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German gov’t building adorned with swastikas
Eldad Beck
Published: 08.05.06, 22:31
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1. Old habits die hard!
Arie   (05.08.06)
2. Suha has her mansion in Paris
Arie   (05.08.06)
Will that be Abbas' in Munich? After all, it was the site of the massacre he organized and financed
3. svastikas on gov.building.
bachrach Andres ,   Kfae saba il.   (05.09.06)
I am a nizule shoa,lost my family in Auswitz and am against swastikas but remember Sadat visit in Israel? Sadat appeared every day with the same swastikaadorned necktie.Maybi yidiot ahronot can show us the pictur.
4. #3 Here is the picture
(05.09.06)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7672/nazi6tx.jpg Hashem will bring them back in Geula very soon.
5. The power of illusion...
Rafi ,   Israel   (05.09.06)
It is amazing how give meaning to non existing things...Sick
6. unbeliveable...
ciara ,   australia   (05.09.06)
and yet i am not in shock - Krauts are Krauts through and through.
7. horror lives on in munich
debra ,   usa   (05.09.06)
swastikas in munich on a government building---the nazi horror will never leave germany. too many of the krauts still yearn for the days of their reign of terror over fortress europe.
8. German gov’t building adorned with swastikas
Arthur Heynemann ,   Melbourne   (05.09.06)
Many in my family were victims of the unfathomable hatred of the nazis (may they be blotted out of history). We implore the Bavarian authorities to remove these symbols of hatred. Indifference and apathy should not be a an excuse. Failure to act demonstrates that the authorities are without remorse of regret regarding these symbols.
9. Another, clearer pic
J ,   London   (05.09.06)
http://www.norskisraelsenter.no/images/land-for-peace/sadat-dayan-begin-1.jpg can you believe dayan and begin just sat there like two self hating jews and said nothing.
10. oh for christs sake
Intedi Nensak ,   Stockholm, Sweden   (05.09.06)
It's just a building! who cares? it's nothing more than a piece of history and shouldn't be removed because it wasn't pleasant history. instead it should be brought into attention so that everyone can see it, to cover up and hide the past will make people forget about it, and the evil the swastika represents shouldn't be forgotten.
11. #9
ciara ,   australia   (05.09.06)
Dayan and Begin were far from self hating Jews, in fact Israel has never had a leader since Begin. If you want self hating Jews look at Olmert and Peretz with their radical "defence" policies.
12. Re: #9/#11
Morris ,   NY, USA   (05.09.06)
To #9: wow, it took me a second to see it, but yes, there are swastikas on Sadat's tie! To #11: In light of what I just said above, I think #9's direct message was half-joking/half-serious that Begin and Dayan "didn't say anything" about the swastikas on Sadat's tie, but was indirectly implying his thoughts on Dayan and Begin.
13. VW Illusion
DF ,   Tel Aviv   (05.09.06)
Next time you see a Volkswagon try to concentrate on the hub caps. When the wheels are moving a swastika is clearly seen. The symbol is unfortunatenly everywhere the cars are sold.
14. "swastika"
joe   (05.09.06)
Oh, this Germans!! As restitution for not having removed this wrought iron fence we will demand another submarine for FREE!!!! Oh Israel! Where is the couch large enough to lay down a whole nation on - where is the army of neurologists, psychiatrists and other type of "headshrinkers" to cure them from their paranoia???? I am already "googling".......
15. I was in Munich in March. #6 give it a rest. Also, the Tie
howard ,   pacific coast, usa   (05.09.06)
I visited Munich on business in March. Not only do I look very Jewish, but I also had to confirm lack of pork in food, etc. so I was very open about being Jewish. Not only did my German coworkers and business partners treat me with the utmost respect and courtesy, but they also did everything possible to ensure that I had a pleasant stay, both in the office and in the city. I only hope that I can reciprocate if they visit us in the US. Nor did I experience any problems with any of the hotel staff, waiters, airport security or anyone else. Nor have I ever personally been targetted for anti-Semitic acts while travelling on business in Germany. On the other hand, I have personally experienced anti-Semitism in other countries that claim to be very tolerant. It would be a good idea for them to remove the swastikas, or else classify them as a memorial to the victims of the Holocaust, something to say that the evil that occurred, occurred also in bland bureaucratic buildings like that one. They should do something. But there is no crisis. Regarding the Saadat tie, it is worth noting that the official Nazi hakenkreutz rotates in the opposite direction from the swastika on Saadat's tie. The symbol he is wearing is used as a good luck charm in certain Asian cultures. However, given that such a difference is subtle, and that the Nazis sometimes flipped the swastika as shown in the building photo, wearing ANY swastika in a meeting with Jewish people is not a friendly move. I am sure the man was aware of it, and it reflects very badly on him. *shrugs* Well, as Dayan and Begin knew well, Egyptian fashion assaults are a lot more acceptable than Egyptian tanks assaulting Israel. Tthere have been no battles between Egypt and Israel in the last 30 years, and without Egypt, the Syrian threat has been much easier to contain. It's not a warm peace, but Begin did the right thing for Israel.
