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Haniyeh: We want '67 borders state
Ali Waked
Published: 27.03.06, 14:52
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1. Then why did Hamas have to send all those homicide bombers?
Alan ,   South Africa   (03.27.06)
2. MECCA IS HOLY TO MUSLIMS; JERUSALEM IS HOLY TO THE JEWS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (03.27.06)
There NEVER was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. At the time of Muhammad's death, there was not a single mosque in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is mentioned over 800 times in the Bible, not once in the Koran. Muslims pray facing Mecca. It is Muslim practice to take over, desecrate and destroy the holy sites of other religions-Jews, Christians, Bhuddists, Hindus... The Muslims build mosques on top of the holy sites of other religions to signify that their religion is superior to all others. Muslims did this on the Temple Mount. During the time Jordan controlled Jerusalem from 1948-1967, no foreign Arab leaders visited Jerusalem. Jordanian radio broadcast Friday prayers not from Al-Aqsa Mosque, but from a mosque in Amman. Jordan destroyed 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. Jordan's army desecrated the 2,500 year old Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives. Jordan used Jewish tombstones for pavement and latrines. Jordan must be made to make full financial restitution for the 58 synagogues Jordan destroyed; destruction of the cemetery on the Mount of Olives and all of the destruction Jordan wrought in holy Jewish east Jerusalem. All land, homes and buildings seized in the 1948 Islamic invasion of Judea, Samaria and Jewish east Jerusalem must be returned to Jews immediately. 13th Century Arab Muslim biographer Yakut, noted: "Mecca is holy to Muslims; Jerusalem is holy to the Jews."
4. Linda Lies
Atmawi ,   Palestine   (03.27.06)
Did you read Qura'an to be that sure that Jerusalem (Al_Quds) never been mentioned in Qura'an? Do you know that Muslims used to pray towards AL-Quds as start of Islam? What about our fello citezens, The christians? Don't they have a holy place in Jerusalem? Where in the hell you learned this kind of fake History? NY!
5. Israel can't break our willing
Martyre ,   Gaza   (03.27.06)
Israel can make the necessary to fail government of Hamas ,but surly will not be able to break willing of people who choose Hamas to lead them .
6. He wants peace?
Ram ,   London   (03.27.06)
He declares "We shall not forget you. Your sacrifice will not be in vain. We will do everything in order for you to walk free and join us in our construction project," He is addressing murdering terrorists in Israeli jails!! For heaven's sake Olmert & Co. If this is not a threat he is making of an outright declaration of his intentions to kill more Jews than what is! Give these guys an ultimatum to get their act right. Failure to comply should follow by some serious a** whipping. It will be be deemed self defence not aggression! Stop Hamas from brainwashing the West!
7. Response to Linda of New York (post 2)
Abdullah ,   Kuwait City   (03.27.06)
If you repeat this Zionist Mantra another 3873698219870327723467 times it will become a reality, or perhaps to you at least it will be a believable lie :-)
8. #4 ISLAMO-FASCIST HATE and RAGE against Israel's G-D
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (03.27.06)
In the 1948 Islamic invasion, Jordan destroyed 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. Since 1996, Rachel's Tomb, near Bethlehem, has been attacked by Muslim snipers, bombs and Molotov cocktails. In October 2000, Muslims torched and destroyed the ancient synagogue in Jericho. In 2005 in Jewish Gaza, Muslims destroyed the synagogues where G-D was honored and exalted. Hamas flags flew from synagogue roofs as synagogues burned. Joseph is the beloved Bible hero of Jews and Christians. Muslims murdered IDF soldiers at Joseph's Tomb. Muslim mobs BURNED BIBLES and Jewish prayer books that gave praise and glory to the One great G-D, and destroyed the Tomb. In the Islamic invasion and filthy desecration of Jesus Christ' birthplace, Church of Nativity, BIBLES were TORN UP for TOILET PAPER. Inscribed in the Bibles are the Laws G-D gave to Moses; the Laws our Western civilization is founded on: Exodus 20: "You shall not murder" "You shall not commit adultery" "You shall not steal" "You shall not bear false witness" "You shall not covet" Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death" Leviticus 24:17 "If a man takes the life of any human being, he shall surely be put to death" Global Islamofascists seek the total destruction of Western civilization. JERUSALEM is MENTIONED OVER 800 TIMES in the BIBLE, not once in the Koran. G-D designated the Temple Mount to the Jews for His worship and prayer only. Muslims on the Temple Mount repeatedly engage in massive rock throwing at Jews, turning the HOLIEST place on earth into a common place of violence! Muslims have perpetrated massive desecration and destruction at Judaism's HOLIEST site, the Temple Mount. The OFFENSE to G-D is ENORMOUS! The Temple Mount must be returned to its Jewish owners immediately!
