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Amnesty: Microsoft helped Israeli Police in Vanunu probe
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Published: 28.05.06, 21:09
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1. so what's shocking or surprising?
yoel ,   Switzerland   (05.28.06)
Microsoft is not above the law, and if authorities ask releasing information, they must obbey. This happens in France, Swizerland, USA, and anywhere else in the world. If authorities inquire about your loggins because you are suspected concerning child pornography or whatever else; then your provider must release all the informations about your connections and your visits. So, what's the difference? Is Israel below the other states concerning authority and power? Do you think Microsoft didn't cooperate during the Enron's inquiry?
2. Bill Gates Rocks!
Dror ,   Israel   (05.28.06)
3. So amnasty international is worried about a traitor!
jason white ,   afula,israel   (05.28.06)
They care about the a traitor to Israel,but not about Pollard. If they caught hitler alive today,they would worry about his rights.What a sad sack of s___ they are.
4. i will sop buying any of microsoft product......
aa ,   london   (05.28.06)
5. as of today I will use MICROSOFT products only
(05.28.06)
6. I'm with you #5
Iris ,   Jerusalem Israel   (05.28.06)
7. Somebody is still buying Micro$oft products? :-)
(05.28.06)
8. Amnesty's kneejerk criticism of Israel
Raymond from DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (05.29.06)
It's typical of Amnesty International to jump on any action deemed to support Israel's security interests. One only need look at the frequency of AI's "reviews" of Israeli action compared to those of almost any other country. (They subject the US to similar discriminatory treatment.) The fact is that Vanunu was convicted of violating state secrets and continues to undermine the security interests of the state. Many would argue that he should be thrown back in jail and forgotten for violatiing the terms of his release, and I'd agree with them. Microsoft's actions are merely the response to a legitimate criminal investigation. Those who declare their intent to boycott or support Microsoft based on that response are only showing their biases. (As for me, I'll stick with my Mac.)
9. So, what's wrong?... Microsoft can only be proud!
Tahl ,   Israel   (05.28.06)
I've expressed my opinion here many times about what I think of British intellectuals and authorities (hint: it's nothing flattering) and their opinion of Israel, so this news piece is hardly a surprise. If anything, this only works in favor of Microsoft's reputation: it shows how they are serving the right side of the law, helping contain a crazed, deranged, and dangerous lunatic willing to abuse the sensitive information in his possession. Toda raba, Microsoft! And who cares about the %#*$@ Amnesty Brits. As we say - let the stupid dogs bark, as the procession moves along.
10. Why was he not jailed for LIFE, that would have been smarter
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (05.29.06)
11. 1 yoel, Switzerland: You said it ALL and Amnesty is as
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.29.06)
usual totally out of reality - and should shut up - Legal investigations in any corruption or as espionage etc... are none of Amnesty's business By Law any ISP - Internet web forum as Ynet - anything concerning the Internet - is by LAW everywhere obliged to devulge and help investigations . Most ISP's will store over long time all info. Finally it is as well known that the Carnivore system is used by all Intel operations in all countries.
12. 4 aa, london: Good stop using the internet - we will be
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.29.06)
every so happy
13. I hope the money I paid for ms software directly contributed
DPC ,   England, UK   (05.29.06)
14. OMG...you stupid people...
Elokim ,   Israel   (05.29.06)
If you are smart enough to know that this "company" could use info back on you even if you did NOT do what Vanunu did!!! Now if the "government" wants info on you....all they need to do is ask the "company" to hand over your info. Google was smart enough NOT to do this when the US asked for info!!! If you would break yourselves from using Gates and get Jobs!! You would know just how BAD the "company" is!! Try OS X now, you would see what the "company" is going to be coming out with NEXT YEAR with Vista/Longhorn!!! You are all infected with this VIRUS called microsoft. And Gabby please be quite...Thanks!! Come back when you know what you are talking about!!
15. Go Bill Go!
Preston ,   USA   (05.29.06)
Bill Gates and Warren Buffett didn't get to be the world's richest men by being stupid. They recognize Israel's accomplishments and support this amazing little nation. As for Vanunununu... and Arabsty International, who gives a rat's ass? They are traitors to Israel and the world, respectively. Love MS products and Berkshire Hathaway!!!
16. Amnesty should worry about Google working with Chinese govt.
AK   (05.29.06)
in suppressing any voices for freedom. China's to big to take on by Amnesty? I understand. Israel is much, much smaller and really easy to pick on. Brave, brave Amnesty fighting for human rights. Not.
17. Amusing
Morris ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (05.29.06)
I just find it amusing how so many people said they would now resort to pirating or boycotting Microsoft products upon hearing about Bill Gates' buying the Gaza greenhouses for the Palestinians... and now everyone's confessing their undying support to the company...
