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Olmert compares Ahmadinejad to Hitler
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Published: 29.04.06, 12:17
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31. Ask Canada to help u
Muhammad-Ali ,   Montreal   (04.29.06)
we will be happy to gain more land, our most of our country is sparsly inhabited.
32. So ur saying that those who voted for Iran
Muhammad-Ali ,   Montreal   (04.29.06)
to be an Islamic country 27 yrs ago want it to be secular now?
33. Either ur a Jew changing name
Muhammad-Ali ,   Montreal   (04.29.06)
or u represent to opinion of those who didn't vote for Ahmadinejad.
34. to 26
Marcel, Abel ,   Thoiry, France   (04.29.06)
My dear Jane, Your answer is very useful to me and I thank you very much for that. It was very touching too , even moving, and I may say it would be a privilege and a great honour to become your friend , a true friend of all Jews I have been for many years. The Lord knows all about me and my sincere invoIvement in your - my - fight against enemies of Israel. I will prey for you and all your compatriots. The whole world needs you and Israel. Thank you again for being very nice to me. I will keep it deep in my heart. Truly yours.
35. Dear Jane
Jim ,   Somewhere   (04.29.06)
"As to your wish to spend the rest of your life in Israel, if you are Jewish you will be welcomed with open arms and hearts. It is our one and only tiny piece of land on this vast earth. That we are begrudged our one bit of heaven is testimony to the selfishness, greed and hatefulness of our enemies. " "If you are Jewish?" And what if you are not? Do you not see how you define yourself by your racist, separatist, classist, isolationist stance? Sorry to break it to you, you are not special. Trying to pretend you are only invites opposition. To those who feel opposing viewpoints are not welcome on this site, tough. If you live in a so-called democracy you'd better get used to it. Or can't you handle it?
36. lran must be stopped
(04.29.06)
WE are too sorrY to LlVE ln lRaN ... everyday lnnocent peopLe are executed... WE LOVE jews we LOVE Amerlcans... amedlnecat ls a bastard man... he must be KlLLED ... l want amerlcans conquer my country become frEEDom...the women sent prlson lf they no wear scarf on thelr heAds...l thlnk sulce because lran makeS us angry....
37. Mohammad, Iran
Marcel, Abel ,   Thoiry, France   (04.29.06)
Like Jane and Michelle I want to pray to the Lord for you and your country. Amen.
38. Jim
Marcel, Abel ,   Thoiry, France   (04.29.06)
That's the true point, my friend, I am not Jewish, but Jews are my older brothers in the faith (It's easy to decide : I am a Chistian (Catholic Church)). I hope I shall be accepted nevertheless. If not, I will go on praying G-d that I may spend the (little) rest of my life in Israel. But the most important shoud be peace and happiness everywhere in the world, including Israel of course, la terre promise. Thank you all and the Lord bless Israel and everybody.
39. hey Jim
Vorax ,   Cardiff, UK   (04.29.06)
- Annoying. In post 16 you write that you don't support Israel. So one could presume that you at least know who Israel's opponents are. Like Iran's mullas etc. In post 35, you say you don't like Israel's right of return since it is "racist". Wonderful. Now let us put it all together. How many Jews are living in countries who are Israel's opponents? Could a Jew become freely a sitizen of Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Iran? Not speaking about PA where being Jew isn't compatible with life. Israel's right of return is dictated by the history of Jewish people. It was written by chimneys of Buchenwald. And how about you, dear Israel's non-supporter? What you choose for yourself when Islamarabia knocks your door - suicide? slavery? heroic death? But, most likely you are not useful idiot but rather somebody in disguise. Another baba-turban-furher trying to erode good people's will. Don't take Jim's demagogy seriously, he's just a looser.
