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31. FBI: JEWS NEED NOT APPLY For Arabic Linguist Jobs
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (05.18.06)
FBI: Jews need not applyfor Arabic linguist jobs Despite shortage, loyalty issues, bureau snubbed 90 N.Y. applicants October 9, 2003 By Paul Sperry WorldNetDaily.com Despite a shortage of Arabic translators, the FBI turned down applications for linguist jobs from nearly 100 Arabic-speaking Jews in New York following the World Trade Center attacks, WorldNetDaily has learned. The FBI's New York office in October 2001 asked a local charity that works with Arab Jews to submit applications for the linguist jobs, which are crucial to anti-terrorism investigations. But not one of the more than 90 applicants was hired, even though some had helped translate Arabic for Israeli radio and TV news stations and the Israeli army before coming to America, the charity's director says. ...''Maybe the FBI is not hiring Jewish people that often, I don't know,'' he said, suggesting the FBI fears offending the Muslim community. ...However, the head of the New York office recently invited a Muslim cleric to preach to New York agents about Islam's alleged peaceful attributes as part of a bureau-wide Muslim-sensitivity training program. FBI Director Robert Mueller has reached out to several Muslim-rights groups since the Sept. 11 attacks. Balin's assistant, Yola Haber, said that many of the Jewish applicants were ''highly qualified'' and had passed the bureau's language-proficiency tests... Still, the FBI has been hard-pressed to clear a large backlog of untranslated documents and recorded dialogue in Arabic, information that could produce clues to terrorist plots in the U.S. ... Many of the translators that both the FBI and military have hired are Arab Muslims. The Army is investigating two Muslim linguists for possible spying... Gamal Abdel-Hafiz, an immigrant Muslim, twice refused on religious grounds to tape-record Muslim terrorist suspects, hindering investigations... A fellow FBI agent, Robert Wright, said Abdel-Hafiz finally explained to him that ''a Muslim does not record another Muslim,'' after first claiming he feared for his life. Other agents said he contacted Arab subjects under investigation without disclosing the contacts to the agents running the cases. Despite his divided loyalties, the FBI subsequently promoted Abdel-Hafiz by assigning him to the U.S. Embassy in Saudi Arabia, a critical post for intelligence-gathering. Three-fourths of the Sept. 11 hijackers were Saudis. After Wright and another agent blew the whistle in the media, however, Adel-Hafiz was put on administrative leave... http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35018
32. #26 and #30
Sam Weinstein ,   USA   (05.18.06)
First of all this has been going on for years. 2nd again The Chinese have been spying on the US for years and Chinese Americans have not been denied security clearance. 3rd. The US spys on Israel all the time so why is the US concerned about Israel spying on her no one is preventing American Duel Citizens in Israel from security clearences.
33. #32
Mike ,   Jacksonville Florida   (05.18.06)
Wen Ho Lee did two years in solitary confinement for doing nothing. I doubt that Rosen or his AIPAC buddy will do Any time at all and they were caught with the goods. The Chinese don't need to spy on us. Israel will sell them all the American technology they want.
34. Jewish Disabled Vet
J.B. ,   Jerusalem   (05.18.06)
I am a young Jewish disabled US Army veteran now living in Israel. Question - does this mean that if I apply for a job back in the states that I will be discriminated against? I was a successful officer with a security clearance. Will the gov't take away my benefits because I live in Israel. Maybe! What is going on here is people who have been working already for years are getting sent to court. Not new hires. This sounds a lot like Germany in '33. Don't you people see it?? First it's the statement of "us" against them. Then we (gov't) will take some of your rights to pursue this war on terrorism. You - Joe Q Public - will agree because you are patriotic. You will accuse anybody who does not agree with the gov't an anti - (you fill in the blank). We will tap your phones, check your email, intrude on your lives etc etc. Next we will force people out of their jobs like what is happening here based on baseless info and lies. They are already using laws passed supposedly for fighting terror to combat other crime. I am not saying other crime is good but they can use these laws for ANYTHING!!! There is no limit to the gov'ts power !!! Don't you see!!! Wake up! It is happening. It has nothing to do with being Israeli but being Jewish. Our loyalties will always be put to test. Trust me I know from experience. It will start with us and spread to other ethnic groups. Just watch. Some of you who don't agree will one day see the writing on the wall.
