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IDF officer cancels UK trip for fear of arrest
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 27.02.06, 01:11
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31. IDF Ethics
M ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (02.27.06)
What is seen in the media does not represent the norm or the vast majority. An officer empting a clip at a 'little' (teenage) girl in a restricted zone with a suspicious package (children have often been cought with pipe bombs etc at checkpoints) is the exception to the rule. I served in the IDF (in Gaza where Cochavi was the division commander)and often we were ordered not to return fire because of to risk of casualties. (What about colateral damage???) If we are so bad how about the British and American soliders in Iraq, I understand and support them 110% but Israelis are not serbians or chechnians and the list of despots and criminal states is a long one, and we don't shoot people for sport. In the end we all need to recoginze that in the news world a good or positive story does not sell as well as a sensationalized bad one can. In short one bad apple does not spoil the bunch.
32. Still hoping this is a joke...
Jonathan ,   Tel Aviv   (02.27.06)
Have you seen what the British did and still do in Iraq/India/Africa/South America. I am glad he is not studying there, for not spending the tuition fees over there. So sad to see how Europe ignores the upcoming world war III. I want to see one country that would tolerate what Israel tolerates. It is easy to speak from Canada. No, Ron, we do not use Palestinian children for target practice. If we wanted, there wouldn't be a leftover from what you call Palenstinian. Can someone please explain to me why do they still shoot us (Israelis), when we evacuate them. Why did they choose the Hamas as their leader ? Do you really want to tell me that their talks with Iran are for peace ? How dumb do we look like ? These 'war crimes' games are a bit out of order. Hypocrisy, Illustrated.
33. #14
Jajne   (02.27.06)
Have you protested against Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigade, etc.? The Palestinians think that THEY are above the law because of terror-justifiers like you. It is because of people like you that so many Israelis are dead. Or perhaps that was your intention all along. Eh?
34. ISRAELI SOLIDER WELCOME IN USA
DEBRA ,   USA   (02.27.06)
HAVE THE BRAVE ISRAELI SOLIDER COME TO STUDY IN AMERICA. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HIM. THE USA IS NOT OVERRUN WITH MUSLIM FANATICS. NO MUSLIM WOULD RISK SURFACING AND TAKING AN ISRAELI SOLIDER TO AN AMERICAN COURT. HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE FBI WOULD BE ALL OVER THAT MUSLIM AND WOULD GO OVER HIM WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB AND HE WOULD PROBALY END UP IN GITMO. WE ARE NOT EURABIA . WE ARE FREE AMERICANS AND WE ADMIRE AND SUPPORT ISRAEL. PLEASE COME.
35. PA CALL FOR THE MURDER OF ALL JEWS AND AMERICANS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (02.27.06)
The war against the Jews is called the "peace" process. Why have American and European taxpayers been forced for years to finance the war against the Jews? The Palestinian Authority teach through their mosques, media, summer camps and public education system, that murdering Jews is a religious obligation. Islamic human bomb murderers of innocent Jews are revered and considered heroes. Broadcast from Gaza mosque, Oct 13 2000, Dr. Ahmad Abu Halabiya, on Palestinian Authority TV (transcribed by Memri): "Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them..."
36. #24 Ron - you're remarkable.
howard ,   pacific coast, usa   (02.27.06)
Ron, sir, you are deeply confused. Every army has rogue soldiers, like the Jordanian who machine-gunned the Israeli kids at the checkpoint. I do not claim that the Jordanian high command ordered that act, any more than Israeli commanders order rogue soldiers to commit crimes. The soldier who emptied the clip into the dead girl was ARRESTED and, one hopes, jailed for a long time. However, HAMAS has NEVER arrested ANY of the HAMAS operatives who ordered the numerous, deliberate murders of doctors and shoppers and club patrons. ZERO. On the contrary, HAMAS calls those men heroes. When will you call for THEIR arrest? Until you do, you are blatantly a hypocrite. HAMAS/PIJ/Fatah DELIBERATELY AND COLD-BLOODEDLY TARGET non-combatants for death -- both Israeli non-combatants, and their own. They operate from civilian areas, using THEIR OWN PEOPLE as human shields. They send bombers to blow up buses and restaurants AND HOSPITALS, deliberately murdering people who for all they know could have the same beliefs as you. If Israel wanted high civilian death counts, all it would have to do would be to level Gaza City with artillery. There is nothing in the world that the Pals could do about it. What does Syria -- HAMAS sponsor -- do when faced with an intifadah? It does exactly that, murdering 20,000 people in 1 week in Hama. In contrast, the Israelis have NEVER operated that way against the Palestinians. They have ALWAYS minimized civilian casualties, even when attacked from populated areas. Or the death count in Gaza/WB would resemble that in Hama or Darfur. And yet you think HAMAS and the Syrians are heroes and the Israeli officers are criminals? You're completely misrepresenting the situation. Palestinian terror gangs and their supporters either know no shame, or have no clue at all.
37. #33 Huh? You meant #24, I think, not #14. LMAO.
howard ,   pacific coast, usa   (02.27.06)
38. Kochavi should study in the US...
Phil ,   Irvine, CA   (02.27.06)
...where the government understands and supports Israel...