9. Atmawi Lies
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (03.27.06)
I have read the Quran and the word "Jerusalem" is not found there AT ALL. If you still claim that it does, then tell us all which sura. And whether you ONCE prayed towards Jerusalem is irrelevant: Today, your backsides are towards MY city. As to the Christians, they have fared FAR better under Jewish rule than they do under Muslim rule. Come to think of it, the same goes for Muslims. If you want fake history, then study your own "history" of "Palestine": "The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem", by Daniel Pipes PhD (Middle East Quarterly Fall 2001) Politics, not religious sensibility, has fueled the Muslim attachment to Jerusalem for nearly fourteen centuries; what the historian Bernard Wasserstein has written about the growth of Muslim feeling in the course of the Countercrusade applies through the centuries: "often in the history of Jerusalem, heightened religious fervour may be explained in large part by political necessity." This pattern has three main implications. First, Jerusalem will never be more than a secondary city for Muslims; "belief in the sanctity of Jerusalem," Sivan rightly concludes, "cannot be said to have been widely diffused nor deeply rooted in Islam." Second, the Muslim interest lies not so much in controlling Jerusalem as it does in denying control over the city to anyone else. Third, the Islamic connection to the city is weaker than the Jewish one because it arises as much from transitory and mundane considerations as from the immutable claims of faith. http://www.danielpipes.org/articles/article.php?id=84
10. Question to Josh of Jerusalem (post 3)
Abdullah ,   Kuwait City   (03.27.06)
And how far do you think Israel should be dragging its feet for and for how long? Before it is time for it to make a final peace? You and I and everyone on the face of the planet knows that establishing an independent Palestinians State on lands less the entire occupied territories since the 1967 4 day war will be impossible?! Voting Bibi while is a quick solution but its by no means a long term solution to the crises at hand! I think any party whoever Israeli or Palestinian who is not willing to start a meaningful and serious negotiation based on the 1967 borders is just unpractical and is a complete waste of time and efforts! I say for the sake of stopping the bloodshed on both sides vote for a party who is serious about making a real and long lasting peace. Peace.
11. Nr 7.
thr ,   prs   (03.27.06)
If you ever did your homework on world religions you would know Jlem belongs to the jews only. Read the Torah and find out.
12. #5 lol, u bet we can
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13. #4 You are wrong
gm ,   south africa   (03.27.06)
Muslims might have prayed to Jerusalem at the start of Islam, but do they pray east now?? no they pray west, to mecca, so Linda is not wrong. Christians have a hooly place in Bethlehem, where Jesus is said to be born and they have churches in Jerusalem, but we weren't discussing christianity, so AGAIN linda is not wrong. In terms of Jerusalem not being in the Koran, i can't say because i haven't read it, but don't say someone is wrong, when you don't argue her points and come up with completely different issues. Stick to the same topic!!! Also Haniyeh is wrong. Arafat wasn't a martyr, he was a homosexual dying of AIDS. Why don't muslim coutries give back land to Jewish landowners? Jews used to own land in Syria, Iraq, Iran .... why don't your leaders do what you would like Israel to do? Oh, i forgot, this is a one-sided give-and-take agreement. Israel gives and the arabs take - no partnership!!
14. # 9 what you said is pollshit
Hamed ,   Gaza   (03.27.06)
Stop your pullshit, and stop lying. You can not lie in front of all peolpe all the time. If you think that you read Quran then go to ALISRA Sura and you will find the Jerusalem and Alaqsa Mosque are mentioned many times. You can not learn us our religion.