35. How many citizenships can you have?
D- ,   San Diego, USA   (05.18.06)
2? 3? 4? 5? What's the record?
36. And US is spying on Israel !
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37. #29 - Security Clearance, #35 the record
Barry ,   Tel Aviv   (05.18.06)
Israel does in fact give security clearance to people with dual citizenship. Netanyahu's US citizenship is frozen (in Israel) because the US would not accept his renunciation. And the record? For work reasons, and birth, I am a legal citizen of: Germany Switzerland United States Canada Australia Israel
38. CELEBRATING 9/11 at the FBI
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (05.18.06)
Celebrating 9/11 at the FBI By Paul Sperry FrontPageMagazine.com | February 11, 2004 When linguist Sibel Dinez Edmonds showed up for her first day of work at the FBI, a week after the 9-11 attacks, she expected to find a somber atmosphere. Instead, she was offered cookies filled with dates from party bowls set out in the room where other Middle Eastern linguists with top-secret security clearance translate terror-related communications. She knew the dessert is customarily served in the Middle East at weddings, births and other celebrations, and asked what the happy occasion was. To her shock, she was told the Arab linguists were celebrating the terrorist attacks on America, as if they were some joyous event. Right in front of her supervisor, one translator cheered: "It's about time they got a taste of what they've been giving the Middle East."... http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12138
39. #33
Sam Weinstein ,   USA   (05.18.06)
Again a Taiwanese citizen who worked at a major aerospace company with a security clearance was arrested yesterday for trying to buy arms again are Chinese Americans being deneyed security clearances. Jewish Americans are denied security clearances why not Chinese Americans, or Russian Americans. There have been other examples in this blog also.
40. 6 Sam Weinstein: got it right to the point
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.18.06)
41. 7 Ellen Prescott : You obviously have NO clue
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.18.06)
many have dual citizenships - are You just jealous to be left out ?
42. American antisemitism
linda rivera ,   N-Y   (05.18.06)
Don't forget : there was a quota against the jews in the Ivy League universities in the 50's, a jew Franck was lynched in 1915 because he was jewish (the french freed Dreyfus), Ford was rabid antisemite. Only one choice for the american jews : make alya!
43. This has to do with a foreign nation
Upset ,   USA   (05.18.06)
Thank God! About time. No one with a dual citizenship should work on sensitive national defense projects or be anywhere near our foreign policy. Period. Leave the religious issue out of this. And invoking the tired canard of anti-semitism to silence genuine concern for our own national interest and foreign policy is loathsome. Currently, as reported in this paper and in other news organs, Israel-Firsters in the USA are pushing the USA to attack Iran. Olmert is coming here to address both houses of Congress to demand that the USA attack Iran. This will provoke WWIII. Now ... if that happens, THEN you will see real anti-semitism spread across America as Joe Six-Pack wakes up to the fact that his brothers, uncles, and fathers are being sacrificed for the foreign policy of a foreign nation that has done nothing to us and minded it's own business for the past 27 years. THEN the prophecy from the Torah will come true, and the anti-semitism in this country will, sadly, be so virulent, Israel will rue the day it thought it deserved to be a world power on the order of the USA instead of what it is: a financial parasite.
44. profiling at its worst
Sigfried S. Kuhn ,   Aberdeen   (05.18.06)
Even though all of the 9-11 murderers were Arabs and the perpetrators of the 1993 attack on the WTC were Arabs, airports are not allowed to profile because of ethnicity. Instead, little old ladies in walkers are subjugated to intense scutiny. The AC LU and other similar organizations would be the first to file a lawsuit if airport security began to profile Arabs. Yet, I have not heard any outcry by this organization or other "civil libertarians" about this egeregious example of discrimination and profiling of Jews. What the hell is going on?
45. #43 PAT BUCHANAN OFF THIS SITE!!
Jane   (05.18.06)
46. #38 The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9-11
Tom Humphrey ,   San Diego, USA   (05.18.06)
How did they know there would be an event to document on 9-11? It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents - here's the most logical scenario: 1. The Israeli "movers" cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history. 2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel. 3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices. 4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis' misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture. 5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs. 6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department "higher-ups" are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.
