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Time: This is how US will attack Iran
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 18.09.06, 08:32
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31. Sure some of those weapons in Iran are from us
rabbibluto ,   Moscow   (09.18.06)
But you want to see the US with relaxed rules of engagement? That would be a really stupid mistake. Their military are wanting to make a big statement to the world (China, Russia, oil rish states) and the last few years their organisation become more corpratized and efficient. Big scale descruction is their speciality.
32. the real zeez alias mohammed o mahmud...
eytan ,   ramat aviv, Israel   (09.18.06)
the real zeez alias mohammed o mahmud... 52. Ahmadinejad is absolutely right Any person with moral sense will accept the proposition of Ahmadinejad concerning the Palestinian refugees problem. One state solution is the only one which can lead to peace. A state where all people can live with equal rights, regardless of their religion, will be a model for all the countries of the Middle-East.. Palestinian refugees are denied the right to return to their own home and lands because they are not Jews. If this is not discrimination, what is then discrimination? The problem is that zionists don't like to treat people equally. They like to oppress others. This is the mean reason of conflict . Honestly speaking, everytime I see Ahmadinejad, I think on Cyrus. zeev , geneva, switzerland (09.18.06)
33. Wow, how paranoid can you get?
John ,   USA   (09.18.06)
I see it now, Israel is so afraid. After the Holocaust, all the wars, etc, Israel is just a country that lives in such fear that she is in desparate straights. Now the game is push the Americans into attacking Iran. Bibi is on his "truth" tour, compairing Islam with Hitler. Your paper pushes how America will attack. The Lebanon war exposed much insecurities, the reputation of the IDF is tarnished. Bush doesn't have the juice anymore to push a war with Iran, even if the media does its best to harden public opinion. Americans are tired of Iraq, and military is spent. I guess you didn't notice how Bush is talking about diplomacy with Iran, nothing more. No hint from the man that he will attack, only vague statements about how "we can't let Iran get the bomb." So I would say that they have plans to attack Iran, just like they have plans to attack North Korea and China, but implementing them is another story.
34. #17: Old illusion; but more unrealistic than Bush's idiocy
Nowhere Man ,   Metropolis, Zion   (09.18.06)
Since the very beginning of the Zionist movement in early 20th century, your illusion failed. Jews & arabs clashed right away over territorial issues. Moreover, I don't know what are your feelings & ties towards Judaism - if you're Jewish at all - but as far as I am concerned, I want Israel to keep its Jewish character. If we completely assimilate into a secular state without Jewish roots, and where muslim or arab population grows 4 times faster than us, I clearly foresee the disappearance of Jewish culture. Judaism is a very old culture - 3'500 years according to historians, almost 6'000 biblically - which merits to be defended, whereas only 15 million people around the world are officially registered in Jewish communities. Ahmadinejad's peace plan - provided it's honest - doesn't take any Jewish interests into account. Arabs muslim or Iranian muslim do not have to fear for their identity, they have their country/-ies with millions of citizens. We do have to defend our identity, our culture, our roots, our history. Which, I think, doesn't mean peace is impossible.
35. #27: An adept of Negurai Karta, obviously...
Nowhere Man ,   Metropolis, Zion   (09.18.06)
We don't oblige you to be a Zionist if you don't want. We nevertheless have to prevent a 2nd holocaust.
