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Neturei Karta in Iran: Zionists use Holocaust
Roee Nahmias
Published: 12.03.06, 11:31
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31. Question to Zionists: Answer
Ariel ,   USA   (03.12.06)
NK: You Zionists have all the money, all the lobbies, all the weapons, all the media all the rabbis (almost) and the Congress. Did you get your talking points from the Arab League??? Or the Neo-Nazis??? I could care less about what you think religiously. But I do care about the harm you do to the Jewish state. When you help the enemies of Israel, you become the enemy of Israel. Drop dead.
32. the Neturei Karta
faithful jew ,   montreal, canada   (03.12.06)
why don't they convert to islam if the support the muslims & don't love their fellow jews
33. #32 faithful retard
Dude   (03.12.06)
"why don't they convert to islam if the support the muslims & don't love their fellow jews" Umm, BECAUSE THEY'RE JEWS!!
34. Depicable and morally depraved fanatics
Drumgoole   (03.12.06)
This cult of the NK are not just anti-Zionist. They have committed the ultimate obscenity by cursing the memory of all those innocents who were murdered during the Holocaust. They are simply not human beings. Interestingly, I know several converts to Judaism who went through the Conservative Movement's conversion process. They love Israel, contribute generously to Jewish charities(including Orthodox charities) and love being Jewish and love the Jewish people. Yet, if they had undergone the conversion in Israel, they would not be recognized as Jewish. Incredibly, these destroyers of Jews, the NK, are considered Jewish. Go figure.
35. #1: You don't know all Persian Jews
Persian CAT   (03.12.06)
The Iranian Jews who have not left their motherland of 2500 years certainly concur with the view that the state of Israel, which was created merely 50 or some years ago by a bunch of European Jewish terrorists, and has been rule by their type, Jewish religious extremists and war criminal ever since, certainly does not represent many decent Jews in the world. How can a bunch of occupiers and land thieves have anything to do with the Jewish conscience?
36. WAY TO GO NK!!
(03.12.06)
keep up the truth and the beauty-its great to know there are a fewgood jews out there!! truthful and unracist!!
37. #35 , i know all persian jews
persian cat prim ,   usa   (03.12.06)
i am persian, and know the sentiment and feeling of the persian jews, thank god i could leave this land as long as it is under occupation of the extremists all the jews is under extreme pressure in iran, they are being called filthy "najis", and they have second class citizen status if still they can not leave iran it is because pure economical reasons these rhetorics of #35 is pure islamic, like his mentor ahmadinejad the people that have cherrished the land of israel for melleniums, and always have stood in prayers toward it are not occupiers shame are u number 35, persian can, i know you , and have met you many times in iran, and know how much you are antisemite thanks god the era of your domination is almost over
38. Beilin, Olmert and this guy
Yariv ,   Tel Aviv   (03.12.06)
Don't worry. Beilin and Olmert would love to vist Arafat/Abbas or that guy in Taheran. After elections you will see Olmert/Beilin in Iran/Hamastan.
39. The Antizionists inappropriate denials
Steve ,   USA   (03.12.06)
B"H I am not a rabbi. But I am thankful that I was able to visit Israel. I do not think that would be possible under any Arab government: I simply would not feel comfortable visiting an Arab regime such as Iran with its menacing stance since I do not know anyone there who I would want to visit. In current times, the best government in Israel has been the Zionist one, with all its imperfections, which sadly are numerous. I personally have been able to visit Israel but I am not willing to sign up under Zionist citizenship. I also currently believe that Zionist citizenship is not necessary, and I am concerned with the evil that I would be potentially invovled with if I did so sign up. For example, I would not want to participate in the uprooting of Jews from their well-established homes. Why should I make a commitment to a land of uprooting that the zionists are not even fully committed to? I am concerned with the Holocost denial: that does concern me, because the Holocost did happen, and it was mass-murder of millions of Jews and other people too. G-d was sanctified through those close to him, and it was very painful for the entire Jewish people. I very much wish for a better path. I think the mention of Holocost denial is very insensitive, and I would not encourage these people to visit Germany, because the Germans could potentially arrest them just like any other Iranian who disregards this important chapter in human history. I am not sure if Israel has the same standards as Germany on this point, or not. Perhaps this is my ignorance, but what surprises me is that Israel insists on citizenship for residence, as far as I undertand. Maybe the existing official programs just have not been well-publicized. Europe has for example programs where one can work for a year in Europe. I think that if Israel can deal with these people, that it would be sensitive if there were a program to allow Jews to work in Israel for a year or two, without signing up for Zionist citizenship, legally speaking. The Arabs complain about their not being allowed to work inside Israel unhampered. But, also we Jews outside of Israel are not officially permitted to work for a mid-term basis of more than a couple of months as non-resident aliens, and I personally have no violent intentions against the Zionist regime whatsoever. I feel sad that there are those who complain that the violent Arabs do not have access to the Israeli market for a year, but the same applies even to the peaceful Jews of other citizenships aside from Zionist. It is a proportional response already in restricting the Arabs from working in Israel who are not Zionist citizens.