41. Muhammed of Iran
Ronald Hume ,   New Zealand   (04.30.06)
So good to hear someone from Iran who talks sense. I wish a person of your persuasion could be voted into power in Iran. I'm a gentile but love the Jewish people and Israel and recognise that Israel is the Jews heritage dating back some 4,000 years. We have so much to be thankful for to the Jewish nation and I'm ashamed of my British heritage because of how Britain particularly in the early part of the 1900's mistreated the Jews and did not honour their obligation. Had they done so our Jewish friends would not have faced the huge problems of today. Let's continue to support and pray to the Sovereign One and only God , the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I know He will fulfill His purposes in Israel. G_d bless Israel. ronhume@xtra.co.nz
42. Re: #35
Morris ,   NY, USA   (04.30.06)
Israel is not only a Jewish state, but the state of the Jews. You make it out as if that's such a horrible thing. It's not. And you know what? I don't give a damn if you or the rest of the world think that's racist.
43. #34
Jane   (04.30.06)
My dear Marcel, May the One G-d of all mankind bless you and keep you and make His light to shine upon you. Sincerely, Jane
44. #35
Jane   (04.30.06)
We've handled far more than mealy-mouthed mean-spirited people like you. Racist? I dare say that we are not even close to it. Jews are many races within our peoplehood. Isolationist? Only because the world attempts to isolate us, against our wish. Classist? We are not in the least. Separatist? We have been set apart only in the following of the laws of our Torah. And lastly, Jim, Israel is the one and only State of the Jewish people. Non-Jews who live there are free to practice their religion of choice, receive a free education and world-class health care. But it is still the Jewish State, much in the same way that all of the other countries of the world are either predominantly Christian or, in the case of many Muslim countries, exclusively Islamic. So get off our backs, Jim, and keep the rest of your crap to yourself. You onlyh expose yourself to be a Jew-hating moron.
45. Muhammad-Ali, Montreal
Michelle   (04.30.06)
"So ur saying that those who voted for Iran to be an Islamic country 27 yrs ago want it to be secular now?" Duh...thanks for playing catch up Muhammad-Ali. Is that too difficult a concept for you, a Muslim to understand? Does it not bother you that you get to live free in Canada, practice your faith as you wish, while Muslims in Iran must suffer under a ruthless dictator? Wake the hell up and help these people instead of mocking them!
46. Christian World and Amajnounjihads plans part 1
Joy Springreen   (04.30.06)
Y'see what smacks in the face of the christian world about all this is it reminds them of a story about Jesus where 2 mothers disputed ownership over a baby and so he proposed to share th body in2. The real mother sreamed and and said "no" in horror, "take her, dont harm my baby". Whilst the other had insisted that wouldve been a fair enough deal. So it was obvious who loved the baby like a mother, like a human actually when you think about it. Israel and Palestinians die together in Nuclear scenarios. All of them. If Iran cared about the holiness of Islam in jerusalem and all, why on earth would the muslim world sanctiona threat to it. After all, Israel has never threatened Mecca. So, muslim liberals everywhere, now is the time, now is the dawn of the great dialogue. Start talking over the clamour and riot of the extremists in power. Control the mob by offering them the road to inner peace. Isnt that what its really all about? Islam i mean. The Christian world is not really gonna take the BS for long and thats basically all of the Americas, lots of Africa, Australia, Europe, Russia and more. What im saying in brief is that; Ahedinejad IS a representative and spokesperson for the politcal aspirations of a large portion of people of the Shia faith. If thats not what he is, then do something about him and remove him from power. If you endorse him you damn yourelf by doing so. Thus is the tragedy that will befall your people for their belief in blood sin. Original sin is something the Christian world have worked with the Jewish people for 2 millenia to eradicate. Now that its happened and they fully accept them as equals amongst them for evermore, a new bloodlust comes to expression. the levant is ours to share Jewish and Arab national movements were born in the modern age and haplessly pitted against each other and encouraged by proxy in various directions and aims. The details of which are well illustrated by the death and destruction enacted upon each side by elements from each side.