36. #20 Mike & #21-#23 Todd
(09.18.06)
Since the 1979 overthrow of the Shah of Iran and the release of the 44 hostages, Iran has, 1. Engaged in covert terrorist training camps, funded, supported, and exported the same against the US, Israel and worldwide. 2. During the Iran-Iraq war Ahmadinejad trained, instructed, and sent hundreds to thousands of children to clear out mine fields wearing one of 500,000 plastic “Keys to Heaven“. 3. US soldiers are now fighting Iranians exported from Iran into Iraq. 4. Iran is attempting to become the mega-oil monopoly of the Middle East and the world through usurpation of Iraqi oil supplies. If US were not in Iraq the vacuum would be filled by Iran, making it the largest oil caliphate in the world. 5. No WMD were not found in Iraq, however, there is no doubt, Iraq's Sadamm was also a supporter, funder and exporter of world terrorism - Kurds aside. 6. In addition to item 4, Iran has been lobbying to convert world oil purchases from the US Dollar to the Euro, which amounts to major economic attack on US. 7. The EU stands to gain hugely from such shift, which therefore, puts EU and US at conflict. 8. As of today, Iran formalized an anti-US alliance with oil country Venezuela. Hereto, indicating further economic attack against the US. 9. Iran, emboldened by terrorist successes and backing of Russia, China, and EU countries, not only flagrantly continues to develop nukes, but has made no secret of its will and desire to use nukes on Israel and US. 10. Items 3, 4, 6 and 7, indicate Iran’s attempt to hold hostage and economically injure US. 11. Iran instigated, funded and coordinated the recent Hamas-Hezbolla proxy war with Syrian complicity against Israel. This resulted in unprovoked aggression against Israel, unjust kidnappings, billions of dollars in devastation to Lebanese infrastructure, and hundreds of innocent civilian lives lost thorough Hamas-Hezbolla shielding tactics and rockets on Israeli citizens. US and Israel are being “conveniently” blamed worldwide for “Iranian” aggressions and losses. 12. Salman Rushdie is still in hiding from the fatwa the Iranian mullahs placed on him. In terms of the “Big Picture” US is already at war with “proxy Iran“. Iran like Hamas-Hezbolla, is also a “proxy” in its attacks on the US via terrorism, oil monopoly attempts, economics, Iraq, UN, biased media and attacks on Israel. So, the term “clash of civilizations” is absolutely correct. There is a huge “power clash” occurring right now for world dominance which will be determined by US success’ in Iraq, Israel, against terrorism and Iran. Research the issues yourself. Perhaps it will help "get your reasoning together" :) -------------- Todd, Get a clue. :P
37. TO ALL THE POEPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE DIMPLOMATIC WHIMPS
chaim ,   raanana   (09.18.06)
Listen, to all the poeple that dont like zeev and dont like any of us that are from the USA. Look, what would you all rather want to happen? Iran getting nucleur warhaeds and blowing up the planet, or blowing up iran and everything goes back to normal. The fact is that there will be no getting around these two choices and that the bottem line is that, if we and the US do not get rid of Iran by the beginig of next yaer THE WHOLE WORLD WILL PAY THE PRICE FOR IT ( THIS I GARENTEE YOU ALL ) AND ABSOLUTLY NOW WHERE ON THE EARTH WILL IT BE SAFE FOR ANYBODY EXEPT FOR IN ISRAEL ( THATS RIGHT BECUASE MR. AMI YOU KNOW WHO WONT HIT ISRAEL BECUASE WE HAVE THE DOME OF THE ROCK and furtionatly for us and unfortionatly for the world he is not going to destroy the dome of the rock, cuase like I said before, unfortianatly HES NOT THAT STUPID. Anyway epinions are epinions, but I think that we should all just unite AS ONE and that we should just put our Kofee anan like diplomatic critecisem out the window ( if you all know wht I maen by that ) Anyway THINK ABOUT IT.
38. Darius: That's all good and great, but...
America ,   Land of the Free   (09.18.06)
Iran has already implemented laws requiring Jews to wear a yellow star. Iran has further threatened Israel and US with "Imagine a world without..." So Iran's intents are clear. We Israel/US obviously disagree. There is a saying in America, "We will not be moved..." Meaning, that whatever "threat, action, violence, etc., we encounter" "We will not be moved." One thing you forget in your excellent tactical disertation on Iran, America, not Iran, is the only superpower in the world, Iran has, 1. Engaged in covert terrorist training camps, funded, supported, and exported the same against the US, Israel and worldwide. 2. During the Iran-Iraq war Ahmadinejad trained, instructed, and sent hundreds to thousands of children to clear out mine fields wearing one of 500,000 plastic “Keys to Heaven“. 3. US soldiers are now fighting Iranians exported from Iran into Iraq. 4. Iran is attempting to become the mega-oil monopoly of the Middle East and the world through usurpation of Iraqi oil supplies. If US were not in Iraq the vacuum would be filled by Iran and making it the largest oil caliphate in the world. 5. No WMD were not found in Iraq, however, there is no doubt, Iraq's Sadamm was also a supporter, funder and exporter of world terrorism. 6. In addition to item 4, Iran has been lobbying to convert world oil purchases from the US Dollar to the Euro, which amounts to major economic attack on US. 7. The EU stands to gain hugely from such shift, which therefore, puts EU and US at conflict. 