40. Antizionist inappropriate response II
Steve ,   USA   (03.12.06)
B"H In that sense, the Zionists recognize that I am Jewish no more than I recongize that the Zionists have authority over me. I am not their citizen, and they will not formally allow me to work their militarily-controlled land that G-d promised me, if I follow G-d's commandments. But neither will Hamas legally allow Jews to live on the Gaza terroritory any more than the Zionists now will permit: there is not even a citizenship option under Hamas, but just death. In summary, there is no rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem associated with Jewish soveriegnty, and the work towards redemption has many imperfections even in our time. At least the Zionists permit me to visit, and I am thankful for that. I am surprised that I did not hear more thanks from these other people who were in Iran instead of their homeland Israel for their freedom to be on the land and work there. However, the Hamas government also does not permit me as a Jew to safely work the land, and it is impossible to sign up for what the Hamas members are proposing, which is Jewish mass-murder, which I see as much worse. In essence, I do not find the move of the Antizionists helpful because Iran and Hamas do not permit any living in this land of Israel. If Iran and Hamas are serious about human rights, they should permit Jewish residence in the land under their terror control east of the green line and also in Gaza as a viable option to what the zionists have to offer. Until that happens, I cannot put Iran and Hamas in any better light than the Zionist regime, and I do not think it is appropriate to do so before that occurs. The current atmosphere created by the Arab violence has been unwelcoming towards Jews in Gaza, and I despise that most of all, with the zionist actions being at least being inviting if not fully perfect.
41. NK
Yisraeli   (03.12.06)
dont assume that these figures actually live in Israel, they dont. Most are in New York and a handfull in London. There maybe a handfull in Mea Shearim but they are not vocal and keep their beliefs secretly. I actually dont necessarily object to their view of not having to have to support the State. We know its a secular state and many of us even seculars are abhorred at the way this 'State' functions and how it operates openly against Jewish values. So I think its ones right if they so choose not to support this state. Yet one can still love our brothers and sister Jews/Yidden who live there. Am Yisrael arevim ze la ze - The Jewish people are responsible for one another. But to consort with the enemy of Jews who desire to eradicate Jews simply because theyre Jews is unforgivable and an open chillul Hashem. And to that NK poster, yes whilst we may have a few hamans as leaders the problem is that you falsely assume by dressing up as Mordechai consorting with amalek you falsley attempt to represent am yisrael when in fact you are no different then Haman consorting in wiping out Jews. Maybe just maybe you are all re-incarnated (gilgulim) souls of Shabattai Tzvi and his followers with much Tikkun yet to do. Either way you should be dressing up as Mullahs and look the part of Haman and not Jews, thats the point.
42. traitorous anti-Jews.
Hilda ,   USA   (03.13.06)
Maybe these unfortunate sub humans think that if they paint their doorposts with the blood of their fellow Jews that tsomehow the nucleur blast of the Irans will pass over their homes. Are they foolish misguided asses or they just inhuman characatures of Human beings, spawns of the devil?
43. NK IS RIGHT THAT SECULARS ARE EVIL, I WANT REAL JEWISH STATE
(03.13.06)
44. NK against naZionism
Captain ,   Netherlands   (03.13.06)
How can the Zionists use the same methods on the Palestinians as did the Nazis to them? They forgot so quick?
45. how many more amonas will it take for you to see the brutal
mf ,   jlm   (03.13.06)
barbaric beasts of the govt of israel are the last and biggest jew and god haters in the world?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
46. Everyone... read this.
Proud Israeli   (03.13.06)
#3, They are not self hating Jews, they are not Jews at all. They may call theirselves Jews, but we, real Jews, know what the Torah says. This whole conflict was predicted before Muslims were born. It is all written in the Torah, our slavery, exile, return to our homeland, fight with babylon (lebanon), assyria (syria), etc. Nothing about this is new, we know about this for ages, and anyone who says Israel is not the homeland of the Jews is not a Jew. As it is our homeland by religion, and not by zionism. It is our homeland both because God gave it to us, and also because we were here before everyone else. The Romans exiled us and changed the name of Israel to Phlistine so we won't come back, just because they wanted it this way doesn't mean it will happen. We had 5 wars as united jews, and we won them all with god and IDFs help. It is too bad people don't learn from history.