15. Well said Yishai
gm ,   south africa   (03.27.06)
Yishai, you hit the nail on the head. We can't have people posting lies and rewriting history to further their own agenda. To Abdullah, if only your leaders were reasonable people, we might be able to deal better, but to negotiate through suicide bombings makes it difficult. Arafat was given almost 100% of the '67borders by ehud barak, so by right we can say it was a waste of time to deal with him. What about your current leaders. I do, however, respect your words as i believe you are sincere, thank you.
16. Too late!
(03.27.06)
Now it's Israel's turn to miss opportunities!
17. #4 & #10
Gadi ,   Special Unit, IDF   (03.27.06)
israel did always everything for peace, and everytime both sides agreed on a ceasfire, a "palestinian" makes BOOOM and 10 israelis die in a bus, mall, night club, etc. please don't come up with such bullshit, people know the truth dude. after 6mio dead, we don't ask the people living in our land if we can come, we take it because it's ours. first, the jews of the holocaust wanted to live together with the arabs in israel, my granddad told me everything. but the arabs didn't want that (actually it's a longer story, but ill make it brief). so my granddad joined the jewish underground movement to assassinate the arab leaders then atime, with success. then the jews told the arabs to move out of the land (24 hours time) or they would be killed. if it was the other way around, we would be killed right away. 6mio killed by nazis, do you realy think we care about some thousand of yours in our defence? dude i tell you, i was in a special unit to kill terrorists like you, i'd do anything to prevent giving jerusalem or a part of it. go to mecca, or we will take a part of it too, how about that. palys will die out soon if they wont recognize israel as it is. stop thinking you are something strong and that you can "handle" us... ur all sad jokes. you can say thank you that we don't push any forbidden buttons and erase all islam in 1 hour. u mofos are so funny. u get water, electricity, work, everything from us. you own 99.9% of the middle east but it's not enough for your greedy asses. what a shame of a culture. and before you mofos dare answer to this, watch these first: http://www.seconddraft.org/streaming/pallywood.wmv http://www.seconddraft.org/streaming/aldurah.wmv
18. kadima
ben hirschler ,   israel   (03.27.06)
This is perfect! Haniyeh demands exactly what kadima is offering, olmert and haniyeh can govern israel on a rotation basis, haniyeh will govern and olmert can go rotate like a kugelager
19. A Masked Attempt at Recognition of Israel
Shimon Z. Klein ,   Bat Chefer, Israel   (03.27.06)
There does seem to be some softening of Hamas’s stand towards Israel without declaring it. There are preliminary attempts at climbing down the tree of non-recognition. Perhaps Ismail Haniya is showing signs of pragmatism without conceding to the necessity of negotiations. This could be a very tentative step that should be viewed with very cautious optimism despite the fact that Hamas has still a long way to go before a stage of trust building measures could be initiated. On the positive side there is a definite toning down of anti-Israel rhetoric on their part. Time will tell if this is a beginning of something parallel to the period preceding the Oslo Accords of 1993 when the situation between the Palestinians and Israelis was similar.
20. We too want the 67´ borders.
Uziel   (03.27.06)
In 1.967 the borders moved just once. In fact the terrorist is talking about the 49´ cease-fire lines also known as the "Holocaust border"....it´s only that he´s hiding his true intentions from the Israeli electorate. If the fakestinians succeed to persuade the Israelis in this, we don´t deserve a state. Not as seculars, not as religious.
