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Pope: I am deeply sorry
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Published: 17.09.06, 13:55
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31. -
- ,   -   (09.17.06)
Its funny the pope trying to claim christianity is a religion of peace. maybe he should read just a little bit about crusades !! maybe he'll learn a thing or two and just shut up so he won't embaress himself further more
32. We truly do live in fear of the Muslims.
Roger Mattingly ,   Louisville USA   (09.17.06)
Think about this...if the fanatic Islamic people have the power to even silence the mouth of the Pope through their death threats and vicious attacks on church buildings...and a nun...then, the world really DOES have a problem that needs to be dealt with immediately. The Islamic fanatics have become like wild lions roaming our city streets seeking whom they may devour.
33. #9.. no Geo..
Lynne   (09.17.06)
I am glad to proudly tell you that on the contrary.. the Quran clearly states that anyone who adopts Islam under pressure his faith will not be accepted.. Islam recognizes Jews and Christians as people of the book.. and that all previuos prophets have descended with the same message that Mohammad(PBUH) had come with.. what is happening now is a campaign which aims to make Islam and Muslims seem terrorists and violent.. a verse in the Qora'n also asks Muslims to go for peace when the other side wants peace..
34. Thinking like a Pope -the 1000 year stare
Steve G ,   Kew Gardens,NYC   (09.17.06)
We are involved in daily news cycles and current threats and dangers. The Pope has a different responsibility. He has to form doctrine for the world's only billion member centrally organized religion. His speech continued to outline the contemporary Catholic Church dictum of religion without violence. What this means in very blunt terms is: 1) The Church has learned from the crimes of the 20th Century that they can't back violent fascists like Franco in Spain any more. 2) He is offering religious 'peace' with moderate Muslims, hopefully allowing full rights to Christians, Jews and others in Muslim countries. 3) He is putting the full weight of the Catholic Church against Islamic Jihadists . . . the source of world terrorism. 4) He sees the fight against Islamic extremism John Paul II saw the fight against Communism. .... it is a long battle. In short: Benedict is laying the religious groundwork for a hundred year fight in the Jihadist War Against the West. His job as Pope is to prepare for epic human wars that span eras. At age 79, he is setting up the foundations for the wars facing the next Pope. He's not watching Fox News, he is planning for the world struggles ahead. and even though Benedict is The Most Catholic Pope, he's a lot closer to being on the side of the Jews than the Jihadists. Go Benny!
35. #32: muslims live in disrespect & complexes about themselves
(09.17.06)
otherwise their religious sense wouldn't be so sensitive. they live in constant & gigantic complexes towards the West, and try to catch up in unfair ways through terrorism & violence.
36. ISLAMIC COMMUNITY WORLDWIDE JUST CONFIRMED POPE'S STATEMENTS
(09.17.06)
37. what can't MUSLIMS APOLOGIZE...
Greg   (09.17.06)
for all the anti-semetic stuff they say and the cartoons they draw in their own publications??? oh wait, i know i know, we have to respect them but they don't have to respect us.
38. 32: "TERROR" MEANS "FEAR": IT'S THEIR FEAR
(09.17.06)
THEY ARE TRYING TO LOB IT OFF ON OTHERS THROUGH THREATS AND APPALLING VIOLENCE THOSE WHO ACCEPT IT LOSE. THOSE WHO SAY, GO TO HELL, LIKE BUSH - US, WIN FAITH = COURAGE & ALWAYS RESOUNDINLGY WINS OVER FEAR
39. missunderstood
robert   (09.17.06)
i think we may have all missed the point ,perhaps he used this section in the bible because he was thinking that history is repeting its self (read the rest of the chapter) his misstake was not reading the rest so may-be we would have understood better
40. #9, Geo in Austria
Sheikh yer Bu'Tay ,   Dar al-Harb   (09.17.06)
The Qu'ran records the sayings of Allah, through Muhammad. I would highly recommend you get your own copy and read it for yourself. A very good translation is: "The Koran, With Parallel Arabic Text", published by Penguin Books. An Iraqi from Bagdad, N. J. Dawood first translated it in the late 1950's before the politically correct era. It is a real eye-opener! Here is what muslims don't want you to know: Qur'an 2: 190-191 "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter." Qur'an 9:5 "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush." (This is known as the verse of the Sword) Qur'an 4:76 "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject fight in the cause of evil: so fight ye against the friends of Satan." Qur'an 5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors of each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is of them." Qur'an 9:73 "O Prophet! Strike hard (make war) against the unbelibers and hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed." Qur'an 9:123 "O you who believe! Fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him."
41. the pop
abdul XIII ,   lubnan   (09.17.06)
ba, he say pop he gett 12.000 dularz from moosad. ba iz my pop. he smart_&,.
42. Islam should apologize
(09.17.06)
for proving the Pope's remarks to be true! Who are behaving like apes and monkeys now, eh?
