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Petition: Gaza shelling illegal
Tal Rosner
Published: 16.04.06, 17:03
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1. And not one word of qassams WANTONLY shot at civilians!
Arie   (04.16.06)
There is no issue of "russian roulette" here. It is an issue of a needed military response. If an enemy is willing to use its civilian population as "human shields" for terrorism, an enemy FREELY elected by that very same civilian population, they have no cause t complain about an apropos response. As the old saying goes - don't start a battle unless you are willing to face the consequences In the PA case, they feel they can wantonly attack Israeli civilians at their whim, and then go whining to the world when we respond. If the residents of the northern strip of the Gaza don't want to be in harm's way any longer, they can either demand that their OWN leadership move the launchers, they can resist the launchers being there (as a very few families have done, or they can move. It was their choice by the election to have the launchers there - it is our RIGHT to protect ourselves against that choice
2. makes me want to vomit
meni ,   beersheva   (04.16.06)
the job of the israeli govt and idf is to protect israeli citizens. if there is a choice between the lives of israeli and palestinian citizens, then obviously the answer is clear. the job of palestinian govt (ie hamas) is to protect palestinian citizens. the answer to them is also clear.
3. Human Shields
David ,   Jerusalem   (04.16.06)
Those firing missiles into Israel are using Palestinian civilians as human shields. Who is to blame. Should the army not retaliate? The army should give fair warning to get out of the area and then drop a thousand pound bomb on the launch sites.
4. of course
mordy   (04.16.06)
who cares about Jewish lives? Jews could be shot at freely and cannot shoot back. a Deja Vu...
5. WAR CRIMES
Nick ,   Los Angeles, USA   (04.16.06)
6. How fast was I firing officer?
Yoel Ariel ,   moving about   (04.16.06)
Cop: "Hey. You. " Soldier:"Who? Me." Cop:"Yeah. You with the 155mm artillary piece." Soldier:"What? Look. I got to shoot this thing at babies, elderly women and pregnant Muslim ladies. I'm in a time crunch thingy here officer." Cop:"I dont care. Rules are rules and Laws are at work here". "Gimme yer license for that noisemaker". Soldier: "It's here somewhere". "Look. I'll show it to you later. Check with the major over there, OK?" Cop:"No license to operate that cannon huh". "Well I'm giving you a ticket." Soldier:"is'nt there someway we can work this out?" Cop:"You offering an officer of the Mishtarah a bribe? Are you Huh?" Soldier: "Sorry Officer. It's just that I'm trying to respond to the Quassam rockets and we are not doing so good." "Sorry I insulted you." Cop:"What insult. How much are we talking here?" Move along. Nothing to see here.
7. you'll never see petitions against palestinian terror
mike ,   usa   (04.16.06)
so just disregard these people.
8. Nick The crazy kid is here again has mum let you come here
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (04.16.06)
9. IDF shooting too close
bob ,   Israel   (04.16.06)
Perhaps petitioners and Attorney Michael Sfarad may be right for what they ask . I think that before arriving to a verdict if IDF acts in a correct way or not by approaching their shootings, this well intended attorney and those human rights defenders should be living and risking their lives for one month in the Israeli areas where kassams are permanently falling. And if a kassam falls very near their bodies, demand from the terrorists not to shoot that close. Then and only then they will have the right to confront IDF military actions.
10. 8 Gabrielle Goldstein, your father Baruch would approve
(04.16.06)
Atta girl!
11. IDF should start firing qassamas!
(04.16.06)
So they can say qassamas are illegal! lol
12. ask the petitioners
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.16.06)
what do they suggest. Ask them too, how many meters from the dining room fell the last rocket:100 meters or less? Ask them if the ethic code they are aplying from IDF is the same used for the enemies? I would like to read a reportage with these people, that live inside Israel, and have been defending the rights of palestians trying to kill Jews. I want to understand what goes in their minds. I want to understand if they have suggestions and what are these suggestions. I want to understand what has driven them to these kind of attitudes;are there political goals,which are this goals if so? I really want to understand because otherwise seems to me that madness and delusioness is taking over the minds of a parcel from Israel's society.
