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Hamas: We’ll recognize Israel within '67 borders
Ali Waked
Published: 11.05.06, 00:19
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1. That peaceful state on the east saying...
Steve ,   USA   (05.11.06)
B"H "We ask all the people in surrounding Arab countries, the Muslim world and everyone who wants to support us to send weapons, money and men," ... With peace partners like these, who needs war mongers? And why discriminate against the women?
2. Another non-starter!
Arie   (05.11.06)
3. Recognition of Israel
Phil ,   Adelaide, Australia   (05.11.06)
Hamas seems to think recognition of Israel's right to exist is negotiable. Who or what ever gave them that idea?. Recognition is not negotiable...either ther recognise Israel or they don't. Any negotiation of borders and other matters will follow AFTER recognition. Israel already recognises Palistinians right to have a democratic state..one that is not led by a bunch of terrorists...is that too much to ask for? Hamas..you guys are a bunch of hypocryts...suggesting recoginition of Israel on the one hand and calling for armed support from your so called allies on the other!! How does Hamas expect anyone to trust them. Come on Hamas!...do the right thing for the sake of peace and take the first step with the unconditional recognition of Israel's right to exist!
4. Wake up Hamas
J K ,   NYC, USA   (05.11.06)
Hamas needs to wake up and smell the new century. Things are not 1967 anymore and certain demographic realities have taken hold in the almost 40 years since the war that arent going to be reversed simply because they demand it. Arab intrasigence made it impossible to give back the whole of the territories captured in '67 and due to the military realities of the time, it made sense to create buffer zones or settlement. The 'funny' thing is, at the root of it, the 'Palestinians' themselves have no actual claim. Egypt gave up the strip back in '79 or '80 and Jordan gave up the WB in 1988. Who did they give it up to? No one as far as I can tell, leaving these territories under Israeli administration along with the stateless Arabs in their midst (although I am sure some have Jordanian citizenship). If you want to say Israel should negotiate with them towards a settlement, fine, but the 'Palestinians; should give up the fantasy that Israel is going to uproot 1/4 of a million people to satisfy their demands from a war that was lost long ago. Not gonna happen. At best, they can hope for about 92% of their dream coming true. At worst, they will have the terms dicatated to them a lot worse than 92. You just wished they'd care more about whats best for their people now than a pipe dream that will never become a reality.
5. You'll get what you want Khaled Suleiman
ciara ,   australia   (05.11.06)
Tsippi Livni is making sure you have enough money to kill us and Olmert will give you the land you want to ruin us... Kadima will give you EVERYTHING you EVER WANTED, including Jerusalem.
6. Israel should ignore a "people" that don't even exist.
Palestiniansareamyth ,   USA   (05.11.06)
They are Arabs from Jordan, Syria. etc. Send them back to their homelands now! http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/palestine.htm
7. Nothing quoted to Hamas in the article makes no commonsence!
Dal   (05.11.06)
8. More BS from the Arabs. With them war is inevitable.
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9. 1967 Crap
Brod ,   Marshall, USA   (05.11.06)
The terrorists think that they can coerce Israel to give up its historic homeland that the Jewish people inherited from their forefathers--Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) 4000 years ago and had fought for and sacrificed their lives to defend over the millennia. The Arab Islamists originated from their historic homeland in South Eastern Arabia. Instead of trying to wipe off Israel and using their 1967 crap to better accomplish their ultimate goal of annihilating Israel, they should return to their country of origin. Israel is an independent democratic country and its duty is to protect their people and provide a homeland for the Jewish people. No country should meddle with Israel pertaining to the affairs of their historic homeland.
