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Israel: Hizbullah firing on Christian holy city
Ronny Sofer
Published: 19.07.06, 20:23
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1. give us a break
Rustum ,   London, UK   (07.19.06)
Israeli diplomats are on an offensive claiming that Hizbullah is trying to hit the Christian holy places. As if the Israeli government is now trying to posit itself as the protector of the Christian holy places. That's a big laugh. And a protector of Christians? That's another big laugh - Israeli bombs haven't distinguished between Moslems and christians in Lebanon - and in the mass dirven exodus of 1948, the Yishuv was just as happy to profit from stolen Christian property as it was from stolen Moslem property. It is a total catastrophe in the Middle East now. People dying all over the place - thanks for the Iraqi wisdom of the great wise George Bush and his crawling stooges in the Israeli government. The only thing being expressed through the Israeli destruction of Lebanon is the utter disregard of Israel's civilian and military leaders for non-Jewish life - but then, that's nothing new is it.
2. Every Israeli Arab should now say "thank you" to sana
Arie   (07.19.06)
THEIR MKs OPENLY pushed for hezbullah to kidnap Israelis, the end result is now the attacks on arabs by their "pali brothers" in the Christian Holy City of Nazareth. Every Israeli Arab should remember to send candies as a "thank you" to their arab MKs as they bury the innocent ARAB CHRISTIAN baby brothers!
3. Rustum
Geraint ,   St Ives Cornwall   (07.19.06)
You live on stolen land Rustum. What is the UK but land stolen from the indigenous Welsh and Cornish?
4. "Jews and Arabs and Christians"??
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (07.19.06)
arabs in nazareth are christian and muslim. what does this intelligent person in the foreign ministry mean by "arabs AND christians"??
5. To rustum from the uk you british are always ready
red peppers ,   caribbean   (07.19.06)
to take the moral high ground.You should go do some research on your brutal history and misery that you cause and people are still feeling its effects today. Some of you are nothing but a bunch of 'cheap bastards' who would rather drink and smoke you life away rather than give a dime to make to this world a better place
6. #1 - give it a rest Justdumb you big moron...
Andy   (07.19.06)
Your lies and BS won't stop Israel from clearing the trash that is Hezbollah from the region or at least from Israel's border. Of course Israel is going to talk about them shelling Nazareth. And you can keep crying about 1948, while 2006 slips away and the Palestinian leadership still can't get its shit together and build a state. If the Yishuv were in the Gazans place, with the entire strip free of Jews for what is approching a year, there would be foreign tourists from Arab countries jet skiing up and down the Gaza coast by now. They would be negotiating with the Israeli government about moving the wall, land exchanges, final border status, industry, commerce, agriculture, infrastruture and more. They would be developing a culture of compromise and the value of life. But no, they keep shelling Sderot and Ashkelon, suicide bombing, tunnelling and grabbing solders and preaching hate. There is enough blame between Israel and Palestine to drown both peoples, but what about the future? How come you never talk about that?
7. JEWS WERE THE FIRST CHRISTIANS - A RECONNECTION
ANDREW ,   MIAMI,FL   (07.19.06)
ITS TIME FOR ISRAEL TO RECLAIM ALL OF HER BIRTHRIGHT - AND THAT INCLUDES THE RABBI JOSHUA (JESUS) DONT SYNICALLY USE THIS FOR PROPOGANDA !! LOOK AT NAZARETH AND BETHLEHEM FOR WHAT THEY SHOULD BE - ISRAELS BIRTHRIGHT TO ITS OWN NATIONAL HISTORY, AND A RECONNECTION WITH ONE OF HER OWN, AND THE GREAT GIFT WE HAVE GIVEN TO THE WORLD
8. http://www.icej.org - NUFF SAID
Rabbi Joshua ,   Bethlehem-Nazareth   (07.19.06)
THE INTERNATIONAL CHRISTIAN EMBASSY IN JERUSALEM NO - ISRAEL DOESNT HATE THE CHRISTIANS - JUST THE OPPOSITE
9. Old dirty game
(07.19.06)
to push Moslems against Christians , old dirty zionists game , too old , find a new one this don't work anymore
10. #4
lebanese christian ,   USA   (07.19.06)
He means that christians are not and will never be arabs jarabs. Got it bro. We want to finish from the goat issue. Arabs and muslims came from the goat desert and occupied our lands
11. 1 Rustumtumtum Post exageration again But If this were ALL
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (07.19.06)
Jews only dying he would not even be here this Islamic Extremist sitting on his fat fanny in Londonistan go to the reagion as Human Shield - You little coward