8. As of today, Iran formalized an anti-US alliance with oil country Venezuela. Hereto, indicating further attempts at economic attack against the US. 9. Iran, emboldened by terrorist successes and backing of Russia, China, and EU countries, not only flagrantly and with aggression continues to develop nukes, but has made no secret of its will and desire to use nukes on Israel and US. 10. Items 3, 4, 6 and 7, indicate Iran’s attempt to hold hostage and economically injure US. 11. Iran instigated, funded and coordinated the recent Hamas-Hezbolla proxy war with Syrian complicity against Israel. This resulted in unprovoked aggression against Israel, unjust kidnappings, billions of dollars in devastation to Lebanese infrastructure, and hundreds of innocent civilian lives lost thorough Hamas-Hezbolla shielding tactics and rockets on Israeli citizens. US and Israel are being “conveniently” blamed worldwide for “Iranian” aggressions and losses. 12. Salman Rushdie is still in hiding from the fatwa the Iranian mullahs placed on him. In terms of the “Big Picture” US is already at war with “proxy Iran“. Iran like Hamas-Hezbolla, is a “proxy” in its attacks on the US via terrorism, oil monopoly attempts, economics, Iraq, UN, biased media, and attacks on Israel. So, the term “clash of civilizations” is absolutely correct. There is a huge “clash" occurring right now for world dominance which will be determined by US success’ in Iraq, Israel, against terrorism and Iran. So don't play the "reasoner" for Iran, velvet gloving on one hand, and threatening on the other. We know your number, and ------------------ PS: US is the only country in the world who fights not only for our freedom, but the freedom of others. US is the only country in the world who receives en mass refugees and peoples fleeing persecution. So as far as we are concerned "little dictators" like Iran flaying arms about should rightly be bombed. Come what may, hell or high water, "We will not be moved." Besides, it is written regarding Israel, "I will bless those who bless you, I will curse those who curse you." Looks like that's you Iran.
39. 16, Persia can go to hell.. we're coming...
(09.18.06)
Take up your "woe on Iran" issue with your President..
40. The Persian Empire
Jerry ,   USA   (09.18.06)
It is Persia that has sealed its fate by allowing itself to fall victim to its own hubris. There seems to the average American and European that there is little difference between Persia and Pre-War Germany. Both countries were/are triumphalist and deprived their people of wealth and finally existence by diverting their money to arms production and promising world dominance. They chose guns instead of butter. Why should any country not take threats of annihilation seriously. Persia made threats against Israel and followed through by trying to open a front against them in Lebanon. Their use of power to gain their political goals runs the risk of opposition - which they shall surely have. Peace is a state you give to other way before you can acquire it for yourself. It is the principle of reciprocity that Persia Mullahs lack. They insist on a zero sum game at their own peril.
41. Darius The Great, ok after reading your post
Mike ,   Israel   (09.18.06)
I'am we are very scared that your able to dream the way you do. Scared for you that is. What your saying is that the west should do nothing but just give in to Islamic ways, the west should give up its way of thinking and take up your way of life. Friend i have news for you. If your "great Persian Empire" continues in its path it is leading itself and its people to the gates of hell and fire. But after thinking about that i think that it would be a good thing for them to enter and stay. Keep dreaming friend and see you in hell.
42. Re #23
Irgun Fighter   (09.18.06)
Sounds like we got ourselves a Sore Loserman here.
43. to #16, dreams of Darius
Zima ,   Phila PA USA   (09.18.06)
Before Iran builds all kind of Anti-Air systems it should produse its own gasoline, feed the poor, give jobs to the millions of youth that dom't have bright future in their own country. Be realistic, stop dreaming of the Persia empire.
44. Persians are just one of minorities in Iran!
Aydin ,   Tabriz Iran   (09.18.06)
Persians who are a racist nation, govern Iran unfairly exactly such as sunnis in Iraq during saddam hussein regime. The chauvinistic beliefs near them is very strong. They always dream about their historic Persia Empire which just stood out for one hundred years and was routed easily by great Alexander’s attack. They have constructed fictions about their ancient empire and always sigh for losing that fictive pride! Most of them have a great proud of being a familiar nation to Germans and love Hitler in their aside! I’m one of the Iranian Azeris (the greatest minority with more than 34% of the country’s population in comparison with Persians who are about 32% as reported in the valuable site http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=IR) our voice is not heard in the world such as other minorities in Iran, kurds, arabs, balouchs, turkmans. We even have not the right to learn our mother language in our home country! I warn the free world to prevent Persians from reaching the nuclear weapons not only because of today’s religious terrorist government but also because of the strong racism and chauvinistic beliefs near Persians which may lead them to create another Hitler and constrain the world or the region a horrible third world war.
