Culture  Yair Lapid
Today's soldiers don't want to be heroes, they want to come home for Shabbat
Yair Lapid
Published: 09.08.06, 12:27
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1. DO NOT BE A HERO , DO NOT DEFEND YOUR LAND ????????!!!!!!!!
AVINU   (08.09.06)
______________________???????_ ___________!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ????????........
2. Be a Hero
adonis ,   Lebanon   (08.09.06)
To be a Hero in the zionist way: killing children and women and escaping in front of real men. The best example is the army chief who had three times trouble in stomach. Hope that you will take some medicie before coming to 100 meters in my Land.
3. The Israeli Soldier
Ahmad ,   Gaza   (08.09.06)
The Israeli soldier is the biggest coward on the face of the earth. They are the like of Pussycats hiding behind a barrage of supersize weaponry. Once the israeli soldier faces the reality of death on the battle field, he's the first one to cry out for his mama.. Ask me, I've seen it dozens of times in the palestinian territories.. So yeah, yair lapid does have a point there, but he's just saying it in a very soothing and vague way....
4. 3: hiding behind supersize weaponry?
avishay ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (08.09.06)
To Ahmad, who wrote comment #3: You call the Israeli soldier a coward for "hiding behind a barrage of supersize weaponry". I call the Palestinian terrorist a coward for hiding behind women and children.
5. no "primary group" in the IDF?
Visitor ,   from Palestine   (08.09.06)
To Yair: I like this article very much, there seems to be a deep truth hidden. The "primary group", a term coined in 1948 - when people tried to un- derstand the huge battle perfor- mance of the german "Wehrmacht", which withstood outnumbered 1:10 and more not only one time against massive onslaughts from enemies (without breaking apart). There is a psychological factor in- volved that lets you "care for com- rades and ideas" instead of "care for your own ass". This factor was called "The primary group". Each unit has to have deep per- sonal relations between their mem- bers - high above the pure military custom. In Germany they created units from like people, especially sorted after regional origin. It looks like the Hesbolla has got something like "primary group" composition, maybe by chance. And IDF has, besides the decreed "we are all jews and all the same" nothing real to show in this context. So prove me wrong - if you can. Regards Visitor
6. defend their lands???
Mayssa ,   Lebanon   (08.09.06)
have you ever seen an army CRYING????? i have!!! it is the coward israeili army!!!! ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! your whole army depends only on warplanes!!! that kills babies!!! but fighting the men of God on land!!! israeili soldiers Cries!!!! GO HOME!!! now!!! since the one defending their lands are the pround lebanese!!!!
7. Yair youre fullof it
Danny ,   Tel Aviv   (08.09.06)
I am a soldier by choice. The chioce to defend my country and my values.
8. Yair, your heart aches for the enlistees...
(08.09.06)
Was it Gideon who had the invisible armies of G_d who suddenly appeared, scaring the enemy army and amazing Gideon? Everyone who believes and prays to the L_rd, Who is One, is a part of the invisible army of G_d today, praying for Courage &Strength for the Servicemen and women, comradeship, supernatural insight for the Comanders and Prime Minister, Generals and Foreign Minister; defeat of the enemy army's and a huge a** lesson for this generation. (pardon my french) Soon, maybe in this very generation the final threads to The Tapestry will be woven and tied off so that we can all see it's finished product from the front. Right now we view G_d's Tapestry from the back; just a bunch of colors and knots without much pattern or reason. L_rd, Let us see the re-building of the physical Temple, the sacrifices renewed, the Sanhedrin functional. Please forgive us for requiring these signs, but for some of us the heart grows faint. Show our frontlines a sign for good, so that they can be strengthened. Until then, let those in battle do as King David did and take courage within themselves.
9. No such thing as ahero
Mick Roberts ,   Warrington England   (08.09.06)
Dangerous morale sapping left wing claptrap, you should be ashamed of yourself.
10. I am crying
Chaya ,   Bat Yam   (08.09.06)
This article brought me to tears because I understood exactly what Lapid is saying unlike number one. We don't want to be fighting this war but we have NO CHOICE!
