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9 killed in Tel Aviv blast
Avi Cohen
Published: 17.04.06, 20:59
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121. #85
kapara   (04.17.06)
you are a moron.
122. Sorry #114 is also meant for #87
Ram ,   London   (04.17.06)
123. goldwater #101
Marvin Goldfarb ,   Brooklyn, NY   (04.17.06)
You don't have to worry. You're safe in your little canton, growing fat on your hot chocolate, while inciting violence against Palestinians. You are beneath contempt.
124. #89 Farouk Yes, we do have different definitions of morality
AK   (04.17.06)
Be civilized in your talkbacks It is impossible to be civilized to people who do not act civilized. You want to be treated with respect, don’t blow people up, and don’t shoot up babies in their cribs at point blank. AK innocent people die every day in the Palestinian areas, you may be too far to see that or to closed-minded to admit it, but yes they are targeted intentionally What do you call a checkpoint between two remote west bank cities? What do you call a person who considers blowing up people to bits on a par with a checkpoint? Deluded? Lacking a moral compass, so brainwashed that they’re capable to explain and excuse any atrocity? All of the above. No, no normal person could possibly equal checkpoints, even unreasonable ones, which obviously those are not, with a deliberate murder and maiming of random people, total strangers, solely because they’re Jews. But somehow, you have no problems with rationalizing murder. checkpoint that is insignificant to Israel's security is it ...may be punishment to a civilian population there? People have died and will continue to die at checkpoints. Considering the fact that you Arabs daily try to infiltrate Israel to blow up people, I wouldn’t call those checkpoints insignificant to the Israeli security – to the contrary, they are crucial. Stop terrorism and the checkpoints will not be necessary. What you are basically doing is accusing a victim of trying to protect himself. That’s right, Israelis are the victims. As to the Arab deaths suffered because of the checkpoints, are you referring to the individuals being shot because they tried and often succeeded to knife the soldiers manning the checkpoint, or to those who tried to blow the soldiers up, and were shot, or perhaps those cars that tried to run the checkpoint, without stopping? Or perhaps you are referring to the fact that the Israelis are stopping the ambulances, after it has been definitively proved that the ambulances were being used to transport weapons and terrorists? Imagine, how dare the Israelis protect themselves. AK we both Israelis and Palestinians have had our share in murdering innocent civilians. But many unlike you do not have different definitions of innocence (us and them) nor justify wrong acts by feelings of righteousness. Again, we kill and they kill civilians equally, except we don’t read about concerted effort by the Israelis to blow up Arab in restaurants, markets, bus stations, do we? You sound so reasonable, so well trained in your propaganda, that you so deftly skip that tiny bit about your newly elected government’s promise to drink Jewish blood. Skipped your mind, did it? And we, with our self-righteousness insisting that the statement quite obviously indicates that the hamas and all those who voted them in are beyond the pale. Yes, we do have a different definitions of innocence and we are quite proud f it.
125. #87
Tony Cash ,   Croatia   (04.17.06)
Isn't it customary for a bomber families to throw some kind of a party for a "job well done" a recieve congrats from all the neighbours? Bomber is a product of household upbringing so the household deserves to be trashed. Like West knows anything...and cares. I live in the part of Europe which was not so long ago blessed by the "Western knowledge" of who is right and who is wrong. Some youth even here wear those palestinian scarfs ( kafijah or something ) and Che Guevara T-shirts cause it's " cool " to be anti-American and anti-Israeli and some even support that nutcase called iranian president. Ten other Madrids and Londons will not awake the western Europe to see the truth.
126. IDF and Civilians
Maital   (04.17.06)
Are you people brainwashed or retarded or both? Of course the IDF targets civilians...Any time you "target a terrorist" who you KNOW lives among innocent people, you are intenionally targeting BOTH...So stop with this israeli bulls$hit of, "the IDF doesn't intentionally kill civilians, but the palestinian cowards do"...ABSOLUTE FALSEHOOD THAT YOU ARE CONVINCING YOURSELVES OF...The only difference is that that the IDF officer doesn't kill himself in the end, he ends up killing palis and innocent israelis later on. Amen.
127. 123Marvin Goldfarb : Get off the Hashish
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (04.17.06)
128. #110 Nick, the problem with your thinking
AK   (04.17.06)
You've got the cause and effect reversed, which puts the entire logic of your argument on its head. Nick, why was WTC bombed, twice? That's right, I forgot, we didn't bow to Mecca low enough. And in Bali, the Aussies had to be taught a lesson for opposing Christian slaughter by Indonesian Muslims , in East Timor; And the Madrid bombing? That's right, Spaniards also had to be taught who is their master , fast. And van Gough was murdered? Dutch had to master the new definition of free speech, according to sharia, and now the Danes also got to learn it, too, as did we. See any pattern there, Nicky.