47. #28
(03.13.06)
No one wants you to bow to us. Actually, if you'd bow to me, I would feel sick. If I would see you I would feel sick. As a "zionist", I have a question for you, if the Torah CLEARLY states that god promises us Israel, who is the real fraud? (Not only that, he also mentions how important some places like Jerusalem are for us. It also mentions all the wars we are currently having. And instead of supporting your ancestors, you are supporting their destroyers. Israel was formed over OUR land, where rome exiled us, not god. IF god didn't want us to have Israel, why did we win 5 wars that seem illogical to even think about winning? (As we were outnumbered by 3-4 armies). And who do you think god means when he says "Plishtim"? and who the hell do you think you are to say you can't use hebrew because of zionists, any self respecting jew would know hebrew has nothing to do with zionism but maybe zionism has something to do with hebrew, like everything jewish. INCLUDING THE TORAH, and you did use the word 'Talmud' in your site I noticed. And one of your rabbis is actually called Yisroel. You are so arrogant it makes me sicker than it would make me to see you. You are the only kind of Jew I would not want to do Aliyah... rot in Iran and in dooms day we'll see who was right.
48. #39-40
(03.13.06)
Those restrictions come from security reasons. They used to be a lot lighter, but since they were used against us to commit terror inside our borders, the policy has changed. It happens quite frequently in a lot of areas. But it was not intentional in order to make arabs not work here because they are arabs, it's to block those few arabs who ARE terrorists. We may block some good arabs as well, or even christians etc, but thats colleteral damage as far as I'm concerened. This may be a wrong way of handling this, but if this saves human lives, so be it.
49. Fine, so you don't believe in the state. But...
yehudi ,   South Africa   (03.13.06)
why must you be so active in trying to destroy it? How can you know what G-d's word is? How do you know that the State of Israel is against His will? And how can you join hands with our wickedest enemies, who wish only to kill us and destroy everything of ours? Why do you not see that by doing this you are in effect killing your own brothers??? You are killing Jews by joining their most evil enemies, and by supporting them. And almost just as bad, you are causing a rip in the fabric of the Jewish nation; you are making 'agudot agudot', you show the world that the Jews are not united, that we are in (at least) 2 different camps, that we are fighting one another. Only UNITED can we STAND! Divided, we are weaker, more vulnerable. These NK guys seem to have a generous helping of the spirit of Amalek in them...
50. history
jk ,   sd,ca.   (03.13.06)
first off, the land was given to the Jewish people by and from God, the Alpha and Omega the First and the Last, the Burning Bush. The Neturei Karta's are a people that are going to be sent to the abyss along with all the rest of the Islamic faciast that think they are even going to be given a chance to heaven with the God of Abrahm Issac and Jacob They are kidding themselves. when the time comes God will insure that the Jews and the Christians will be protected. But the worst part is that hisory is afunny thing because man doesn't learn from his own history. All the reoric that this Amiddijan what ever his name is is talking the same reoric that Lenin Stalin and Hitler spoke and the Jews still survived and prospered
51. Neturei Karta
Jerry Meents ,   Ogden, Utah. USA   (03.13.06)
Israel should ship all members of Neturei Karta to Iran or any other Arab country. Israel have problems enough with out traitors. Members of this group call them selfs Jewish? how can they agree with Iran on the destuction of Israel and kill mayby thousands of fellow Jews? Shame on them.!!!!
52. Uzi and kick out
Roland ,   Jerusalem Israel   (03.13.06)
you say to kick these jews out.? jews who don't take from the state at all (the article said) while we let parasitic arab members of knesset travel to syria, preach the destruction of the state of israel and then return here as honored members of Knesset with diplomatic immunity?!?!
53. Bravo Neteuri Karta
Marlene N. ,   New York City   (03.14.06)
Bravo for not believing in Zionist ideologies which is nothing but pure racism as seen by how non-Jews are treated as second-class citizens in the Israeli state, and how Palestinians are so brutally treated under Israel's inhumane occupation.. There is no rule of law which supports Israel in carrying out these injustices against humanity, It is truly amazing that you are called "lunatics." while those who blatantly advocate ravcism at the highest levels are revered such as Ze'evo whose political platform was the transfer of Arabs. For those brave enough who spoke out against the injustices of the Nazis, they too were called traitors and went to their deaths.
54. Anti-Zionist Rabbi's
ben yosef ,   Albany USA   (03.15.06)
These czatscala Rabboni, are no different then, the mutenious bunch of LiBERAL,fasists tradtors, in the US,who blaim Israel, for the US involvment in Iraq. They too! Must be booted out of the USA. Their agaenda is cloked by their anti-zionist view which, is a MASK. for their cowardly Anti-Semitism.