47. Christian World and Amajnounjihads plans part 2
Joy Springreen   (04.30.06)
I can propose a number of lofty solutions. Peace in the Levant lacks balls. Oslo, the road map, all of them fail to inspire because the extreme elements manage to derail them. So I propose 3 stages to last a few generations of peace-building. Im not going to go into them in depth but the basis is this; 3 stages - firstly a Benelux of the eastern mediterranean. Leb-Isra-Pal. Free trade for the members, tarriffs for the neighbours and others. Prosperity leads to peace. Any state is only 3 meals from anarchy. Portions and mealtimes can be manipulated to precipitate war, as has been seen. This stage is to last a generation, with borders still rigid. But this cant be done as long as Hezbollah are in Lebanon. -secondly a United Kingdom model. Lebanon as Scotland, Israel as England. West Bank as Wales, Gaza as Northern Ireland. This to happen in the second generation. Israel is the stongest economy but would work well, with Lebanese multicultural connections and of course, banking. Palestinian Industriousness and artisitic output combined together with the Israel and Lebanon. Its a powerhouse of productivity just waiting to happen. The borders are softened but security is still an imperitive which is supported by the UN and international community. -Thirdly, the Levantine Republic. A utopian dream of co-existence. I cant describe this yet. Its about 100 years away if even that. A dream, an unlikely one, but a dream nonetheless. The operational basis of the psychology is very raw and intensely middle eastern. If all parties have the "courage" and the "honour" to walk up to each other and kill each other, surely this can be translated into having courage to make peace and work together. The goals are beneficial to everyone if it can be realised, but it will take committment and courage and the "honour" factor is obvious. There is much more "honour" in feeding ones family and building society than going to war. A message that surely will cross all the communities of the Levant (Eastern Mediterranean). The middle east is all about making dreams real. Those dreams simply need re-alignment and then careful management. Various images in the spin war against each other wont matter anymore. Soon no-one will have any eyes or teeth. You cant find food and eat it without them. All we need now is an enlightenment within the muslim clerical world of Iran and the testament of co-existence can inspire humanity for an epoch. but the Christian world loves Jerusalem as much as muslims love Mecca. Jews are the custodians. peace-shalom-salaam.
48. Vorax, Cardiff
Marcel, Abel ,   Thoiry, France   (04.30.06)
Who is in disguise ? What do you think you are, poor little thing, insulting and hurting all around ? Stay in Cardiff and eat your fill of hateful, totally idiotic suggestions. Stop your propaganda, you, a liar of the perfide Albion. I have never hurt anybody on this forum and I am not what you insinuated I were. Why do you not argue with your Irish friends instead of expressing such idiotic remarks ? May the Lord have mercy on you !
49. meaning of ''naqba''.
john ,   london   (04.30.06)
The palestinians don't deplore the creation of Israel but the expulsion of 600 000 of them from their home at this occasion and the razing of 532 palestinian villages by israel.
50. Ho-hum
Jim ,   Somewhere   (04.30.06)
"So get off our backs, Jim, and keep the rest of your crap to yourself. You onlyh expose yourself to be a Jew-hating moron." So quick to call people names. I'm surprised you didn't call me an anti-semite (but I'm sure that's what you're thinking). The fact is, it's not anti-semitic to criticize the policies of Israel. To the bulk of the world's people you are just another bunch of people - nothing special. But the way you parade around as if we owe you some sort of automatic respect is beyond me. I wish you'd understand that it's the policies of Israel that cause people to oppose you. That's all there is to it. You are so angry, so brainwashed. Learn to live as equals with your neighbours and the rest of the world and you wouldn't have these problems. Playing the victim doesn't work any more, and screaming "anti-semite" whenever anyone dares to criticize you has lost all its meaning because it simply isn't true. Only you can undo this. Lose the superiority complex and then we'll talk.
51. #1 Bashing your head against the wall will give you lots ...