10. Did they recognize us in 48
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when we didnt have the 67 borders? Its all a sham and you have to know it. Iff you go by Death Now principles, that would be giving up the Western Wall, when that happens, Erev Rav blood will be shed
11. PLEASE RECOGNIZE ME
sk ,   USA   (05.11.06)
So I guess this bit of theater was the quid pro quo Bush/Rice demanded for the "Quartet" to approve more money for the "Palestinians"? What dufus, by the way, made up the title & subtitle of the article? The actual news story, though written by Ynet's own "Palestinian" journalist Ali Waked, at least provides context in terms of Mashaal's request for weapons. There is nothing "pragmatic or surprising" here.
12. SSDD
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (05.11.06)
Same scheiss, different day. If Mashaal is so interested in "calm" and "peace" then why is he demanding "weapons, fighters, and money" instead of bread, milk, and vitamins?
13. Enough is enough
Robby ,   San Jose, Ca   (05.11.06)
A very lucrative offer to Mr. Arafat was on the table, and he should have accepted. He did not. Israel should not offer more, they should offer LESS. And the FIRST thing that should be off the table is Jerusalem. And they should make it clear, every 30 days of non-action by the Palestinians will cost them more. More land, more access, more everything. Even the lunatics members of Hamas should eventually understand what is happening.
14. Is Khaled Mashaal a true idiot ?
Hiram Al Masry ,   Tel Aviv   (05.11.06)
That is the question.... In a time when obviously , the terror organisation calling itself HAMAS is starting to yield under the tragic reality that they are totally incompetent to run any Palestinian state, should there be one , an other terror Idiot names Mashaal is calling somehow for " a continuous jihad " and asking his " arab brothers" to send guns !! How can he prentend to achieve this ? What right does he have to undermine any possible resolution of the Palestinian crisis ? Is Khalad Mashaal really an Idiot or is he intellectually limited ??? Whatever wau we look at it , it reflects badly once again on Palestinians...Who is running these few sqare kilometers ? Is there anybody on board ? And please , let me know why a few sqare kilometeres need to have over 150.000 civil servants !!!!
15. yes, they will recognize israel (as a target for terrorism)
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (05.11.06)
hamas recognizes israel every second of their poverty-stricken waking lives, only their delusional self-induced blindness and pride keep them from admitting what is the most painfully obvious fact in their tiny world. ignorance is bliss, it seems.
16. Warmongers
Jet Setter ,   Israel   (05.11.06)
And, once again, the Arab world rushes to the aid of Hamas (not!). They are starving, they have no money, they are destitute and no-one, not one of their 'brothers' has come forward to help them. The entire world stands by and looks on as these people deserve everything they voted for. What a bunch of warmongers. Their pleas will go unanswered because, well quite frankly, everyone has had enough of them.
17. As always Arabs will fight to the last Palestinian...
Ron ,   LA   (05.11.06)
18. They'll take borders Israel gives them, dumb nobodies.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (05.11.06)
19. beautifully said mike, kol hakavod
ciara ,   australia   (05.11.06)
20. Absolute recognition
yakov shani ,   afula   (05.11.06)
between Israel and Hamas already exists. We recognize them for exactly what they are, bloodthirsty animals as far removed from humanity as one can be and they recognize us as prey to be attacked and killed at any opportunity in order to fulfill their natural instincts. This is mutual recognition, no contracts, no agreements, no treaties,no verbal understandings, just plain recognition of the facts as they are.
21. A Two way Deal... Make everyone Happy
richard Hitchings ,   methil   (05.11.06)
Hamas conforms to recognise Israel within the its 1967 borders... Now Israel must conform to UN resolution 242....Kiss make up the everybodies Happy.
22. # 21 Mr. Hitchins
yakov shani ,   afula   (05.11.06)
First if you had even the shallowest of understanding of why and how Israel exists today as it does, and I am refereing to modern history only, 1917 onwards, you would not have said what yoy did. Second, specifically with reference to 242, Israel not only accepts it and wants it but was instrumental in drafting it and passing it, now this may seem strange to you, but it is fact. In order to understand this you must read it very very carefully and also have a very very good command of the English language. It is not as you and most people are given to understand, Israel goes back to 1967 and suddenly we have peace and recognition. If you are open to explanation I can giver it to you, but it is more complicated than you believe.