21. The words are a little different,but the Music is the same.
Alan ,   South Africa   (03.27.06)
22. Response to sad Gadi (post 17)
Abdullah ,   Kuwait City   (03.27.06)
Well thanks to admitting to killing Arabs by the hand of your grand terrorist of a grand father! When I am talking about Israel, I am talking about sane people of Israel, and you may count your self out! When peace comes and Israel withdraws like it did in South Lebanon and Gaza, people like you will have to live with the facts at hand or choose to commit suicide and do the human race a favor ;-) Shalom cousin Gadi
23. 7Abdullah: name 1 Muslim country that is NOT a basket case
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.27.06)
since you are part of it - I know you will not answer But this is interesting - there are just a few Arabs who woke up: http://tinyurl.com/dl2dm
24. land
ely ,   usa   (03.27.06)
Bat the land must not be sold beyond reclaim,for the land is Mine;you are but strangers resident with Me.Throughout the land that you hold,you must provide for the redemption of the land. Lleviticus 25:23
25. #4 Muslims don't protest against JIHAD SLAVERY and GENOCIDE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (03.27.06)
Bible, Leviticus 24:17 "If a man takes the life of any human being, he shall surely be put to death" Black Africans are the indigenous people of Sudan and are the majority population. The black Southern Sudanese Christians explain what "peace" means: If you agree to become a Muslim, you will have peace. If you reject Islam, you are at war. From 1955-1973, 1.5 million Christians were slaughtered by the Arab Muslim government in Khartoum. From 1983-2005, two million more Christians died from Khartoum's jihad. Murdering infidels is not considered a crime. Non-Muslim infidels are regarded as not entitled to human rights. Hundreds of thousands of Christians have been raped. Hundreds of thousands of Christian children taken for slaves. In the refugee camps, the Khartoum government requires refugees to become Muslims in order to receive food and water. The genocide has resulted in the largest population of refugees on earth since the Second World War. The jihad in Sudan against Darfur's black African Muslims by Khartoum's racist Arab Muslim regime began in 2003. 75,000 black Muslims are dead. STOP Genocide - STOP Slavery - FREE the Slaves http://www.iheu.org/node/1538/print http://www.iheu.org/node/1539/print http://www.iabolish.org/ Bible, Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death"
26. Hamed: What I Said Is TRUTH
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (03.27.06)
Surat Al-Isra (Arabic: سورة الإسراء ) (ie The Night Journey) is the 17th sura of the Qur'an . Here is a copy from an ISLAMIC web site: http://www.submission.org/suras/sura17.htm Show us the word "Jerusalem" in YOUR sura. You can't because it isn't there. Gee, I'm shocked.
27. Name just 1 Arab country that is not a basket case
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.27.06)
Yet they think they make the world turn around They couldn't have taken their oil of their ground if the western world would not have givem the technology and the know how They surpress their people - esp. women Their only expost is oil and terrorism
28. Watch reality: http://tinyurl.com/dl2dm
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.27.06)
http://tinyurl.com/dl2dm The Mindset of Terrorists
29. Even tthe longest journey starts with one step
Ilan ,   Ariel   (03.27.06)
'67 borders are only a way station. The next step will be a return to Israel's legal borders as decided in the UN Partition plan in 1948. No one outside of Israel recognizes the armistice lines as legal and final.
30. To 26
Hamed   (03.27.06)
Search For: 17 - English / Muhammad Asad Baset - Hussari - Minshawi 17:1 LIMITLESS in His glory is He who transported His servant by night from the Inviolable House of Worship [at Mecca] to the Remote House of Worship [,at Jerusalem] - the environs of which We had blessed [1] -so that We might show him some of Our symbols: for, verily, He alone is all-hearing, all-seeing. [2] Topics discussed in this Verse: [Allah's attributes:Hears all things] [Allah's attributes:Sees all things] [Allah's signs] [Farthest Mosque] [Kabah] [Masjid al Aqsa:Masjid al Aqsa'] [Masjid al Haram] [Mosques] [Muhammad:Nightjourney and Miiraj] Subhana allathee asra biAAabdihi laylan mina almasjidi alharami ila almasjidi alaqsa allathee barakna hawlahu linuriyahu min ayatina innahu huwa alssameeAAu albaseeru سُبْحَانَ الَّذِي أَسْرَى بِعَبْدِهِ لَيْلاً مِّنَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ إِلَى الْمَسْجِدِ الأَقْصَى الَّذِي بَارَكْنَا حَوْلَهُ لِنُرِيَهُ مِنْ آيَاتِنَا إِنَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ البَصِيرُ http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/ Quran is in Arabic and not English. Jerusalem means in Arabic Bait Almaqdes, and it exists alot in Quran and Hadeeth too
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