12. What is the Promised Land?
A Poet ,   God's Heartland   (07.19.06)
My fellow Christian, Jewish, and Muslim brothers and sisters, how do you understand the term “Promised Land?” Is the Promised Land the certain PEACE of God’s Kingdom that is produced by a harmonious spiritual fellowship with God and all His children? Is it a state of being that you can take with you anywhere, even to the most distant galaxies? Or is the Promised Land a certain PIECE of God’s Kingdom that is an infinitesimal parcel of real estate in this universe? Is a particular tiny portion of this planet the only possible place to commune with an infinite God? If the Promised Land is a discrete piece of physical property, then this conflict is no more than a bloody, centuries long probate dispute over who inherits Abraham’s estate. Does the land go only to the sons of Isaac, or only to the sons of Ishmael, and to the exclusion of the rest of God’s children? Poets wrote the Torah and the Koran. Poets write metaphorically or symbolically. The words they choose represent concepts far greater than the words’ literal meaning or dictionary definitions. Understood symbolically, the term “Promised Land” is the certain PEACE of God’s Infinite Kingdom. Understood literally it is a certain infinitesimal PIECE of God’s Kingdom. The life you will experience depends on how you see the Promised Land. One vision produces an expanse of infinite possibilities. The other version produces a restricted area with blood soaked stains. I know which vision I prefer. Shalom.
13. To Rustum
Alex ,   Mexico   (07.19.06)
Jews and arbs lived in that land together under difernt types of ocupations for many many years. It was in 1948 that the arab countries started a war against jews and it didn´t matter where they were. Hundreds of thousands of jews were slautered in arab countries, the women where raped in front of their fathers and mothers before they were killed. Their lands were stolen and whole comunitties where wiped of the face of the earth. The groups of arabs that are called Palestinians today did´t existed as such untill an egiptian took advantage of the missery that came after a war that the arab countries arround israel started. (preety much as an austrian took advantage of the german situation after WW1). The jews won legitimately the right to settle and have a country of their own from the british. The rest of the land was rightfully, Jordan, Egiptian and Syrian, but that wasn´t enough. They started a war against Israel despite the suffer that it would bring to the arabs, exactly the same way that Hisbollah doen´t care about the suffering of the lebanese people. And yes, the Israelis have protected the cristian holy sites, and the muslim holy sites has kept them with their rightfull owners, and thats why Jew extremists (cause there are some) haven´t been able to blow the muslim holy places
14. to #1 rectum
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.19.06)
How much Jewish property was stolen by christians and moslems?How many Jews were slaughted by christians and moslems? you are just a nasty little sandcrab and you are wrong we worry too much about the enemy.We should have killed a thousand times more lebanese and wiped out the palis cancer.I hope we will someday soon!
15. What is the Promised Land?
A Poet ,   God's Heartland   (07.19.06)
My fellow Christian, Jewish, and Muslim brothers and sisters, how do you understand the term “Promised Land?” Is the Promised Land the certain PEACE of God’s Kingdom that is produced by a harmonious spiritual fellowship with God and all His children? Is it a state of being that you can take with you anywhere, even to the most distant galaxies? Or is the Promised Land a certain PIECE of God’s Kingdom that is an infinitesimal parcel of real estate in this universe? Is a particular tiny portion of this planet the only possible place to commune with an infinite God? If the Promised Land is a discrete piece of physical property, then this conflict is no more than a bloody, centuries long probate dispute over who inherits Abraham’s estate. Does the land go only to the sons of Isaac, or only to the sons of Ishmael, and to the exclusion of the rest of God’s children? Poets wrote the Torah and the Koran. Poets write metaphorically or symbolically. The words they choose represent concepts far greater than the words’ literal meaning or dictionary definitions. Understood symbolically, the term “Promised Land” is the certain PEACE of God’s Infinite Kingdom. Understood literally it is a certain infinitesimal PIECE of God’s Kingdom. The life you will experience depends on how you see the Promised Land. One vision produces an expanse of infinite possibilities. The other vision produces a restricted area with blood soaked stains. I know which vision I prefer. Shalom.