45. #28 - Great! Gabrielle - as usual. MLK was a total Christian
Truth ,   USA   (09.18.06)
46. when your country is attacked
ME ,   USA   (09.18.06)
Then you can give your opinion
47. Yes, we are coming...
Paul ,   Springfield, IL   (09.18.06)
We are coming because you are misled by your leaders into believing terrorism is ok. Your intellect is so dull you go nuts over cartoon pictures of your prophet, nuts over a Pope's recital of an ancient text (then shoot a Nun un the back), nuts over everything. Your leaders are insane and not capable of holding weapons of mass destruction and being trusted not to use them. Yes we are coming because you invited us by your ignorance and cowardly acts upon the world. When we come the World will be with us and your world will never be the same. Tick tock tick tock......
48. US / IRAN alliance
MENSIAN ,   USA   (09.18.06)
Why not give them the bomb and force Israel to shut up and behave? Why not threaten israel with bombing and invasion because they have WMD's? Israel is a cancer in the middle east.
49. Darius' Arian Persia: Drugs, Aids, Unemployment, Poverty...
Nowhere Man ,   Metropolis, Zion   (09.18.06)
...thousands of drug addicted & beaten up prositutes living in undercover in total illegality, women with archaic rights, archaic society, depressed youth, hemorragy of Iran's best brains, a multi-million diaspora against current regime, etc., etc., etc.
50. yo, Darius!
Dr. NO ,   jerusalem   (09.18.06)
Which one are you? The Ist or the IIIrd? Both got their asses badly kicked - remember the battle of Marathonas? Alexander the Great sound any bells? Choose another hero, or go catch up on ancient history. By the way, even back then Persian distroyed and desecrated Greek temples. Nothing new about Arabs, Persians, Muslims, call them what you will...
51. Eliminating existential threat
Brod ,   USA   (09.18.06)
The Free World has no choice but to eliminate the existential threat it is facing from Islamist-Jihadist Iran. If the latter does not get it, then they must be worst than an idiot. Then again, if educated Islamist-Jihadist kamikazes could commit mass murder against humanity on 9/11 so that they could get their 70 virgins in paradise, they too were worst than idiots as do all Islamist-Jihadists.
52. Zeev - well said
Rustum ,   London, UK   (09.18.06)
Your posts are those of a man of peace - not like those of the blithering war-mongering death-loving morons who jump up and down with glee at the thought of Israeli nuclear weapons killings millions of Moslems. You are absolutely right when you say the best way forward is to speak - rather than to bomb. Look where bombing has got Israel - a pariah state which has brainwashed its citizens into thinking that only dead "arbushim" are good arbushim. Disgusting racism and the exact mirror image of European fascism of the 1930s. As for the Geneva woman, her every posting is filled with spite, hate and contempt for anyone who deviates one iota from her rancid and racist opinions. I remember her crowing happily "we don't allow Moslems to stay in Switzerland, we kick them out". Her cruddy little paranoid website shows that she spends her life trawling the gutters of the internet to justify her own tiny-minded and racist conclusions. Ignore, ignore and ignore. One must wonder why that Geneva woman doesn't go and live in her racist heaven - but she has never answered the question. I suspect that as an ardent Kahanist and advocate of transfer and military solutions, she would be arrested for incitement to hatred. Keep up the good work Zeev. What many people cannot accept is that only by reading the words of people with differing opinions will there be a way forward out of the present murky impasse. yet again, I will state that I am completely appalled at the abject and overt racism of many of the people who write here advocating the nuclear solution. They have learnt nothing from history, and they have learnt nothing from Jewish history.
53. #25 & 28 and good manners
Rustum ,   London, UK   (09.18.06)
Your style of debating leaves much to be desired. Do you want a debate or do you want to spend your days reading a chorus of harpies screaming their approval of your every word? There are depths of ignorance and then again, then are such depths of ignorance and hatred that only you can plummet. And why is it dear madame that you don't live in Israel?
54. '7 and your prayers
Rustum ,   London, UK   (09.18.06)
I simply cannot believe that you have the temerity to post in public that you pray day and night for Iran to be bombed with nuclear weapons. There really should be laws against people like you - but we need to ask you how happy would you be if you were to read of the deaths of millions of Iranians and the wanton and barbaric destruction of a country with its great culture and monument. Talk about a tiny introverted ghetto mentality!