43. #34
paulo ,   london, england   (09.17.06)
good post. the catholic church has commited grevious errors in the past and john paul2 et al have made numerous, proper apologies for events such as the inquisition, the crusades etc. benedict16 has publicly stated that not all popes have been good catholics. it's time moslems and other religions took some time to reflect on their past sins. it's also worth remembering hitler was a new-age pagan/ secular humanist, stalin was an athiest, pol-pot a buddist. few, if any, religions or non-religions have clean hands. we need to look to the future.
44. pope whimpy the first
jason white ,   afula,israel   (09.17.06)
What the hell is he afraid of? Where are all the christians to back him up? Or do the christians only get violent when they kill Jews? Back the man up.They get violent,then burn a bunch of mosques. They keep it up and expel them from eurabia and no.and so. America.
45. #23.. Rula.. thank you..
Lynne   (09.17.06)
46. THE MAJORITY OF CATHOLICS WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE!
Daisy ,   USA   (09.17.06)
47. #35.. Muslims are facing opression..
Lynne   (09.17.06)
and are suffering from abuse whether it was on their lands, culture, or religion.. Muslims are not more sensitive towards their religion that others.. the difference is that their is a war against Islam which does not exist against other religions.. the US is trying to spread out a new version of the Qora'n, Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) was disrespectfully turned into a joking matter ..the US government is now associating Islam with fascism.. and there goes Pope Benedict saying that Mohammad(PBUH) had brought all that was evil with him.. do you expect Muslims to be quiet?? or is it freedom of expression when a Danish cartoonist makes fun of the Muslim Prophet but when Muslims express their anger at the cartoons everyone jumps up to deny their right to be angry!! why was it OK for Christians to express their anger at the movie(DaVinci Code) because they felt it gave a bad impression of Jesus?? why is it OK for Israelis to consider the Holocaust a holy subject which should not be brought up?? why is it ok for Israelis to express their anger towards anyone who does not agree with them and call him anti-Semitic?? this is plain and simple Hypocrisy... for Muslims religion is sacred.. can you please tell me what did Pope Benedict accomplish by quoting those phrases??
48. #40.. you are trying to do..
Lynne   (09.18.06)
what the orientalists have been working on for hundreds of years.. you are trying to pick out bits and pieces of the Qora'n in order to suit your interests.. first of all.. in order to understand the Qora'n you should know Arabic and know it very well.. traslated versions of the Qora'n are quite misleading.. the next thing you should do is read the Qora'n as a whole and not pick out bits and pieces.. because the miracle of the Qora'n is the language even a native Arab should read the Qora'n several times over and over again to try to fully understand it.. because the Qora'n was descended for a specific purpose and on certain occasions to tell Muslims what to do on those occasions .. I am sorry to tell you that the verses you have come up with reveal your ignorence regarding the Qora'n..
49. THE ONLY THING THE POPE SHOULD BE SORRY FOR...
Knave Dave   (09.18.06)
IS FOR APOLOGIZING. Every day since the pope made his comment, his words have proven to be the truest words spoken in this century so far. Muslims all over the world are rising up to kill Christians of any denomination because the leader of one denomination insulted their religion. Is the pope now sorry that he spoke the truth plainly, even as Muslims rise up everywhere to prove his words true? When an imam speaks against Christianity, do Christians rise up everywhere to burn mosques? When an imam speaks hatred against Jews and says they are the source of all evil in the world, do Jews begin a campaign to bomb all the mosques in Gaza? WHAT DID YOU SAY WAS THE RELIGION OF PEACE?
50. #48, Hello, Lynne
Sheikh yer Bu'Tay ,   Dar al-Harb   (09.18.06)
I was answering #9's questions about Qur'anic war verses. These verses do, indeed, exist. Actions speak louder than words. Maybe you should be speaking to your Islamic brothers and sisters who carry out these war verses everyday. Are they wrong to quote these verses, and more, to justify their acts of violent terror and jihad? Please don't answer that only a tiny minority is doing this. Muslim violence on non-Mulsims is global.
51. #47
(09.18.06)
Christians didn't participate in mass violent protests in which they burnt down movie theaters or bookstores to counter the DaVinci Code, did they? If you want to object to something please do it in a civilized manner without the need for blowing things up or killing people. Nobody's mad at them for being angry, just the way they express their anger. If Islam can truely stand on its own then it does not have to worry about misinterpretted comments from the Pope or stupid meaningless cartoons from an obscure Danish newspaper.
52. NOW YOU SEE IT, NOW YOU DON'T !!!
Dr. Rick ,   USA   (09.18.06)
The major reason that the Pope decided to comment in such a way regarding Islam, and I am surprised that no major media has picked up on it yet, is to divert attention away from the Vaticans' own problems involving the Vatican Bank. The Vatican Bank has long ago and most recently been implicated in money laundering schemes with organized crime. This news is not new. What we are witnessing is a very skillfull public relations slight-of -hand by the papists. Just as quickly as the banking inproprieties surfaced by the world media, the story disappeared in favor the Papal comments regarding Islam and the resulting chaos that followed. Now you see it, now you don't !!!
53. 3 The clown nasrallah, and you must like this
freedom ,   canada   (09.18.06)
moron in lebanon. Wasnt he a nice guy that hid behind civilians in the country while it went up in flames. And the bozo in Iran, is he is in a picture frame on the wall as well. .Wake up... its 2006..