129. we curse and condemn lsLaMlc teRRor
(04.17.06)
130. TERROR never wlns .....
(04.17.06)
131. Maital
Ram ,   London   (04.17.06)
You sad sad person. You are in bad need of medication if you think the IDF targets civilians. So you condone terrorists who envelop themselves with family members. Worse still, what kind of human being allows innocents to face danger as a consequence of his actions? That is what you should condemn!
132. If it is Allah that tells them to do this, then...
(04.17.06)
Allah is Satan!! Allah is not the same Supreme Being that Jews and Christian pray to!!
133. #41 GET OUT OF MY LAND!!
Chaya ,   ERETZ YISRAEL   (04.17.06)
You have been fed a bunch of lies. There is no such thing as a 'palestinian' people - never was and never will be! The Koran teaches people to lie. And you pray to a false god. GET OUT!!
134. we share aLL lsraeLs sadneSS
(04.17.06)
we are shouLder to shouLDER wlth lsraeL pubLlC
135. To Ali, #14
Joan ,   Haifa   (04.17.06)
Oh, I guess I must have missed all those Arab nations' clamoring to give back everything they stole from the Jews who lived there and then welcome them back with open arms!
136. KAPARA'S MORON SPEAKS
Arik Silverman ,   Milwaukee USA   (04.17.06)
Maybe some families do celebrate a suicide bombing by a child. If they do, it's a horrible attitude. But not all families do this. I've seen stories where mothers cursed the people who led their sons into bombings. Nevertheless, IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD TO WESTERN EYES TO SEE THE HOUSE OF THE FAMILY DESTROYED FOR SOMETHING ONE OF THE CHILDREN DID. Perhaps there are profound cultural differences that some blind Israelis to this, I don't know. But you better realize the effect it has in the West.
137. IDF SHOOTING CIVILIANS?
Arik Silverman ,   MIlwaukee USA   (04.17.06)
I was not there to verify this, but here is part of a story that was published in 2001. Quote from below: "Children have been shot in other conflicts I have covered-death squads gunned them down in El Salvador and Guatemala, mothers with infants were lined up and massacred in Algeria, and Serb snipers put children in their sights and watched them crumple onto the pavement in Sarajevo-but I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport." Harper's Magazine October, 2001 Report A Gaza Diary Scenes from the Palestinian Uprising By Chris Hedges Thursday morning, June 14, Jerusalem Sunday afternoon, June 17, the dunes I sit in the shade of a palm-roofed hut on the edge of the dunes, momentarily defeated by the heat, the grit, the jostling crowds, the stench of the open sewers and rotting garbage. A friend of Azmi's brings me, on a tray, a cold glass of tart, red carcade juice. Barefoot boys, clutching kites made out of scraps of paper and ragged soccer balls, squat a few feet away under scrub trees. Men in flowing white or gray galabias-homespun robes-smoke cigarettes in the shade of slim eaves. Two emaciated donkeys, their ribs protruding, are tethered to wooden carts with rubber wheels. It is still. The camp waits, as if holding its breath. And then, out of the dry furnace air, a disembodied voice crackles over a loudspeaker. "Come on, dogs," the voice booms in Arabic. "Where are all the dogs of Khan Younis? Come! Come!" I stand up. I walk outside the hut. The invective continues to spew "Son of a bitch!" "Son of a whore!" "Your mother's cunt!" The boys dart in small packs up the sloping dunes to the electric fence that separates the camp from the Jewish settlement. They lob rocks toward two armored jeeps parked on top of the dune and mounted with loudspeakers. Three ambulances line the road below the dunes in anticipation of what is to come. A percussion grenade explodes. The boys, most no more than ten or eleven years old, scatter, running clumsily across the heavy sand. They descend out of sight behind a sandbank in front of me. There are no sounds of gunfire. The soldiers shoot with silencers. The bullets from the M-16 rifles tumble end over end through the children's slight bodies. Later, in the hospital, I will see the destruction the stomachs ripped out, the gaping holes in limbs and torsos. Yesterday at this spot the Israelis shot eight young men, six of whom were under the age of eighteen. One was twelve. This afternoon they kill an eleven-year-old boy, Ali Murad, and seriously wound four more, three of whom are under eighteen. Children have been shot in other conflicts I have covered-death squads gunned them down in El Salvador and Guatemala, mothers with infants were lined up and massacred in Algeria, and Serb snipers put children in their sights and watched them crumple onto the pavement in Sarajevo-but I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport.
138. Disgusting act of terrorism indeed!
Abdullah ,   Kuwait City   (04.17.06)
But what do Israelis really expect from the Palestinians who they didn't stop hounding day in and day out? This is what happens with reluctance of taking peace seriously and the isolation of the Palestinian Authority and Government! Sure, Israel is succeeding in preventing many of the planned suicide attacks on its citizens but can it stand the heat of those attacks that slips by? This cycle of violence and counter violence between the two peoples cannot and won't stop by bombs or walls, it can only be stopped by common respect and agreements which should allow a phase of reconciliation which will lead in the long run to a truthful and meaningful peace that do not give Israelis or Palestinians everything they demand but an acceptable by both side solution! Peace.
