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Mubarak: 'External elements' prevented Shalit's release
Roee Nahmias
Published: 20.07.06, 08:43
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1. Resistance - the dream died a long time ago.
Talula ,   Israel   (07.20.06)
The only word these pathetic Losers can repeatedly use is 'resistance'. Has anyone EVER heard an Arab leader, apart from Muhammad Anwar as-Sadat, give a noteworthy speech? NEVER. THE ENTIRE world is sick and tired of hearing the same old shit from from Hamas. Change the record!!!!!! You have lost the battle, you have lost the war, go out with a little dignity. Start to take care of your own people's suffering before you take on a battle with a country, a battle that you will never win.
2. Abbas has refused to mediate bet. Israel and Hamas
Ibrahim ,   S.Arabia   (07.20.06)
Even Abbas, a Palestinian, does not want to deal with terrorist Hammas.
3. Mubarak ....Shalit's release
Oskar Prager ,   Petach Tikva   (07.20.06)
Talula, item 1 has expressed 100% what everyone in the country is thinking.
4. external like in IRAN and friends!
linda   (07.20.06)
5. To #1 on battle never to be won....
Hussam ,   Gaza   (07.20.06)
In the thousands of years since the last sovereign Jewish entity in Palestine, Jews heard the same: they will never win the battle to establish their sovereignty on this land. But it happened. From the Palestinian perspective, there is nothing that cannot be achieved, with time. The sequence of history is as follows: no Jewish state for 1000's of years, then Jewish state for a few decades, then no Jewish state for 1000's of years, Jewish state for a few decades, then......
6. Nobody knows the future, Hussam,
Ephraim ,   Tel Aviv   (07.20.06)
neither you nor I. But I believe that you are wrong. About fifty years ago, Konrad Adenauer, the first Chancellor of Germany after the 2nd World War, told journalists that he became aware that the Germans would lose the war when he noticed that the German authorities were lying in the information they gave in the newspapers and on the radio. Whenever I read your newspapers, Hussam, whenever I listen to your radio stations and look at your television programs, I become very happy: I know that Israel will remain. You know, I am one of those Israelis who believe that there should be a Palestinian State. But I know that one cannot impose the truth on people who prefer lies, one cannot impose life on people who prefer death, and one cannot impose a State on people who prefer destruction.
7. re: #6 Ephraim TRUISM
HBendor ,   New York USA   (07.20.06)
I like what you say Ephraim and it is also most opportune to repeat this 'TRUISM' every hour, minute and every second. But please answer this… Why should this be the role of the Israelis to create yet another Arab State from part of the 'Land of the Jewish Patrimony' in addition to the 22 Arab States created this past century for their Self-Determination?
8. Hussam, take swimming Lessons!!!
Yitzi ,   The Jewish State   (07.20.06)
9. 5 - The war is won
Talula ,   Israel   (07.20.06)
Let's look at the facts as they are today shall we. 80.1% of the population in Israel are Jews, the rest is made up of Christians, Arabs, Druze etc. Now, do you think that 80.1% of the Israeli population is going to pack up, leave their homes so you can move in? You are deluding yourself if you think that's the case. You had your chance to live side by side, but you got greedy and now you have nothing. What have you built or made in Gaza that allows it to be called a state? You have nothing. You don't even have the basic infrastructure required to look after your people. You don't have your own resources for water, electricity and food but you do have plenty of make your own rocket factories. Aren't you tired? Aren't you tired of fighting for something that you know you can never have? And if you spend your life hoping and fighting you will die a very unfulfilled person. Give up your madness and evil and try to make a place that people want to visit. So, you can prattle on and on about Palestinian perspectives, but the fact is, you don't have one. You don't want our land, you know it doesn't belong to you, you just want the comfortable life that we Israelis have worked very hard to build for ourselves.
10. From Zalmi a propos piece
HBendor ,   New York USA   (07.20.06)
Dear World I understand that you are upset by us, about Israel. Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry. (Outraged?) Indeed, every few years you seem to become upset by us. Today, it is the "brutal repression of the Palestinians"; yesterday it was Lebanon; before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War and the Sinai Campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph and who, therefore, live, upset you most extraordinarily. Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we - the Jewish People - upset you. We upset a German people who elected Hitler and upset an Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations - Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians and Romanians. And we go back a long, long way in the history of world upset. We Upset the Cossacks of Chmielnicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we upset the Crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holy Land, were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us. For centuries, we upset a Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through inquisitions, and we upset the arch-enemy of the Church, Martin Luther, who, in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews Within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit. And it is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you - in a manner of speaking - and establish a Jewish State. The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you and disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you (and thus love you) - and have you love us and so, we decided to come home - home to the same land we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman World that, apparently, we also upset. Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please. Having left you and your pogroms and inquisitions and crusades and holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state, we continue to upset you. You are upset that we repress the poor Palestinians. You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The "radical" Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset. Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel. In 1920 and 1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody. Nevertheless, the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered tens of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in Hebron in 1929.
11. Second part of Zalmi's piece
HBendor ,   New York USA   (07.20.06)
Dear world, why did the Arabs - the Palestinians - massacre 67 Jews in one Day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots between 1936-39? Was it because Arabs were upset over 1967? And when you, dear world, proposed a UN Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a "Palestinian State" alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried "no" and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews - was that "upset" caused by the aggression of 1967? And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of "upset" then? The poor Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are part of the same people who - when they had all the territories they now demand be given to them for their state - attempted to drive the Jewish state into the sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate, the same cry of "itbach-al-yahud" (Massacre the Jew!) that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream - destroy Israel. What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today, but we should not "repress" them. Dear world, you stood by during the holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres. You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction. And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians dream daily of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear world, well - think of how many times in the past you bothered us. In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew who could not care less. www.zalmi.net
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