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EU commissioner : We won’t recognize realignment
Ronny Sofer
Published: 19.06.06, 12:11
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31. No need recognition
Brod ,   USA   (06.19.06)
Israel does not need recognition of any entity intruding in Israel affairs. In fact, the EU should stop meddling in Israel affairs. They are just becoming an instrument for Islamist-Jihadists as the Nazis in WWII. The Nazis were supported by the Islamist-Jihadists led by Al Husseini. They all have one goal and that is the elimination of the Jewish people. Hence, Israel should regard those who meddle with their internal affairs as working for the enemies of Israel.
32. 29 Viveka: Just tell us who you personally were having been
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (06.19.06)
granted to VOTE on - when - who was the person you elected etc... to the Parliament. This is NOT democracy A Parliament without a Sovereignity such as a State, without a world recognition, etc... I know the set up inside-out - because we the Swiss voted twice if we wanted to join that none democratic club We have had all clauses and section etc... I think you may just not understand the actual construction - were You ever asked to vote in a Referendum to be asked your advise ? We Swiss were - and we know also each detail and voted on each part of the Bilateral agreements Switzerland signed with the EU - A none state entity. Such can be cancelled once more in 2007 and 2011 - by The Swiss Voter Finally it outrules any and all Sovereign States constitutions - such as the Swiss one ......... The National Sovereignity from states is lost - that's what one calls NOT democracy but the first Step to A Socialist Sytem - and that's what also the UN wants - Global Government rule - based on Global Socialism where the citizen has NO more to say - and is ruled instead Very close to what Marxis was/is - and what after the W.W.II the world was trying to get away from - esp. from that - The State Tells you what you do - not any more the voter This is robbing of freedom isn't going to survive.
33. Kirsten #1
Hilda ,   USA   (06.20.06)
What carrots? They haven't ever oftered Israel any encouragement. But as for your buddies the Pals. They could have had a state at the same time as Israel but they wanted a middle east without Jews and that they will never get. Israel is a Jewish State and will G-d willing always will.
34. Recognizing a dropped ball
Steve ,   USA   (06.20.06)
B"H To quote YNET's heading: "European Union’s External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner says ‘EU will not recognize any borders between Israel, Palestinian Authority determined by unilateral steps.' " Given that Hamas is positioned on the other side and Hamas does not recognize ANY BORDERS, that does nothing for Europe's recognition of Israel. Is it that Europe only recognizes Israel if it has no defined borders? If it insists on bilateral steps with Hamas which is basically a Syrian organization under the Syrian thumb, it is asking Israel to negotiate nonmilitarily with a brick wall that invokes Hisbollah every once in a while. That is like a Jew saying he believes in Judiasm as a religion, but not as a nation with a territory with defined boundaries! So much for a European concept of a Jewish state within fixed boundaries. I am sure of one thing, though. Europe will recognize the Arab side of the border if one is ever drawn, and protest high in the sky if that Arab side is altered by Israel. Just invade Gaza, and I am sure to hear a response from Europe on how some border was violated that Europe does not recognize here. It is just a big game, and I am glad that I do not have to head up relations with Europe on this because these circles are dizzying nonsense. But the point of it is do not expect favors from the world on your boundaries Israel. If they are your boundaries, you are going to have to stand up for them and not expect Europe to do so for you. Every Jewish home is a boundary that needs an individual level of protection on par with that of a nation.
35. 32#
Viveka ,   Finland   (06.20.06)
It isn’t about getting granted to vote on somebody anymore than it is about getting granted to vote somebody to the national parliament. But, if you’re interested, here’s my candidate-she got elected as well. :) http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/view.do?country=FI&partNumber=1&id=4258&language=EN I don’t feel my country has lost its sovereignty; on the contrary, my generation is the first with such a wealth of opportunities. That’s due to globalisation, but also due to the principle of free movement of persons, goods, services, and capital. And no, I was not asked to vote for the Referendum, however, that’s not because of the EU, but a decision made by the Finnish government. To me it doesn’t matter though, cos I back the Referendum, and cos it has been a constant topic here; the Finns who paid attention to what their candidates were saying prior to the elections also became familiar with their EU stance. Also, if a member country wishes to leave the EU, it can do so.
36. 35 Viveka: Keep on dreaming You obviously are very young
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (06.20.06)
and you have not really studied the Socialistic Global world Government If the EU has not overurled Your Finnish Constitution then you have NOT studied the EU and or Your own Constitution But if this is fine for YOU - get ruled like Sheep Swiss people are theSovereign and we have a direct democracy - so we the people say what's up - No one else - that's why the EU - for us is NOT freedom May be we Swiss not the Norwegians like to be run like Sheep Well ... since you love to follow the sheep and think you are better off Then Finland in your opinion must have been ina poor state ? Switzerland actually fares much better in economy etc. by NOT being part. When switzerland voted twice NO to the EU - our shares and stoxk market raised at once. our banking and other Industry went up in ratings Etc.... But some people like to be Sheep
37. 35 Viveka : So YOU have personally NO say - While me as A
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (06.20.06)
Swiss - I have the say in ALL
38. #36
Viveka ,   Finland   (06.21.06)
Companies, including European companies, transfer their businesses to cheap labor countries these days. This is the prevailing situation, and it is not likely to change. The key word is “profit” – how does this correlate with socialism? Btw. I googled the “socialist global world government” and got zero results. Could you refer me some pages where I can learn about this system I’m actually being threatened by? Also, the biggest reason why Norway didn’t join the EU is cos they have oil. Finland doesn’t have assets such as good location, banking system that would play an important role in economy, or natural resources. It has needed more networking and lobbying-all of which has been easier thanks to the EU. And, yes, Finland was in a bad state, not only did it go through the worst economic depression of its history at the beginning of the nineties (worst crisis in Finland since WWII), it also needed a stronger and more stable currency. Also, through the EU membership Finland obtained the possibility to promote itself and more effectively participate in decision making without losing its identity – a considerable change to the previous heavy economic and social pressure from the Soviet Union, and later Russia. Finnish economic growth has been one percentage point higher than it would have been outside the EU. We have a representative democracy here, we elect candidates who represent the voters and their opinions. Also, we have a tradition of trusting the elected MPs, most of whom are not in office for the first time. There actually was a referendum in 1995, that’s where the Finnish people decided about joining the EU. In other words, our membership is a direct result of the will of the Finnish people. And, according to recent polls, most people here are content with the EU. Also, as I already wrote, and what you ignored, is that according to the new constitution, a member state can leave the EU if it wishes to do so. The EU is not perfect, but Finland has obtained more positive things by joining it.
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