47. 43 Upset ,USA: Your BS is overwhelming
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.18.06)
So - then in retrospect - each National no matter where - which is in dual citizenship with the US - should be NOT on any national defense projects in Israel ... and other countries - etc... Wake up to your stupidity OK - then loads of American citizens which are dual with Israel and live in Israel - should all be removed from the IDF - IAF - and all that concerns Israel's security - You are a fool America and Israel have always worked n military unisome many times over when the US needed same - They train many times together It was Israel that destroyed under US sanctions - the Iraqi Nuclear - but in turn were sanctioned by the USA - despite giving the world a service. Now read real Facts: Israel 'Will Not Allow' Iran Nuclear Weapons The brother of newly-elected Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, said here on Monday that Israel "will not allow" Iran to acquire nuclear weapons capability, and will launch a unilateral military strike if necessary to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities. Israel recently launched a new spy satellite, Eros-B, capable of photograph objects on the ground as small as 70 centimeters, according to Ha'aretz newspaper. Israel would much prefer taking part in an international coalition with the United States and Europe to disarm Iran, but would strike alone if that became necessary, he said. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/5/17/92232.shtml?s=br
48. #43 Upset Get a Grip and take a deep Breath
Sam Weinstein ,   USA   (05.18.06)
Again. The issue is not about dual citzens it is about religon and also nations. Duel Citezinship restrictions seem only to apply to Israel based on this and other articles and not to Dual Citezins in other countries like I said earlier on Taiwan or Chinese Americans . 2nd even Jewish NON dual Citezins have in the past faced discrimination for security jobs. But if your grasping for straws to justify your anti semitism then I can't help you.
49. So when are you leaving Linda?
prophet bob ,   erehwon, amerika   (05.18.06)
Yeah...just what I thought.... not anytime soon. Typically jewish, all talk and no walk. But seriously, Jews should look at it from the other side. If the Amerikans had deliberately tried to sink and murder the entire crew of an isreali ship back in 1967 (i.e. U.S.S. Liberty), if an Amerikan had stolen critical israeli defense secrets and sold them to the Iranians, (like Jonathan Pollard), or if the top guy of an Amerikan lobbying group located in israel was caught red handed passing around israeli defence secrets (i.e. AIPAC) do you think your equivalent of the State Dept and Defence Dept. would be looking into every Amerikan that wanted to work in Dimona? Do you know how old it is getting to constantly hear Amerikan jews (an oxymoron if there ever was one) whine about being victims. Face it, Amerika is the Promised Land for jews. Quit crying or go to israel. They want you over there and we won't mind you going.
50. Dual Citizenship should mean Loss of Clearance
Izzy ,   Baltimore, USA   (05.18.06)
See my article discussing just why anyone with a dual-citizenship should lose their security clearance.
51. 46 TOM: get your facts right - who danced Arabs did
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.18.06)
Who cheered - The Arabs did ! If you cannot see facts - then you have a personal agenda - and want tp blow Jew Hate This is how the FBI works ! Jihad Watch: Celebrating 9/11 at the FBI http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000871.php FBI: Jews need not apply for Arabic linguist jobs www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/998581/posts FBI WITCH-HUNT http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=papers&code=04-D_40
52. can I ?
adriomas ,   kentucky, usa   (05.18.06)
I am not Jewish but can I gain Israeli citizenship so that I too may hold a dual citizenship? Oh, that's right it's not about religion is it? Well then can I move to Israel and buy some land and live there? Oh right , it's not about religion is it? Ok then, how about I move to Israel and teach Jews about Jesus? Darn, my mistake, that's illeagal in Israel too isn't it? How's come when my country doesn't want those holding loyalty to anther government in sensitive positions it has to be another nail in the coffin of Jewish persecution but Israel will not even allow non-Jews to move into their land, buy property, and be prductive citizens? Oh yeah right, it's about religion. When one severs two masters which one should trust him the land of his birth or the land of his god? if you want to be Israeli or any other nationality then move there and give them your talents. If you want to be American then do it with all of your heart or get the hell out!