39. born again humanitarian ubermenschen
alan ,   frisco   (02.27.06)
The British suffered one day of terror attacks from radical Islam and a whole lot of law went out the window. Israel has suffered 70 years of terrorism, yet the British presume to be have superior moral smell. This hypocarcy stinks like a mackrel in July baking on Fleet Street. The IDF, despite the complicity of the media in spreading out right lies about the behavior of Israeli soldiers, has the highest moral standards of any army in the world. See the Memri site for see secondraft.org for example of fabrications coming out of Pallywood which many normally sane journalists take for the truth despite the obvious fabrication of events. People like Ron pontificate out of ignorance or Jew hatred, does it really matter? Still despite the decline of the moral compass of the British government, we still have very many friends in Britian which is the only Western European c
40. Jane, congrats, looks like you're strilking a nerve again.
AK   (02.27.06)
41. #29 Joe
Jane   (02.27.06)
Joe, it is not I but #13 that utilized this ugly phrase. I was responding to his profound Jew-hatred. My lovely Jewish house is clean. By the way, Joe, I am Israeli so I know full well the situation, especially having lost the husband of a friend in a lynching at the hands of people with #13's mentality.
42. #31
Jesse Marks ,   Peabody, USA   (02.27.06)
Well said!
43. #27 You aren't the brightest shining candle, are you?
(02.27.06)
44. jane 33
(02.27.06)
seams i made you very nerves that even you wrote your name wrong .... lol .. easy baby
45. #11
SONPAL   (02.27.06)
HOW DARE YOU ASK AN ARAB TO NOT MAKE A CONVERSATIONS IT IS THE ARABS AND THE PALESTINIANS LAND , YOU ARE THE FOREIGNERS YOU HAVE TO LEAVE , GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL COUNTRIES IN EUROPE , YOU STOLEN THIS LAND BY THE SUPPORTS OF THE BTITS , ONLY 60 YEARS BACK , DID YOU EVER THINK THAT THE ARABS OR THE MUSLIMS WILL FORGIVE YOU OR THEY WILL FORGOTTEN THEIR LAND , LOOK AROUND THIS LAND , IT IS SURROUNDED BY THE ARABS AND THE MUSLIMS , YOU ARE THE STRANGERS HERE , THE ARABS PEOPLES REFUSING YOU , REFUSING TO DEAL WITH YOU, SOONER OR LATER YOUR SUPPORTERS WILL VANISHED ,AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO YOU ORIGINAL COUNTRIES , MOST OF YOU HAVE DUAL NATIONALITY , LEAVE NOW BEST FOR ALL…?????
46. Forget Britain, just warm beer and islamic crazies.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (02.27.06)
47. To Jane
Jimmy ,   Canada   (02.27.06)
Hi Jane, I've been reading your comments and I have a question for you! Honestly, What do you think is the best solution for the middle east crisis? Please be realistic ! I mean, dont start telling me palestinins want to throw jews in the sea or that israelies want palestinians out. Just tell me what do you think a realistic solution of the problem is !!! and by the way if you start blaming one side only or saying that the whole solution is in one side's hands then it will be obvious to me that you dont want a solution !!! I think we all agree that there is a problem in the middle east and that killing in both sides will not solve the problem .. so what do you think is the solution ?! thanks
48. Kyle #19
Farouk ,   Jerusalem   (02.27.06)
You are right they are Israeli roads as defined by yellow Israeli plates on the vehicles. About a year ago a group of Palestinians (myself included) presented to the US senate a report on the road use and rights in the West Bank. Present with us was an officer from the Israeli embassy whose job was to ensure the Israeli view is also covered. To balance our presentation the officer clarified that these roads are accessible to yellow plate cars and these are not Israeli Jews only but also Palestinians that are Israeli citizens and East Jerusalemites. An African American member of the senate answered back and summed it up by saying "You are telling me that the niggers cannot use these roads but the house niggers can".
49. #47
Jane   (02.27.06)
Education for peace and compromise.
50. #48 Farouk
Jane   (02.27.06)
If your anecdote is correct, it would appear that's quite a chip he had on his shoulder, that member of the Senate. Perhaps it should have been pointed out to him, which I doubt you did, that citizenship confers certain rights that non-citizenship does not.
51. #45
Jane   (02.27.06)
We're not foreigners nor did most of us come from Europe. Ever hear of Morocco, Syria, Libya, Ethiopia, Egypt, Yemen, Algeria, Tunisia, Iran, Iraq? Last time I checked, they were not in Europe. Perhaps its best for YOU to go back to the sands of Arabia from which YOU came.
52. Jane # 50
Farouk ,   Jerusalem   (02.28.06)
"If your anecdote is correct" shame on you Jane, why would I make this up? I will back at the senate in the spring, would like to join me? The topic is Jerusalem.
53. Farouk
Jane   (02.28.06)
Jerusalem is the eternal capital of the Jewish people. It is not a topic. Shame on you.
54. Hey, Jane
Farouk ,   Jerusalem   (03.01.06)
I do agree with you Yerushalim is the eternal capital of the Jewish people and AlQuds is the national capital for the Palestinians and Jerusalem is the eternal destination of Christian pilgrims. In the senate Jerusalem is a topic in the white house it is an issue and in the middle east it is a struggle.
55. Farouk
Jane   (03.03.06)
Bethlehem is the eternal destination of Christian pilgrims, more so than Jerusalem. Al Quds was never anything significant to the Palestinians until the Jewish people returned to their homeland. Suddenly it became important. Yerushaliim is the eternal capital of the Jewish people (as you admit). It is not open for discussion. The Palestinians are struggling with themselves in that regard, because it is not, nor was it ever, theirs. So the White House, the Senate, everyone in the middle east can talk all they like and consider it a topic, but it is not a topic for the people to whom it belongs - it is simply ours.
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