11. to number 2
sam ,   jerusalem israel   (08.09.06)
over 3000 israeli soilders were killed in the 73 war, but they still won it,they were not cowards but pushed the syrians from teberias back into sirya took the golan heights and still holds it today, yet you say we are cowards, and it is hezbollah who are dressed as civilians and hiding amongst their women and children, another reat example of arab properganda.
12. oh lapid, you're
shawn ,   israel   (08.09.06)
oh lapid - you are again telling us your words of wisdom? as what did you do in the army boy?
13. to #11 nice historical lesson
adonis ,   lebanon   (08.09.06)
However, this was in 67 and not 73 were you lost sina. This shows how accurate your information. Leave the history that you don't know anything about and see the facts. You are changing the chief of the north army, your general chief aremy had several stomach problems, your aramy still at 100 ms of Lebanese lands, the legend of Mirkava is destroyed (I hope the countries that have contracts are watching now), two ships are destroyed. The only achievement is killing children and women. And to those that say that Hizbullah are hidden behind children and women, you just should know that they are their children and women and they are defending them. don't you see a contradiction. We don't make wrong propaganda it is your media who do it and you know it.
14. That precious few;
rickmd 03 ,   Baltimore, USA   (08.09.06)
That Band of Brothers. The Fraternity of warriors. Fire a few bullets at a boy in anger and he becomes a man. Take him away from home. Away from family. It has been said that soldiers fight for their buddies in the ranks. With an Israeli army there is no substitute for victory. Didn't Patton say: "Get the other, poor, dumb bastard to die for his country." Boys go to war; men return from war, their childhood over.
15. Be a hero
magenah ,   usa   (08.09.06)
You ,who are fighting for Am Yisrael, take courage, don't let fear enter your hearts. Ha Shem sees your need, and the slander that others who hide behind their own children spread. You have a right to feel proud for defending Yisrael, pray for guidence and shalom. Hashem remembers you, and is jeleous over you, you belong to Him.
16. #2,#3who is the real coward???
I Stern ,   usa   (08.09.06)
Israel,if you didn't realize could level the entire country of lebanon in a few days of air strikes.....but it would cause too many deaths to innocent people...so Israel, because they are moral ,sometimes to a fault,loses soldiers by going house to house,looking for Hezballah .terrorist.s that shoot at Israeli men ,women and children.....the article that both of you misread ,was refering to the fact that Israeli soldiers ( by the way if you want English lessons,I could tutor you) just want to defend their homeland and come back to their families for Shabbat ...since life ,not matardom ,is precious to the Jewish People(STOP TEACHING YOUR KIDS TO HATE JEWS AND ISRAEL)
17. #2 & #5
Alison ,   Israel   (08.09.06)
Killing women and children - hizbullah aren't doing that? Did you miss that part? And crying - well if your PM can cry then so can our soldiers.
18. No more Heros
Michael ,   Kfar Saba   (08.09.06)
So lets see if I understand you, Yair. You are basically saying that we shouldn't have any army at all, that we just sit around and paciffally wait until all our enemies from without and from within kill us all. Look at your family, can you live with that thought. Oh, by the way, why dont' you move to Nahariya and then lets talk.
19. to # 16
adonis ,   Lebanon   (08.09.06)
And you think that they did not do so. They blow all the bridges, airports, power generators. They are even bombing fruits and redcross. Yeh, talk about moral army. The only place they did not hit is beyrouth because Olmert is afraid to loose his chair when Hizbullah will destroy Telaviv. You think they have the right to go in shabbat and our men don't have the right to see their children! What can anybody say about your logic. You think you are better than us. But this time we will show you who is better.
20. answer for #12
dudu   (08.09.06)
He wrote for the army magazine "hamachane".
21. to adonis
sam ,   jerusaelm israel   (08.09.06)
i think you need to look at this and if you do i dont think you will be back on this site to quick out of sheer embarresment. http://www.answers.com/topic/yom-kippur-war-1, read and learn, g-d is with us, just accept it, if we are cowards how did we repel the arab armies outnumbering us in all departments dramaticly, see foryourself if you dare.