23. 22 yakov...The Smearing of Hamas
richard Hitchings ,   methil   (05.11.06)
Then indeed yakov you must be in command of the excellent English ..that is required to to decipher the excuses that Israel.. after 40 years of stalling.. has used in order to make sure that it does not comply with UN Resolution242 ..... Im sure that Hamas will be just as intrested as myself for your enlightenment..... Or it might just be that the creation of Great Israel... is a more important agenda than conforming to International law..... at the expence of the Palestinian People of course...... While in the meantime the legitimate goverment of the Palestinian people is smeared as "Terrorist" because they "Recognise Israel". within its 1967 borders
24. Within hamass' 67 borders!
Arie   (05.11.06)
25. 21 Scottish Storm Trooper who loves Terrorists is back
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.11.06)
who Hates Jews and Zionists Who also said he wants to teach us Jews all about Judaism ... (which he couldn't spell) who also thinks we holocaust survivors should be thanking the Red Army for our Liberation Who is a typical Scottish Storm Trooper Jew Hater If you want anyone to take you really serious - you need to stop proclaiming Marxist ideas that equal ISM movement.
26. 23 Trooper Hitchings Hamas is a listed Terror Organization
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.11.06)
supported by Iran and Syria - which we all know YOU love why don't move to Iran you idiot: This is Hamas: which you support, so you support the destruction of a sovereign State Israel - that's what it is really about with YOU Your Hate has no limits - and that's you all come here for: Who is Hamas ? As it points out in the Hamas Charter Covenant: On the Destruction of Israel: 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble) The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area: ........ etc.. "Unmasking Hamas' Hydra of Terror" - A Simon Wiesenthal Center Report http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nl/content.asp?c=fwLYKnN8LzH&b=312458&content_id={8413545A-439C-4373-A19F-7CC7996A3F26}¬oc=1 THE HAMAS - BACKGROUND http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/970824.htm THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm
27. IT WON'T HAPPEN
Arik Silverman ,   Milwaukee USA   (05.11.06)
Of course Israel will never accept this because it won't go back to the 1967 borders. But if Hamas follows through with official statements recognizing Israel within those borders, it will creat a terrific headache for George Bush. The Europeans will jump on recognitioin and the US will be the one isolated.
28. To #3 Israel should recognize the rights of the Pal ppl
Muhammad-Ali ,   Montreal   (05.12.06)
before since Israel is the occupier, the occupier should accept concessions before the occupied.
29. To #6 Golda Meir 2 alcohol is bad it lessenur IQ to the
Muhammad-Ali ,   Montreal   (05.12.06)
lowest level. If Pals do not exist, then who is Israel fighting, the wind?
30. Israel was GIVEN by G-D to JEWS as an ETERNAL POSSESSION
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (05.12.06)
What incredible arrogance for anyone to say Israel needs to be recognized by man when Israel was given by G-D to Jews! There never was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was never the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Jerusalem is mentioned over 800 times in the Bible, not once in the Koran. The murderous dispute of Islamo-Fascist religious supremacists is with G-D, for it is G-D - Master of the Universe, who gave the Promised Land to Jews. G-D states repeatedly in the Bible He has given Israel to all Jews as an eternal possession. Psalm 105:8 "He has remembered His covenant forever, the word which He commanded to a thousand generations. The covenant which He made with Abraham, and His oath to Isaac. Then He confirmed it to Jacob for a statute, to Israel as an everlasting covenant, saying, "To you I will give the land of Canaan as the portion of your inheritance." Who will dare to give away even one inch of the land G-D gave to Jews and who will dare to take or steal it? Who will dare to attempt to destroy Israel? Who will dare make war against this great, this mighty and awesome G-D - Creator of the Universe. Psalm 119:120 "My flesh trembles for fear of You, and I am afraid of Your judgments."
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