53. 49 bob: Grow up - go back and play with the kids in the
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.18.06)
street you silly student - you only post Jew Hate - but never have anything intelligent to say by the way you little fool - Linda is not Jewish
54. 52 adriomas: It is obvious you have NO clue about Israel
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.18.06)
otherwise you would know - that there are all kinds of religion and different colors - living in Israel - and being Israelis Before you throw your un-educated mouth off - get informed - then talk the Knesset has also Arab MK's etc... The government is secular - and you are a big fool with an agenda of pure Hate But then Kentucky has obviously little or no educated people
55. #51 Here we go again
Tom Humphrey ,   San Diego USA   (05.18.06)
Anybody who Criticized Israel you'll label them as anti-semite.lol! It does not work anymore. The story on Israeli spying inside the focused on three companies, Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for most American phone companies, Comverse Infosys, which installs and mainstains telephone tapping equipment for US law enforcement, and Odigo, which provides services for the various "Instant Message" systems on your computer. All three companies are owned by Israel and have strong ties to the Israeli Defense Force. Both Amdocs and Comverse Infosys were implicated in the sale of telephone data which compromised US investigations into drug running, and Comverse Infosys phone taps are suspected of being the means by which Bill Clinton's phone sex sessions were recorded, as reported in the Ken Starr Report. Odigo, which had offices near the World Trade Towers, is the company which received a two hour advance warning of the attacks of 9-11. Now, in a chilling real life version of the plotline from "The Net", it turns out that the majority of the firewalls on US corporate and government computer systems are provided by just one company, Checkpoint Systems, which like Amdocs, Comverse Infosys, and Odigo, is headquartered in Israel.
56. 47 Gabrielle: Shame on you
Upset ,   USA   (05.18.06)
Gabrielle, I dont care if Israel allows dual-citizenship. So it has Americans in the IDF? So what? [Our taxpayers are supporting it.] Not my business what another country does. I only care that people with dual citizenship occupy sensitive national security and defense positions in the US and political office in the US. And that goes for ALL dual passports from Ireland, Denmark, France, Canada, Germany, China, Taiwan, wherever. I dont object to dual passports. I object to people who have access to our secret national security documents and technology having a dual passport. Make your choice: where do your loyalties lie? Period. Israel is not the 51st State. Period. It should not be assuming it is. Olmert "demands" the US attack Iran http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3249426,00.html Impatient Mossad warns of 'monster in the making' 'This is what we know and this is what we'll do if you continue to do nothing' http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49984 And whose children will be killed in this move? For what? So Israel strikes alone and places the entire US military in Iraq in harm's way? Our "great friend" Israel? SHAME ON YOU, warmongers. SHAME ON YOU!
57. 55Tom Humphrey : yes here we go again YOU show only Hate
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.18.06)
cannot face facts - and it shows your very own agenda ONLY the question is - why do you come to a Jewish Israeli website - to spew Hate ? or to face facts THESE ARE FACTS: iIf Arabs working for the FBI celebrated 9/11 it doesn't bother YOU ?????????? It bothers certainly those who then faced the FBI to be cleaned up you obviously did not study facts Who cheered - The Arabs did ! If you cannot see facts - then you have a personal agenda - and want tp blow Jew Hate This is how the FBI works ! Jihad Watch: Celebrating 9/11 at the FBI http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000871.php FBI: Jews need not apply for Arabic linguist jobs www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/998581/posts FBI WITCH-HUNT http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?section=papers&code=04-D_40
58. 56 Upset,USA: Shame is on you - since you have NO clue
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.18.06)
study reality - America giving guarantees in payment - isn't cash America giving guarantees to support Israel - means in turn Israel buys America - it is in the interest of America - for it's economy Now you obviously are not in the loop to understand how guarantees work - also in return America has Israeli services - in Intel - technology etc.. etc... ask your Government what Israeli guarantees do for America then talk - but don't throw an agenda onto the forum - when you walk around knowing nothing
59. Upset + Tom just want to play their agenda of Hate
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.18.06)
it shows - since they know NO details nor any facts
60. 57
Upset ,   USA   (05.18.06)
"If Arabs working for the FBI celebrated 9/11 it doesn't bother YOU" They were arabic translators, but American citizens. They spoke arab dialects, just BTW, like the majority of Sabra and other Israelis.
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