So should the actions of the current Gov't against our brothers in Amona. The police acted like our worst enemies. There are vidio's showing yasamnikes wielding batons on defensless youngsters in a closed room. What about the expulsion of thousands of our brothers and sisters from the Gush. What about this current Gov't dehumanizing the settlers ??? Sorry these actions resemble the Natzis more then those so called rabbis going to tehran.

Zionists typically nitpick and kvetch about every little thing that negatively affects their beloved idol. But here's my question: Zionists have all the media, all the weapons, all the lobbies, all the money, all the organizations, rabbis and the Congress. Why do they get so hysterical over a relatively small group that refuses to bow to the idol? Why are Zionists like Haman, who had everything, but still could not be happy as long as Mordechai refused to bow to him. Just like Zionists.........

When most people witness an act of depravity, it is easy to conclude that the person or persons responsible are insane because psychopsis is a scientific fact whereas evil is a moral construct. Thus, when the president of Iran denies the holocaust and threatens to wipe Israel off of the map, mostpeople assume that he is crazy. Maybe he is but he, like Hitler, are talking about genocide and you don't have to be crazy in order to want to see an entire group of people exterminated. Most who advocate such depravity are simply evil just like those who see those of faiths other than their brand of Islam as inferior and liable for execution on the word of their religious authorities.The NK may be crazy but they are also despicable cretins who do not belong in Israel.

Including by non-Zionist and anti-Zionist groups(!): The umbrella group, comprised of Satmar, Bobov, Belz, Vizhnitz, Munkacz, Kiryas Joel, Monroe, and other communities - many of them openly and sharply critical of Zionism - termed the PLO sympathizers "evil associates of our enemies." The statement continued, "...their depiction in the local and international media in religious garb and prayer shawls marching arm-in-arm with Palestinian Jew-haters has besmirched the reputations of hundreds of thousands of decent Orthodox, hareidi and Hassidic Jews worldwide. Unfortunately this despicable minuscule group, who were ejected decades ago from our synagogues and communities for similar activities, do not accept or listen to the rulings of the leaders of our communities... They should under no circumstances, Heaven forbid, be associated with any recognized hareidi or Hassidic community... We hope and pray that these individuals will speedily realize the enormous damage they have caused to our communities and to the Jewish people at large with their evil undertakings, creating a major desecration of G-d's name on such a massive and unprecedented scale and repent for this terrible sin. Until that time they will continue to be unwelcome amongst Torah-observant Jews - who faithfully follow the teachings of their Rabbis - in all aspects of the private and communal lives." http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=22548

Yishai Cohen is apparently too dumb to know what constitutes excommunication. In the case he mentioned, there was no official stationery, no names of rabbis, no signatures and no names and addresses. But Yishai, can you answer my question?!

Thank you Leroy for making my point. Zionists, whether they be Jewish, Christian or Muslim can only engage in paranoid fear-mongering and argumentum ad hominem. Never do they deal with the substance of the issues. Typical.

While I have zero fondness for these people, there are far more anti Jewish/ antiIsrael Jews on the left- and they have no Jewish identity and are largely intermarried.

They are a handful of retards, good for nothing except to laugh at and make fun of. On the other hand, there are Beilin, Peres, Aloni, Meretz, Kadima--Neturei Karta in street clothes.

I already answered your question in http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3226600,00.html You scum.

I thought that was only possible in Catholicism. I've never heard of anyone being kicked out of the Jewish people, no matter how badly they behave.

Everyone knows that these enemies of the Jews were put in cheirem. Many lost jobs, nobody eats in their houses or counts them in a minyan, etc. Your blabbering can't change that. Logic- in Judaism, cheirem means declared persona non grata until they repent. And just so you know, there are actually very few who identify with NK, Boruch Hashem. Look at any protest where NK is present and you'll never see more than a handful of people.

exploit any and every resource in their vicious war against god and his tora then they can be fought in the same way

the secular state?