16. So it is okay to bomb the holy Jewish cities?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.19.06)
So we can not complain about the holy cities of Safad and Tiberia being bombed.Or the arabs taking over the holy Jewish city of Hebron and wanting our Jewish capitol of Jerusalem? What if we bombed or took over their "holy" cities and sites?They would go crazier than they are now.
17. Read #5 First
CPeterson ,   USA   (07.19.06)
Is that why Brits' always have beautiful teeth? Rustum, get off your high horse and go see a dentist!
18. "Old dirty zionists game"
BS meter ,   Canada   (07.20.06)
Geez, that's too bad, it worked so well during the Crusades and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, when Jews so successfully pushed the peace-loving Muslims and Christians against each other. I guess we'll need a new strategy in our goal of world domination...
19. Rustum And some info on why there are no palestinians.
Jose ,   Hollywood Florida   (07.20.06)
Israel is the only country in the region that protects the Christian, Muslim, and Jewish Holy sites. Unlike when the israelis took Back Jerusalem and found that all jewish and christian holy sites where destroyed and had to be rebuilt. FYI palestinian comes from the name philistines that the Romans gave to the land of the jews(israel) and the funny part is the Word philistine means "Invaders" in Hebrew.
20. ISLAMIST HATE ATTACKS ON G-D & JEWISH & CHRISTIAN HOLY SITES
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.20.06)
There NEVER was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. In the 1948 Islamic invasion of the Jewish Holy Land, Jordan destroyed 58 sacred synagogues in Jerusalem. Since 1996, Rachel's Tomb, near Bethlehem, has been attacked by Muslim snipers, bombs and Molotov cocktails. In October 2000, Muslims torched and destroyed the ancient synagogue in Jericho. In 2005, Muslims desecrated and destroyed sacred Gaza synagogues. Joseph is the beloved Bible hero of Jews and Christians. Muslims murdered IDF soldiers at Joseph's Tomb. Muslim mobs BURNED BIBLES and Jewish prayer books that gave praise and glory to the One great G-D, and destroyed the Tomb. In the Islamic invasion and filthy desecration of Jesus Christ' birthplace, Church of Nativity, BIBLES were TORN UP for TOILET PAPER. Inscribed in the Bibles are the Laws G-D gave to Moses; the Laws our Western civilization is founded on: Exodus 20: "You shall not murder" "You shall not commit adultery" "You shall not steal" "You shall not bear false witness" "You shall not covet" Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death" Leviticus 24:17 "If a man takes the life of any human being, he shall surely be put to death" Global Islamo-Fascists seek the total destruction of Western civilization. JERUSALEM is mentioned OVER 800 TIMES in the BIBLE, not once in the Koran. G-D designated the Temple Mount to the Jews for His worship and prayer only. Muslims on the Temple Mount repeatedly engage in massive rock throwing at Jews, turning the HOLIEST place on earth into a common place of violence! Muslims have perpetrated massive desecration and destruction at Judaism's HOLIEST site, the Temple Mount. The OFFENSE to G-D is enormous! The Temple Mount must be returned to its Jewish owners immediately!