Ron ,   LA   (04.30.06)
...headache. what is a Jew? by Leo Nikolaievitch Tolstoy "What is a Jew? That question is not as all so odd as it seems. Let us see what kind of peculiar creature the Jew is, which all the rulers and all the nations have together and separately abused and molested, oppressed and persecuted, trampled and butchered, burned and hanged - and in spite of all this is yet alive. What is a Jew, who never allowed himself to be led astray by all the earthly possessions which his oppressors and persecutors constantly offered him in order that he should change his faith and forsake his own Jewish religion? The Jew is that sacred being who has brought down from heaven the everlasting fire and has illuminated with it the entire world. He is the religious source, spring and fountain out of which all the rest of the peoples have drawn their beliefs and their religions. The Jew is the emblem of eternity. He whom neither slaughter nor torture of thousands of years could destroy, he whom neither fire nor sword nor inquisition was able to wipe off the face of the earth, he who was the first to produce the oracles of G-d, he who has been for so long the guardian of prophecy, and who transmitted it to the rest of the world - such a nation cannot be destroyed. The Jew is as everlasting as is eternity itself." Concerning the Jew by Mark Twain "If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the milky way. Properly the Jew ought hardly to be heard of; but he is heard of, has always been heard of; He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world's list of great names... are also out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; The Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?"
52. #48
Vorax   (04.30.06)
Marcel, Do you follow? I actually wrote to Jim not you. I understand that you are scared there in France. Believe me I didn't want to hurt you personally. Just be more attentive to what you read from "non-supporters" - who are trying to justify and arrange surrender of Jewish state.
53. #49
Jane   (04.30.06)
Yes, John, they do deplore the creation of Israel. Long before Israel was REBORN, the Arabs attacked the Jews in the land. The Hebron massacres of 1929 and 1936 attest to that, not to mention all of the other attacks against Jewish residents. That having been said, you seem to conveniently overlook the equal or greater number of Jews who were expelled from the Arab lands in which they had lived for 2000 years. You over look the Jordanians having destroyed all of the synagogues in the old city and using Jewish grave stones to create latrines. John, your convenient memory, which you use to color your obvious agenda, does nothing other than pointing very clearly to your underlying Jew-hatred. Come clean, John. The truth will set you free.
54. #50
Jane   (04.30.06)
When the world supports our national movement, Zionism, in the same way and with the same force as it supports all other national movements, perhaps we can revisit the issue. To support everyone else's national movement, but not that of the Jews, is exactly what I contend - anti-Semitism. Jim, you can dance around it until you are blue in the face, but your bullshit is obvious to anyone who can see clearly.
55. to Vorax (52)
Marcel Abel ,   Thoiry, France   (04.30.06)
« And how about you, dear Israel's non-supporter? What you choose for yourself when Islamarabia knocks your door - suicide? slavery? heroic death? But, most likely you are not useful idiot but rather somebody in disguise. Another baba-turban-furher trying to erode good people's will.» Shame on me, Vorax, I probably misunderstood your formulation " dear Israel's non-supporter". But non-supporter in singular form would imply one person and not several. That's what misled me. Sorry, it's o.k. with me now. No, I am not the house clown. This leads the conversation onto that point : praying God, the Lord, the Creator of Universe is not " the 4th method " you have been alluding to. « paix aux hommes de bonne volonté ... le Seigneur peut faire des droites avec des courbes ...à Lui rien d'impossible. » Israeli children and all children need living in peace to grow up in the light of His Love if they choose doing so. But there can be no space for hate in His Love. Our time is not His time. God bless you all.
56. To Jane (43)
Marcel, Abel ,   Thoiry, France   (04.30.06)
My dear Jane, I just read your message and short of words - from heart to heart - thank you, thank you for eternity and may the One G-d of all mankind, the Lord bless You and protect You too, and your family, your friends, and you all in Israel. Yours truly, with deep, affectionate thoughts. Marcel, Abel.
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