16. howard from pacific coast
ciara ,   australia   (05.09.06)
Consider yourself lucky. I do not look Jewish and when I was in Munich and Berlin the company I was in made plenty anti semitic comments, they were shocked when I pulled them into line. I experienced the same "warm" welcoming in Innensbruk and Belgium. I personally don't feel anything has changed. In fact there has been a trend amongst the youth in reaction to their country's history. Anti Semitism is on the rise - dont be delluded.
17. Are you fu#$$!! kidding me!!!
Someone ,   Somewhere   (05.09.06)
18. SWASTIKAS IN MILWAUKEE
Arik Silverman ,   Milwaukee USA   (05.09.06)
Some years ago, I walked in the area of the MIlwaukee Area Technical College, a public trades school. I looked over the building and noted that in the brickwork near the top of the building there was a pattern of swastikas. I'm not sure what year the building was put up, but I do believe there was no intent to honor the Nazis. the swastika is a symbol frequently found in old American Indian art. I mention this because at that time there was a campaign to remove similar swastikas that had been recognized in the interior tile decoration of a local high school. It would be interesting to see pictures of the German swastikas and judge how hard or easy it would be to remove them.
19. SWASTIKA PICTURES
Arik Silverman ,   MIlwaukee USA   (05.09.06)
Having turned on the pictures on my browser, I now see the swastikas. In the top picture, with the lion's head, The "swastikas" are so hard to distinguish that it would almost take paranoia to recognize them -- if, indeed, they are actually there. In the second picture, the grill work clearly shows swastikas, and they could easily be removed from the presumed iron work with a cutting torch, so why not remove them?
20. Horrendous!!
josef ,   Spain   (05.09.06)
We can no more accept these horrendous criminal actions!
21. Swastikas? Who Cares?!
Joe Sams ,   Indianapolis, USA   (05.09.06)
Must be a slow news day. Doesn't the world have enough concerns without you going back 60 years to bash some dead Germans?
22. who cares
Someone ,   Canada   (05.09.06)
swastikas, whooo. Big deal. how about we do a news story about every "kill whitey" and black power graffitis.
23. history
j ,   us   (05.10.06)
Its a ww2 historical monument and should be preserved, not destroyed or forgotten
24. munich swastikas
Gavriel Rosenfeld ,   Cos Cob, CT, USA   (05.12.06)
While I respect the opinions voiced in this piece, I don't anything should be "done" about the swastikas on the former Luftgaukommando building on the Prinzregentenstrasse (if the implied action is removing them). As I argued in my book, MUNICH AND MEMORY: ARCHITECTURE, MONUMENTS, AND THE LEGACY OF THE THIRD REICH (Berkeley, 2000), removing such offensive symbols some 70 years after the building's construction would be tantamount to sweeping the city's Nazi past under the rug -- something Munich has done all too successfully since 1945 to make itself appear less "Nazi" than it was during the Third Reich, when it was Hitler's "capital of the movement." The symbols should remain as architectural evidence that the NSDAP once upon a time did in fact make the city its home base for its epochal crimes. Gavriel Rosenfeld Associate Professor of History Fairfield University Fairfield, CT
25. #24
someone ,   Canada   (04.24.08)
I totally agree with you. What do we accomplish by destroying history? Rome is a perfect example, could you imagine what the remains of ancient rome would look like today if the locals some 1500 years ago erased all their history to please the world at the time. Roman relics in Rome today reek of the same injustice and persecution of foreigners, that the Nazi Swastika resembles, yet such fascination in ancient rome still exists. Something to think of.
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