55. Uzi and kick out
Jerry Meents ,   Ogden,Utah. USA   (03.14.06)
How about kicking out Neturei Karta and those parasite knesset members?
56. Bravo Nerturei Karta
Jerry Meents ,   Ogden,Utah. USA   (03.15.06)
He Marline how are non-Jews treated in Israel? I have been there and spoke with many non-Jews living in Israel and nobody complained and I also talked with Arab business people who were very happy getting rich. I was told by Christian Arabs that they were afraid to go to the west bank or Gaza bacause of the Moslem's anti Christian behavior. On Februari 24th 06 clerics were threatened and a church vandalized in Gaza, in Ramallah a firebomb was trown at a church. So who treat who? Under the Israeli inhumane occupation are people dying in Gas chambers? dying of hunger? dying of Typhus or medical experiments? hanging, beatings ect. ect. You have no notion of living under a occupation, I do. I would have traded the German occupation of Holland for a Israeli occupation any time. Why did you not give any xamples of the inhumane Israeli occupation? Or do you have only hearsay examples? O before I forget, those who were brave enough to speek agains the Nazi's did not ask for the distuction of there country, they wanted to save it.
57. To 56 in Utah
Marlene N. ,   New York City   (03.15.06)
Well I'm glad you've been to Israel but I Iived there so I am no stranger to Israeli racism,and non-Jews are second-class citizens,and unfortunately, this has been their way of life, and I refer mainly to the Palestinian Arab community. Now I suggest that if you don't know about the inhumane occupation, then start learing about it by reading some of Israel's own human rights groups such as B'tselem, or the Israeli Committee against Home Demolitions, or or Physicians for Human Rights. Christians are treated no differently than Muslims and are subjected to the same racist laws whch targets a person's identity. Do you think that an inhumane occupation only means that you have to physically die.? Educate yourself first about the occupation and then speak.
58. To 57 in New-York
Jerry Meents ,   Ogden,Utah. USA   (03.16.06)
Hello, I don't know were in Israel you lived but not in the parts I lived and have visited(and not for a few days) Hell you don,t even know what a occupation is let alone what a inhumane one is. I have been reading what those organisations you are talking about, so don't presume you are the only one. There are many Mormens and other Christians who lived and worked in Israel with out running in to those racist laws. Are you telling me that the Occupation of Gaza and the Westbank is or was diverend than the occuoation of Europe? Did all the occupied Country's in 1939-1945 attacked Germany? I know I should accept that all those peace loving Palestinians want to distroy Israel and that the Israeli's are barbarians, but I can't. I have seen a total diverend Israel than you. But it is the same story, two people live or visit a Country, visit the same places and talk to the same people and have both diverend opinions about there experiance.
59. Dorothy: tax free status
Gary ,   Akron, USA   (03.19.06)
Dororthy, NK might be justice-seekers and might be liars. You say America should remove tax-free status of NK. I say America should immediately HALT payments to Israel. Why should America pay Israel $3bn annually or more, more than it pays any US State? Why does America pay foreign aid to Israel AT ALL?! (most likely because the aid goes right back to US weapons contractors) I think it's a game to keep the Intifada going on permanently, killing Jews, killing Arabs, making a profit off destroying societies, by pitting them against one another, stoking sectarian hatred. If America stopped paying Israel, her govt would soon have to decide to compromise with her neighbors, old hatreds would decline, and people could begin to work and live. OR, her government would have to decide to nuke Arabs all over the ME to suppress dissent endlessly. What a gamble that would be! Talk about people forgetting about the Holocaust and mass death. Some people are at least attempting to make peace while others are stoking more hatred. Govt's and Intelligence Orgs are not to be trusted.
60. Marlene N[iincompoop]
Erica ,   Brooklyn, NY   (03.22.06)
Marlene, B"H I don't know where you live because if I did I'd break all your windows ... Anyone who thinks it's OKAY for Iran -- who would love nothing more than to obliterate the Jewish state -- to possess nukes, continue on with their dangerous nuclear program despite calls from the international community to discontinue it and then team up with the Anti-Zionist dumkops so they have "Jewish justification" for their cause should fall and break their face. In essence, you support suicide bombing, terrorism, genocide and mass murder. You, Rabbi Hirsch, Ahmadinejad (may your names be flushed with sewage into gehinnim) and all the other Jew haters of the world are no better than Hitler and Goerring (may they burn eternally). In fact, you're all quite the same, except you're a dirty disgusting hippie. The pulp of your misguided morals were obviously culled from a landfill; I don't know how you live with yourself.
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