21. RUTHLESS PERSECUTION DRIVES OUT PA CHRISTIANS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.20.06)
A Christmas without Christians By Abraham H. Miller FrontPageMagazine.com | December 16, 2005 Since the Palestinian Authority’s takeover of Bethlehem in 1995, under the Oslo Accords with Israel, Bethlehem has been transformed from a Christian city into a Muslim city. Bethlehem’s remaining Christians now live in a condition of dhimmitude (a reference to the second-class citizenship Islam imposes on Christians) in the city of Jesus’ birth. The Palestinians brought with them a political system based on primitive tribal relations, where the power of one’s clan became a substitute for the law. As a consequence, Christians have suffered civil outrage and criminal violence without recourse to justice. Christians have been refusing to live under these conditions and have been leaving Bethlehem in large numbers. ....the Orwellian message of the American Arab Anti-discrimination Committee (AADC) that held a candle lighting vigil on November 29, 2005 for Bethlehem’s Christians at San Francisco’s Union Square... Muslims in Bethlehem make the lives of Christians unbearable and force them to flee their ancestral homes while Muslims in America hold a vigil to blame the Jews. To understand how the Christians became a minority and the victims of thuggery in the city of Jesus’ birth, it is important to see just what Arafat did to Bethlehem once he got his hands on it. In 1995, Yasser Arafat gained control of Bethlehem and immediately expanded its municipal boundaries to include 30,000 Muslims living in neighboring refugee camps. Next, Muslim Bedouins living east of Bethlehem were incorporated into revised municipal boundaries. All this was still not enough for the PA to change the status of Bethlehem as a Christian city. But then Arafat created inducements for Muslims to leave Hebron and the area around it and move to Bethlehem. With Arafat’s government by clan, by gun, and by terror, a land Mafia developed that began expropriating land from Christians. In 2002, two Christian teenage sisters were found with their throats slit and their genitals mutilated. Muslims claimed the Amer sisters were prostitutes, as if that were justification for torture and murder. But Christians familiar with similar incidents claim the girls were murdered to cover up a gang rape. Of course, none of this appears in the AADC’s call for the candlelight vigil that is also designed to showcase the AADC’s divestment campaign against Israel. Indeed, just this week, the Vatican, in a rare diplomatic move, called publicly on the Israelis to intervene in Bethlehem on behalf of its severely receding Christian population. Now totaling less than 12% of Bethlehem’s population, Christians, who have been the targets of continual PA violence, might leave entirely. The result will be that in the place where Jesus was born there will no longer be a Christian community. In the West Bank town of Taibe marauding Muslims burned, looted and beat Christian residents in the name of a Muslim family’s “honor,” a family whose father had brutally beaten his daughter to death for wanting to marry a Christian. The violent Muslim mob burned a statue of the Virgin Mary and shouted, “Burn the Crusaders!” PA fire and security forces took their time arriving on the scene, appearing hours later. In the end, the mob was almost immediately released from jail. Meanwhile, the Christian fiancée of the murdered woman was arrested and beaten while incarcerated. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20567
22. MECCA IS HOLY TO MUSLIMS; JERUSALEM IS HOLY TO THE JEWS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.20.06)
There NEVER was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. At the time of Muhammad's death, there was not a single mosque in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is mentioned over 800 times in the Bible, not once in the Koran. Muslims pray facing Mecca. It is Muslim practice to take over, desecrate and destroy the holy sites of other religions-Jews, Christians, Hindus, Bhuddists, et al. Muslims build mosques on top of the holy sites of other religions to signify that their religion is superior to all others. Muslims did this on the Temple Mount. During the time Jordan controlled Jerusalem from 1948-1967, no foreign Arab leaders visited Jerusalem. Jordanian radio broadcast Friday prayers not from Al-Aqsa Mosque, but from a mosque in Amman. Jordan destroyed 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. Jordan's army desecrated the 2,500 year old Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives and used Jewish tombstones for pavement and latrines. All land, homes, businesses and buildings seized in the 1948 Islamic invasion of Judea, Samaria, Gaza and east Jerusalem must be returned to Jews immediately. 13th Century Arab biographer Yakut, noted: "Mecca is holy to Muslims; Jerusalem is holy to the Jews."
23. The Lord's Home town
marthalee ,   seattle, USA   (07.22.06)
I wept for the mother of those boys as I prayed for Israel, and I wept for the city so precious to our faith. Nazareth; childhood home of God in the flesh; a city that never knew a rocket now defiled by the violence of evil hatred and jealousy. My tears dampen my prayers for you, always!
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