Haman was a Zionist? Have you started an early Purim?

who were the other three?

Morris, I assure you that you are very poorly informed. However, even if what you allege were true, this is not constitute a halachic cherem. But no matter. Call the NK in Jerusalem or others in New York or London, and they'll set you straight.

Take a look at the links to great photos from Iran, plus links to articles describing the trip. The English in certain articles is not the greatest, but the idea is there. The website is: www.nkusa.org.

If they were dressed like Olmert the Left wouldn't have complained and considered it as a Peace move. There is no difference between those guys with hats and Olmert-Beilin without hats. Similar ideology.

in all its forms, shapes and manifestations is the most ridiculous and dangerous idea ever invented by humankind. The living proof of this is apparent in the psycopathic manics that it produces in all " faiths ". The current one in charge in Teheran and the party of clowns dressed in funny clothes who visited him are all prime examples of how religion can warp and twist a persons mind, baruch goldstein ( no capitals intended ) was another, and throughout history all religions have produced them. With regard to excommunication they should be pronounced by all and sundry in Israel as "muktzim mehamat meus ", and also as far as the community in Israel is concerned, put on a plane with a one way ticket, passports and id cards taken from them and never allowed to enter Israel again, mehutz lagader forever.

Why do you think H"ZAL instituted this bracha? You don't like the state--who cares if some pathetic fools want to cut themselves off--talking to those who murder jews or want to restart the shoa that's another matter altoghether--keep Neuturei Karta in mind the next time you say the shomone esrei

that the following story as set below is not God inspired. Imagine after 2700 years:- From: David Frankfurter, Raanana: e-mail, David.Frankfurter@iname.com As Purim approaches, I thought I would share with you a heartwarming story of a unique Shabbaton held by our congregation in Ra'anana, Israel. Michael Freund, a leading member of our Synagogue, is also the chairman of Shavei Israel - an organization which looks after the descendants of lost Jewish communities around the world. One of these communities is the Bnei Menashe. The Bnei Menashe live in the mountains of East India, and their tradition tells that they are the descendants of the tribes of Menashe and Efraim - the sons of Joseph. Their folklore and songs tell of being taken out of Egyptian slavery, miraculously crossing the Red Sea and being led by the clouds of glory through the desert to the land of Israel. Exiled with the destruction of the first temple, they traveled from Babylon through Afghanistan and China. In China they were once again enslaved. These people are builders; first the pyramids, then the Great Wall. They escaped persecution into India, settling in the states of Manipur and Mizoram. Although their last Torah scrolls were destroyed by the Chinese, and most of their Jewish traditions have been lost over time, until eighty or so years ago, there were still hereditary priests amongst them who performed sacrifices - including one known in their own language as "Passover", where the sacrifice was consumed without breaking the bones and blood was smeared on the doorposts. Sound familiar? So do many of the Bnei Menashe stories. With the British, Christian Missionaries came to India. Their bible stories rang a chord with the Bnei Menashe, who assumed that this was the religion they had "lost", converting en-masse to Christianity. Some years ago, one of their leaders had a dream, in which he was told that it was time to return to their true "lost" religion, Judaism, and be reunited with their brethren in the holy land of Zion. A small minority joined this vision, and sought contact with Israel and their fellow Jews. The path was not easy, but today, thanks to the work of Shavei Israel, there are operating Synagogues, Jewish schools, and other facilities. The Chief Rabbinate of Israel has recognized them as "Descendants of Israel", and facilitates their formal conversion to normative Judaism. The Bnei Menashe number around 7,000 today - and about 1,000 have made Aliya and realizing their new-old dream of integrating into Israeli society. Michael enlisted our congregation, and 35 families hosted around one hundred of the Bnei Menashe in Israel, and for us, the Shabbat was inspiring. A relaxing Shabbat "away" for these new Olim, with an opportunity to meet and relax with friends living in different places around the country also offered our community an amazing experience; learning their songs, listening to their words of Torah and joining their serious approach to prayer. They are an unbelievably warm and happy people, whose simple belief in the divine hand which has brought them to Israel can teach us all. After 2,700 years of wandering, they have come home. As if the miracle of what the State of Israel has become in such a short time after the Holocaust was not enough, the Bnei Menashe are further living proof of our stake in the land of Israel and that the Guardian of Israel has not forgotten his promise to us. More information about the Bnei Menashe and the work of Shavei Israel in communities of lost Jews around the word can be found at www.shavei.org. Happy Purim! David Frankfurter, Raanana: e-mail, David.Frankfurter@iname.com