18. We should have shot Vanunu, he is a traitor.
Avraham ,   Netivot   (05.29.06)
19. 14 Elokim, Israel: Wake up ! I am not quiet ! silly You
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (05.29.06)
Reality is that ALL ISP's and all Internet etc. can legally be forced to disclose information in and for any criminal action . with a Carnivore system, now called DCS 1000, as well one can tell in 30 seconds who you are That's how the world functions and legally functions - this is how thw world needs to function - to secure Your silly life - but millions of others How do you think terrorism and the enemy in general is being fought Your ISP you use - is obliged by law to cooperate if the need arises. Thanks to this we have many terror attacks thwarted and know where to find cells The e-mail system (internet) is a device installed at an Internet company to capture e-mails sent or received by criminal suspects. Authorities have used Carnivore-type tools many times in all types of criminal cases, to catch fugitives, drug dealers, extortionists and suspected foreign intelligence agents. The investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks also has moved online, as agents track down e-mail addresses and Web sites used by the airline hijackers who wrecked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Some of the wiretapping and electronic surveillance portions of the terrorism legislation, which largely expands such powers, expired at the end of 2005. The Carnivore reporting requirement is permanent, however. Electronic surveillance can expose those who harbor or finance terrorists. This largely prevents mass murder. It is part of any country's security and cooperation between countries. Thanks to that we may survive - including you Now don't ever tell me to be quiet - since you are not in the position to have thanksfully - such power. You are just a silly individual with no comprehension of important facts that secure millions of lives.
20. Microsoft helping Israeli police
Greg ,   Melbourne, Australia   (05.30.06)
I consider myself a peaceful person and always believed Jews to be the same. I just cannot bring myself to believe that these comments from so called Israelis talking about killing traitors are really Jews. Jews would not talk about killing traitors. Thier God told them ' thou shall not kill '. Unless God himself is a traitor to Israel. Who else but a traitor, would not support the killing of a traitor to Isreal
21. Greg you're wasting your time talking to
prophet bob ,   erehwon, amerika   (05.30.06)
these people. They and the rest of the like minded Likkudnik zionists have sealed the fate of israel. They have put that sad country so far down the road to self destruction nothing will save it. Their myopic hatred and bigotry is in evidence every single day on this website. Hear my words Oh israel! Thou art a nation of vipers. Truly thou have lost thy way. The innocent amongst you can see this. So why do the foolish there think they can hide this from G_d? He knows what is in your hearts! The time of the great judgement approachth. Do you hear it rumbling in the distance? Repent lest thou face utter destruction. Thus sayeth the prophet bob!
22. Gabrielle, you think..
Jerppa ,   Helsinki Finland   (05.30.06)
...potential terrorists are unaware of surveillance? That they are incapable of operating without e-mail? Name a terrorist convicted thanks to Carnivore-type surveillance, go on, just one. Then think about the hundreds if not thousands of innocent people whose lives have been disrupted by these same tools. "You are just a silly individual with no comprehension of important facts that secure millions of lives." You said it.
23. I have the exclusive interview available now. :)
robert jones ,   parkville missouri   (05.31.06)
I have the worlds only video interview on location of Vanunu and his statement to the world regarding the policies of Western countries and Israel. This is an intelligent and unrehearsed statement given freely by Mr. Vanunu on many aspects of his case. In addition a small portion of this interview was aired on Speigel T:V: of Hamburg Germany -ÖÜÄ - in April of 2005. That portion contained what could be considered deliberate anti semetic overtones whereas the interview which is my sole property is in no way insulting to the state or people of Israel. It is in fact the most honest journalism available under any conditions with no preparation of the subject for the statement given. 9137102658 beingthere@sbcglobal.net Modernmedia Productions The exclusive and definitive Vanunu interview. i will send a low res demo to anyone who requests this - send inquiry to the enclosed email address.
24. Gates and Vanunu
peter kirsch ,   Cape Town, South Afr   (05.31.06)
So even the world's richest man has been bought by the Zionists! I thought he had more brains and more integrity. I'm off now to buy an Apple and throw my Windows out the window.
25. So Amnesty International is worried about a traitor
aj ,   Atlanta USA   (05.31.06)
Well Jason, i dont think Case of POllard and Vanunu is not the same. Vanunu was trying to warn people about the Weapon of Mass destruction Israel was making and Pollard was stealing information from USA and gave them to another country's government. Who in turn gave these information to Soviet Union and lot of US intelligence officer got killed after their identity were revealed by these stolen information. But ironically Israeli president, Prime minister is asking for a pardon of a traitor. i am speechless.
26. Resources
Rockpruf ,   Chicago, IL   (05.31.06)
If you're stupid enough to use your own car to flee the scene of your bank robbery, your own gun to kill, your own house to hide the evidence then you deserve the time. I am surprised that hiding/destroying evidence is not more seriously considered in the cyber-world. The lesson being that one should never use your own hardware or your own network when attempting something that you do not want anyone to find out.
27. We are all in this Together
sam mink ,   Sydney Australia   (06.01.06)
We Human are born blind we are born with an idea giving to us by our parents and we become slaves to this idea ,and through out our life we hate other people and kill each others and we all in every life we get to be born with different idea and every life we think the idea giving to us is the right one but one thing we all can,t see is no matter what idea we born into , we all born slaves and we fail to see that we all are one and we should all hold hands and love each others ,we don,t need nuclear weapon we need to love each other .
28. IS THERE NO JUSTICE IN THE WORLD
PURO ,   ATL USA   (06.02.06)
SO I GUESS IS OK FOR ANY COUNTRY TO HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, THEN WHY WORRY ABOUT IRAN, I MEAN ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF THE GOVERMENT DOES SOMETHING IMPROPPER THEY SHOULD JUST LET THEM DO IT.
29. Horrible Country
Free Vanunu NOW!   (06.09.06)
What a horrible, hate-focused country Israel has become. How sad to see such revolting bigotry and cruelty. Israel is a nation that knows no justice - and jails its finest citizens. Shame!
30. Amnesty: Microsoft helped Israeli Police in Vanunu probe
Jim ,   Perth   (06.19.06)
It is spelt Micro$oft? Ahh, Linux.....
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