were policemen who recognized me from previous houses - but one of them pushed me into a corner and started screaming at me and did not allow me to go up to the roof and check who was hurt. At the same time, a Yassamnik started hitting me without stopping. I tried to say that the officer had told me to come in, and they said they didn't care and kept on beating me... Afterwards, at another house, they told me to go in to check the wounded, but we chose not to."
In another case, an army officer whose name is known did not allow an ambulance to go from Ofrah to Amona.
Another paramedic said that Magen David Adom management instructed its volunteers not to publicize the stories.
It was also learned that a woman ambulance driver was taking a wounded policeman to the hospital, and he cursed her and abused her the whole route. A complaint has been filed with the police.
Roni Daniel, Channel Two's veteran anchorman, reported from the scene:
"The policemen here are raining blows down on the settlers one after the other. The blows are unnecessary, they are hitting just to vent their rage, there is no need for it. The police behavior on the roofs has to be investigated. The violence here is unnecessary."
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=98046
| Linda Rivera , |
New York |
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26. Rebuild Amona ASAP
Whatever, just rebuild Amona and worry about the nicities later. Rebuilding Amona makes a strong symbolic statement for Zionism and should be a priority of the next government.
| Steven , |
San Francisco |
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