Yes, and its called a "Herem" and its kinda similar to the catholic excommunication. There are many rules regarding the imposition of a Herem in the Talmud, and were usually reserved for severe violations of Jewish law that endangered the Jewish community. I would defintely list Neturei Karta as a candidate for Herem

Dovy just because you dress like an orthodox jew does not mean you are one. Most secular jews are tinok shenishbas and not responsible for their actions - since they were not brought up biderech hatorah - you dovy where tought torah and about your creator - yet you spit on your creater and the jewish nation - your actions are below the level of the worst reshaim of jewish history . In the time of Homon - we do not learn of jews who supported his cause - but you neturei karta holocaust deniers - support todays modern days homons in persia/iran. All the gedolim including the satmar and munkacz consider you to be apikorsim and mosrim. In my view there are no jews lower then the secular neturei karta - and they are secular - they ignore the gedolei yisroel - they seek to cause the deaths of millions of jews in eretz yisroel and they are friends of the worst anti-semites in the world. your gehenom will make the gehenom of all the secular zionists you despise appear to be disneyland compared to what is waiting for you. bzman hazeh - the 19th bracha of shemona esrei vilamalshinim al tehi tikva - can refer only to neturei karta I stronly suggest that the next time neturei karta or their affiliates asks for donations for their mosdos - they be denied - then again they do not need the money as they are well financed by Hamas and Iran

three points 1) Neturei karta - kissing up to the world's jew haters (i.e. Iran, hamas, etc) will not save you - when they decide to wipe us off the map. historically lemmings like you where treated worse then jews who did not stab their brothers in the back for personal gain 2) how much PA or Iran money is funding neturei karta ? 3) is the attention you are getting from iran and the holocaust deniers worth losing your chelek in olam haba ?

neturei karta are not crazy - they are evil and wicked - in the heavenly court - there is no liberal insanity defense - neturei karta will be punished by G-D

dovy - you have no gedolim to rely on - your shitas have no basis whatever in torah - atleast the zionists have their gedolim to rely on - but your have nobody - see below The umbrella group, comprised of Satmar, Bobov, Belz, Vizhnitz, Munkacz, Kiryas Joel, Monroe, and other communities - many of them openly and sharply critical of Zionism - termed the PLO sympathizers "evil associates of our enemies." The statement continued, "...their depiction in the local and international media in religious garb and prayer shawls marching arm-in-arm with Palestinian Jew-haters has besmirched the reputations of hundreds of thousands of decent Orthodox, hareidi and Hassidic Jews worldwide. Unfortunately this despicable minuscule group, who were ejected decades ago from our synagogues and communities for similar activities, do not accept or listen to the rulings of the leaders of our communities... They should under no circumstances, Heaven forbid, be associated with any recognized hareidi or Hassidic community... We hope and pray that these individuals will speedily realize the enormous damage they have caused to our communities and to the Jewish people at large with their evil undertakings, creating a major desecration of G-d's name on such a massive and unprecedented scale and repent for this terrible sin. Until that time they will continue to be unwelcome amongst Torah-observant Jews - who faithfully follow the teachings of their Rabbis - in all aspects of the private and communal lives."

How could these madmen do this..? Something must be done about them.