139. hamas worshlps satan
(04.17.06)
lran and hamas are a great threat
140. Maital you deranged lunatic....
DR ,   Florida, USA   (04.17.06)
It seems that you have been brainwashed by your arab media and your backwards culture. The fact that you make excuses for terror instantly makes you wrong. What kind of human being defends a terrorist? I guess you would know. The IDF would not fire one shell into Gaza if your coward-ass friends would stop firing qassams into Israel. Is that such a hard notion to understand? Do you have three brain cells? That's all it tkaes. You poor people have been so mis-educated, that you believe your own lies and then you try to get others to fall for your bullsh_t. The world pities Palestinians b/c of this lack of reason. You people believe anything that is said to you as long as it opposes Israel and the west. You are trully blind Maital...very sad indeed!!!
141. Ali in Lodon - when do you go back to where YOU came from
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (04.17.06)
142. note to Gabrielle
Hilda ,   USA   (04.17.06)
Let me tell you what happened this morning at the Jewish Community Center ladies locker room. One of the women asked if I had heard the news about the latest bombing. When I replied I had and how terrible, another woman, I assume a non Jewish but I am not sure started "screaming" What about the terrible bombing by the Israel army and the death of the two Palestinian children. Noone spoke after that. I remarked that had they not been in the line of fire they would not have been killed. and I noted that this woman was perfectly willing to enjoy the hospitality of the Jewish Community Center and bring with her the hatred of an antisemite. Another woman said she was not Jewish but she understood. She thanked me for our hospitality and wished me a happy Passover. This bombing was done by the El Fata. So now the Hamas government can claim they are innocent. It is as I foretold----now they can reverse rolls and still play good Palestinian/bad Palestinian. Is there a way we can write privately?
143. suicide bombing
Muhammad ,   Montreal   (04.17.06)
I don't know what the other arabs think but i think that killing of civilians is not good, Hezbollah never did it but used to scare them to put pressure on israel. i think that that's wat the pals should do but i think that they can do like hezbollah becuz the situation is different. a newspaper (probably the Guardian) had an article saying that hamas will no longer commit suicide bombing. truswt it or not, this could happen, hamas changed it position toward the PA and the elections, probably it will change some other views. Russia did a wise thing by saying it should work with hamas. What u treat someone in a good manner, he might change his view but with an iron fist , he might radicalize.
144. Ali...you think for a change
Michelle   (04.18.06)
Palestinians are what I call the trailer park trash of the middle east. These bastards were welcomed into Lebanon only to turn on the very people who opened up their country to them. Lebanese Christians were either murdered or fled from the Palestinians in their own freaking homeland and you have the balls to come on this site and tell people to freaking think? Time for Israel to start kicking some serious Palestinian ***!
145. Ali
???   (04.18.06)
You are a muslim living in London. Why don't you go back to where you and your fathers came from? Hypocrite!
146. No Words Can Express
Alex ,   USA   (04.18.06)
No words can express the disgust that the Pals elicit in me. Whatever one's politics, one must have lost all moral sense not to see that the western world MUST WIN THIS WAR. One must have lost all humanity not to feel grief and sympathy with the Israelis.
147. mohammed ls angry wlth palestanlanS
(04.18.06)
148. Ali...answer your own questions
Michelle   (04.18.06)
"Do we ethically accept living in a country that is not ours?" England isn't your country and yet you live their anyway. "Where did we originally come for? Even if we were born in Palestine...where did our fathers live before?" Wow...so does this go for all the arab muslims who now live in western society? How come we have to accept them and allow them to live on our land? "Is ocupying a country and kicking its people out of it, killand and wiping them out ethical?" Let's ask the Lebanese Christians! Time for you to be fair and honest to yourself and really want to be logical and wise.
149. #136 Arik?
AK   (04.18.06)
Nevertheless, IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD TO WESTERN EYES TO SEE THE HOUSE OF THE FAMILY DESTROYED FOR SOMETHING ONE OF THE CHILDREN DID. Guess what? To my Western, New York eyes seeing the family house of a terrorist blown to pieces because their "child" blew up scores of people is just fine.
150. #43 Ali
Ron ,   Mission Viejo, USA   (04.18.06)
I'm not a religious person, I'm not Jewish or Muslim I'm an Orthodox Christian. If my history serves me right the Jews lived in Palestine way before the Christians and Muslims did....correct? Actually, Jesus Christ was a Jew.... To all my friends here I'm sorry to hear that more innocent people are dying in this never ending cycle of bloodshed. Maybe someday it will all end! So, Ali…… stop asking stupid questions as to why the Jews are here. Let me ask you a question, if your fore-fathers are from the Holy Land, then maybe you should ask your-self this question….AM I A JEW?
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