54. # 46 Daisy, so what's new?
Michael A Gold ,   El Paso, Tx   (09.18.06)
Catholics to this day still deny the Vatican had anything to do with hitler prior to and during WWII. And the Vatican denies that the Vatican assisted Nazis to escape Europe after WWII.
55. #50.. Sheikh yer Bu'Tay...
Lynne   (09.18.06)
yes, these verses do exist but those verses are followed by verses that tell Muslims do not attack.. go for peace if the other side wanted peace..as an examle I have taken one of the verses you have come up with.. you should read the verses that come before and after which prove my point that the Qora'n asks Muslims to fight in defense wars and not attack for no reason.. what you did is what extremists who know nothing about Islam do.. pick out bits and pieces of the Qora'n to convince other Muslims that what they are doing is right.. 002.190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. 002.191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. 002.192 But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 002.194 The prohibited month for the prohibited month,- and so for all things prohibited,- there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves. 002.195 And spend of your substance in the cause of Allah, and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; but do good; for Allah loveth those who do good.
56. There must be some human truth here that is beyond religion
gerd schulz ,   germany   (09.18.06)
"I feel less alone when I read the books of Ratzinger. I am an atheist, and if an atheist and a pope think the same things, there must be something true. It's that simple! There must be some human truth here that is beyond religion". (Fallaci)
57. Shiekh yer Bu'Tay..
Lynne   (09.18.06)
009.004 (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous. 009.005 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 009.006 If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge. again.. verses 004 and 006 complement what is in 005.. this means that Muslims should fight those who threaten them but if they want peace then Muslims should grant it ..anyway.. Idolaters are not Cristians and Jews.. because Christians and Jews are people of the book and believers in God.. God asks Muslims to drive the Idolaters from the places where they have driven us out from and not drive them out from their own lands.. 005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. 005.069 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve these are two verses from the same chapter which prove that Islam does not urge Muslims against Christians and Jews..but against those who opress them.. chapter 109 gives even atheists the right to worship as they please and states this very clearly..
58. #50 Sheikh yer Bu'Tay..
Lynne   (09.18.06)
I have to answer that only a tiny minority are carrying out this violence because this is the truth.. Muslims in the east live side by side with Christians and they have lived that way with Jews before 1948.. what had caused hatered between Muslims and Jews was the occupation of Palestine and the massacres Israel had comitted under the cover of Judaism.. and until now most Muslims do not regard Israelis and Jews as one.. the attacks carried out on Western countries by so-called Muslims are not a result of religion they are a result of political conflicts.. yes, they are carried out under the cover of Islam.. there are war verses in the Qora'n because Islam is realistic.. Jews have gotten into wars, Christians have gotten into war, but the Qora'n told Muslims what to do on specific occasions when at war and this is not a fault in the Qora'n.. if some of us are evil then this doesn't mean that our religion asks us to be evil.. religion is there to make us better not worse .. in Islam when you greet someone you say "peace to you" .. this is the message of Islam.. peace to you and to all of us..
59. Your remarks on the Pope, Cheney, And Bush
jr ,   everywhere USA   (09.18.06)
Why apologize, the remarks he quoted where from a Emperor debating the use of the sword to force the conversion of the world at that time. Are you or any muslim saying it didn't happen? As to your remarks on President Bush, remember, 911, paybacks a BITCH. No muslim with millions of follows has condemned 911, or an church burnings or murders of Christians. Certainly, some say sorry it happened, everyone saw in the papers the pictures of the joyful muslim people celebrating the 911 attack around the muslim world. Remember what the Japanese Admiral said after the sneak attack bombing of Pearl Harbor," I fear we have awakened a Sleeping Giant." You have.
60. #51..
lynne   (09.18.06)
I agree with you that protests should not get to the extent of burning and bombing.. especially to churches and other religious establishments.. but it was the Pope's irresponsible and ignorant remarks that had lead to this chaos.. Muslims feel that they are being targeted.. I have said this before and I'll say it again.. Muslims are facing wars on every possible frontier.. between those cartoons, Bush's remarks regarding his "war on terror" that it was a crusade war on Islam.. and now the Pope's remarks.. what would anyone expect?? let alone the daily massacres committed on Muslims and the endless Western tries to intervene even in the Qora'n.. Muslims are sick of the unjust and racism of the West towards them.. especially that there is no reason for the Pope to talk about Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) in that manner.. just as there are many ways for Muslims to express their anger there are also many other ways in which the Pope could have spoken about "extremism" without having to hurt Muslims worldwide.. I don't think this has got anything with Islam being able to stand on it's own.. what you're implying is that Muslims should just sit and stare while every other day somebody comes up with a new way of expressing his hatred towards Islam.. should we be puppets in order to civilized?? if someone keeps on every other day repeating on and on that your father was a criminal and that you are a criminal would you be quiet?? please.. try to be fair and realistic.. Muslims are not angels and neither are Jews or Christians or anyone else..
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