13. Re# 12
Jon   (04.16.06)
Because simply Israel is occupying power and whenevre U have occupation U'll find people fight for their freedom. If U think that Israel polled out of Gaza for peace, then U are ignorant, they simply escaped because they want to minimize the losses among their terrorsit soliders.
14. Re#2 Makes me want to urine!!!
Observer   (04.16.06)
Your answer is lacking the minimal amount of common sence. I assume that U are talking about two fiendly countries and U forget that U are all a punch of thieves who stole the land from its owners and U want them(Palestinians) to put their heads in sand and wait your shells..Wake up baby, all international laws are permitting people under occupation to screw up the occupant!!!
15. what if
ss   (04.16.06)
if israel withdrew forces from occupied territories, i believe hamas may stop, what do u think? not coz they want to but coz of civilian pressure.
16. No standing by "petitioners" to bring suit
(04.16.06)
Lost in the discussion of how the Israeli justice system allows petitions for no standing (no injury to the plaintiffs, past, present, and future) which allows the courts to be judicially active in imposing their left wing agenda on the Israeli public.
17. i agree
ss ,   ind   (04.16.06)
i 100% agree that palestinians have the right to fight back. but this is certainly not a way that could ever yeild any result!!.its a deadlock of violence and the victims r the minds and bodies of souls which had the bad luck of being born there, knowing nothing of what religion they are of. fighting from behind the sheild of innocent pile of bodies is cowardness. if u really want to fight back then u should have the guts to let go. u eat israels electricity its food its water, u work in isreal and u also want to bomd it. if ur an indipendent country y u depend on an enemy country to survive. if u want to fight then survive by urself. build ur country, u dont have a country to give independence.
18. Sign right here Herr Leutnant
Yoel Ariel ,   gone   (04.16.06)
Dear ss (#15) I think that is maybe the stupidest offers I have seen lately. They (Hamas) do not respond to their civilian pressure.They shoot it dead. However, your suggestion of Israel withdrawering from the "occupied territories" is certainly a novel and fresh idea. Better yet. Do you think Hamas, Jihad Islami and the other pranksters would go for it if Israel packed up and moved to Ukraine? How's about Poland? Poland anyone? Here's a little idea of my own. Israel bombs, shells and does all kinds of nasty stuff to all of the Pally population centers; cuts off their water, light, food and sewage and blockades them from the land, sea and air until they learn some manners and civility or until they make a decision to play well with others or find better quarters in a less hostile (to them) neighborhood. If in charge I would make the U.N.cry and the socialist International gnash it's tooth (singular). I can hear France, Belgium, Germany and the other buttwipes of the EU wail now.
19. PLEASE NUMBER 14 ENLIGHTEN US
I hate leftists   (04.16.06)
WHO IS OCCUPYING THE GAZA STRIP, NO, TELL US, WE WANT TO KNOW.
20. It can't be simpler than that...
Jonathan ,   Tel Aviv   (04.16.06)
If they don't shoot -> IDF won't shoot. What's there to think/talk/discuss about it ? I don't understand these petitioners. Shame on you.
21. At the END all the muslims and jews will be exterminated!
Armageddon   (04.16.06)
22. Not an issue for the court
sk ,   USA   (04.16.06)
This whole "distances" court case would be tossed out without comment in a real democracy, as the court would not meddle with Executive prerogatives. A court that did meddle would risk the legislature restricting its areas of jurisdiction.
23. Re# 19
Jon   (04.16.06)
Israel is controlling all movement of goods to/from Gaza. U are making abig deal out of Gaza, U do not mention that Gaza is only 1.5% of all Palestine and has more than 1.2 M stacked of there.If U want peace go out of all the West Bank and Jerusalem and then see if any body gonna fire one bullet.However, I have a peace of mind that Israel will never ever do it, this why that this conflict is an open end one...