22. to #4
RAMI ,   amman, jordan   (08.09.06)
Avishai, the palastinians are not hiding behind women and children, THEY are the women and childred.... women and children are not historical landmarks or precious species like the bald eagles fighters hide behind, they are the mothers, wives and kids of palastinian men u always target. They are the people who want their rights. not just bystanders in a drive by shooting...... Ask ureself one honest question for once in your life..... what can the palastinians do to get their rights and land back short of resisting with their teeth and bare bodies, short of begging in exhausting sherades and photo ops you call "negotiations" only to faced with ur stingy politicians who barely give them insulting crumbs instead their minium rights? short of resorting more to UN and international court in the Hague as mediators which u refuse..... what else can the palastinians do? in a constructive way to improve the peace deal when you gov insists to make the deal reflect the balance of power which is to your favor? if u can give an honest answer, maybe we can use it, i am all ears, otherwise it's violance....... be an honest jew for once in your life.
23. to 21
mazen ,   beirut   (08.09.06)
very simple: after u fled the initial attack like babies and after the initial nervous breakdown golda mayer had she called Kissinger crying, if u don't act now, israel will be gone forever, Hence the biggest american military air lift to Israel , we all know ur army had no time to even change the US army marks on the aircrafts or tanks to the David cross mark, they practically landed in the battle ground from the usa. you're just the 51st state of the USA it's as simple as that. Let's see how far your heroism will take you if u lost the US military tech.
24. Yair since when is it a Hero to protect your family.
Mike ,   Israel   (08.09.06)
You wear black cause of your vanaty, you talk as if you are some uper level of humanaty. The realty is that your the type of person that would watch your family being butcherd by animals hopeing that someone would stop them. Your Father must be real proud of you since he spent time in a consatration camp in WW2 Your an emberacing us all. But then again you really dont care as long as your not wearing a uniform. Gever.
25. yair - do you remember.....
hary kary ,   the northern border   (08.09.06)
is that you - yair - the same yair that wrote about the (dis) honorable sgt. dayan! what a hero - and what you did to him. you pulled his name through the mud. have you seen now how many fallen soldiers are from the same background! were there to fight in gush katif and volunteered to be in the most strong combat units!!!! well what do you say now you putz!!!!!!!
26. That's Absolutely True
kurt ,   san diego ca   (08.09.06)
A soldier is always the last person who wants war, but the first person to respond. Shabbat Shalom to all who serve. May G-d Bless YOU.
27. Beautiful and true
Karen R ,   USA   (08.09.06)
28. To Adonis, ahmad, Maysaa, etc. etc
LadySue ,   USA   (08.09.06)
Thank you for reading our excellent newspaper and expressing your opinions. Do you also read and write to the Lebanese, Syrian, and Iranian newspaper? You're sitting in "refuge camps" in Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan since 1948 waiting for handouts from your brothers. That's almost 60 years. How long are you going to be "refuges"? Why don't you take a hint? Your bros the Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians and Egyptians don't want you, because you are useless troublemakers. And now you are taking handouts from Hezbollah and hiding behind Hezbollah, letting them get killed for you. SO PATHETIC.
29. To Nr.16
Ahmad ,   Gaza   (08.09.06)
By the way, that's " Martyrdom" and not " Matardom" ( Check out who needs the english lessons ). And why is it that Jews are scared of death? Is it because they know that they're gonna burn forever in hell when they die?! Jeez, I wonder...
30. to #2 once agan
IStern ,   USA   (08.09.06)
I'm confused...are you Lebanese..or are you from Hezballah????they took over your country...they control the southern part of lebanon ,stifle your growth as well as kidnap and shoot Iranian weapons at civilians..are these your role models...remember Golda Meir once wrote...we will never have peace with the arabs until they love their children more than they hate us....the children are your future...educate them in the sciences to make humanity better...not to kill and mame others
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