24. To Jon #13
Josh ,   Jerusalem   (04.16.06)
I would have to say that you're the ignorant one, definitely not Keren. Israel is not an occupying force because it does not occupy any sovereign state. A sovereign state is a country which is recognized as so by the UN and the Palestinians have refused this recognition three times. Therefore, Israel is DEFENDING its citizens against terror in DISPUTED TERRITORY. And don't give me that crap about fighting for their freedom. Freedom is the personal security of civilians to do what they chose without fear of harm, or in this case being blown up over an afternoon coffee. Terrorists fighting for freedom is an ignorant oxymoron because how can you violate the very thing that you're fighting for? Very hypocritical, don't you think? And lastly, your thought process is so similar to the terrorists' thought process it's ridiculous. The reason that the IDF left Gaza was based on the crazy notion that starting to implement the plan that the Palestinians have been ranting and raving about for 39 years would actually appease them. They've been asking for us to leave so, even under constant terrorism that they swore time and again they would abolish, we left. Israel was trying once again to appease the Palestinians, NOT TO ESCAPE and run away like Hamas and other terrorists proclaim to their followers. Look where that got us. Hamas came to power and al-Qaida and Islamic Jihad came to town. You need to understand that terrorist ideology, radical Islam, calls for a genocide of the Jewish people. They do not want '67 boders, they want dead Jews. You can see this in the Hamas charter, the PLO charter, the PA charter, Bin Laden's statements, Iran's declarations and anti-Semitic rhetoric, and many other places. When will you get it?
25. Awake
kjamal ,   nablus,palestine   (04.16.06)
Alas to read your responses, instead of urging your government to respect palestinian rights of their land and destiney , you just invlove yourselves in occupation details. EVERY action against israeli people is against occupation and therfore it is LEGAL, leave us , go a way and admit our rights and live free respectfull neigbers, this is the case, NO ONE CAN LIVE HAPPY WHILE HIS NEIGBER IS SUFFERING FROM HIM. AWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEE
26. HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPSwho DON'T CONSIDER MURDER OF JEWS ILLEGAL
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (04.16.06)
Jews are not safe in Muslim areas around the world. Muslims live and walk in safety in Israel, and Jewish areas around the world. These human rights groups do not attempt to stop Islam's continual hate incitement to murder and non-stop terror attacks against Infidel Jews - victims of global jihad. Human rights groups support an Islamic terror state in the Biblical heartland ethnically cleansed of the hated Infidel Jews. Cognizant the Islamo-Fascist intent of such a state is a second holocaust of Jews. Arab Muslim children and adults train in terrorist training camps. Ambulances transport terrorists, weapons, and bombs. Stabbings, shootings, fire-bombings, stonings, drive-by shootings, bombs planted, grenade attacks, rocket and mortar attacks, lynchings, human bomb murder attacks. A very murderous PA society supported by human rights groups, American and European tax dollars, are united in conquering all Israel for Islam - a major goal of global jihad. The raison d'etre of the genocidal PA society is the mass murder of Jewish innocents. Palestinian Authority society are taught murdering Jews is the highest goal in life and attains paradise: http://www.pmw.org.il/AFD.html
27. Qassam Rockets are also illegal!
Drew ,   AZ, US   (04.16.06)
28. # 13 jon,don't talk to me ,because you are an idiot
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.16.06)
that I have been observing!
29. Hey kjamal - you're right - AWAKE!!!
JPS ,   Israel   (04.16.06)
Wake up Kjamal and smell the coffee! But get ready to go to jail because you and your buddies have no "legal" "right" to kill. Not only are you wrong, but the left-wing Palestinian loving experts agree. Read this quote from Amnesty International: "The attacks against civilians by Palestinian armed groups are widespread, systematic and in pursuit of an explicit policy to attack civilians. They therefore constitute crimes against humanity under international law. They may also constitute war crimes..." Read the whole ugly truth here: http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-isr/reports&start=31 and if you don't like it, then go to Human RIghts Watch, because they say the exact same thing! Firing Kassam rockets at civilians is illegal, it is crimes against humanity and most likely war crimes.
30. Yoel # 18
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.16.06)
This is the right idea!Israelis should start doing petitions to CUT all palestians benefits! It is simply ridiculous Israel to suply them,for free,with water,light,food...This is the real absurd:suply people that desire to eliminate you! Let them do what they need by them selves ,those incompetent ones! And some enviers in this site-yes,enviers-can complain as much as they want,because they are the same incompetents ,which the only capacity is hang here around showing their shallowness. I want to see if one of these idiots have the guts to go to help palestians.Of course not,they are too cowards for it!
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