55. How US will attack Iran
Kweku Nenya ,   Alexandria Va USA   (09.18.06)
I am very surprised that when any one criticise Israel for its policy towards the palestinians, he is blamed as anti semitic. When it comes to Iran all kinds of scenarios are being depicted and not only criticisms but savage suggestions as to how the US will/should attack that country? Are we really God's childdren who are told to pray and work towards peace instead of incitements towards war? Has any person in his right mind ever thought how the iranians will respond once they have been attacked? Mind you this country has existed for thousands of years and the inherent ability that enabled them to survive thus far will carry them through. God does not like ugly and we must not ugly.To throw this in, Jews are not the only semitic race in the world. Arabs are also semites. Any unfair criticisms towards arabs are also deemed anti semitc. That is just by the way.
56. Persia was great when it wasn't muslim
Xin Hau ,   Sac CA   (09.18.06)
"Iran is a muslim country" Apparently thats the problem. Persia was a great country prior to becoming a muslim country. Darius the Great would have never tolerated these mad-mullahs. Fundamentalist Islam, Sunni or Shia is incompatible with building an econnomically strong country that can provide for it's people and offer it's children hope for the future. Without it's oil, Iran would be just one big poor bazaar, and nobody would pay any attention to the rants of the mad mullahs. I'm also sick and tired of hearing muslims complaing about being "humiliated." Look at your history. You spread your religion by slaughter, murder, imperialism and coersion. That what Muhammad instructed, right. If they won't convert kill them? We see that today with Fox Journalists kidnaped in Gaza, and as you murder each other, en mass on a regular basis, sunni against shia, blowing each others up. Slaughtering each other women and children. Calling those that don't agree with your pathetic, childish notions, "infidels" and killing their women, children and men, in cowardly bombing attacks against airplanes, buildings, buses, restaurants, hotels, churches and temples. And you want respect? Your nothing more than brain washed cultists, with a blood lust. And the courage you say you have to commit this mass murder, comes from nothing more than the two gonads between your legs. Your like a bunch of repressed adolecents filled with lust and brainwashed to think you will get 72 virgins in heaven for murder. Pathetic! You have a sickness, and when the world finally wakes up it's going to treat you like the rabid annimals that you are. Insane, dangerous and unfit to be left loose in society. oh lets not forget the hundreds of thousands of their own children the mad-mullahs sent to their deaths in the mine-fields of the Iran Iraq War. Funny how the brave mullahs, the Osamas, the leader of Hamas and Hezbollah never volunteer themselves or their family members for murder/suicide missions. Pathetic!
57. #7 - If that's true then 70% are brain-dead retards
Boiler ,   Indianapolis USA   (09.18.06)
58. What made Persia great was Zarathustra, not Islam !
Nowhere Man ,   Metropolis, Zion   (09.18.06)
And by the way, also influenced Judaism a lot in an enriching way during the Hebrew´s exile in Babylone. I´m praying night & day for a regime change, not for Teheran to be bombed. The Shah may have been a tyran; what we have now is 1´000 worse. All diaspora Persians I know are great, cultivated, and intelligent people. Would Iran be an enlighted nation way ahead of other civilzations (as it once was 3´000 years ago), the world community would more easily accept her as a nuclear power.
59. Persians are just one of minorities in Iran!
Aydin ,   Tabriz, Iran   (09.18.06)
Persians who are a racist nation, govern Iran unfairly exactly such as sunnis in Iraq during saddam hussein regime. The chauvinistic beliefs near them is very strong. They always dream about their historic Persia Empire which just stood out for one hundred years and was routed easily by great Alexander’s attack. They have constructed fictions about their ancient empire and always sigh for losing that fictive pride! Most of them have a great proud of being a familiar nation to Germans and love Hitler in their aside! I’m one of the Iranian Azeris (the greatest minority with more than 34% of the country’s population in comparison with Persians who are about 32% as reported in the valuable site http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=IR) our voice is not heard in the world such as other minorities in Iran, kurds, arabs, balouchs, turkmans. We even have not the right to learn our mother language in our home country! I warn the free world to prevent Persians from reaching the nuclear weapons not only because of today’s religious terrorist government but also because of the strong racism and chauvinistic beliefs near Persians which may lead them to create another Hitler and constrain the world or the region a horrible third world war.
60. Please creat my talkback
aydin ,   Tabriz Iran   (09.18.06)
Thanks for publishing my oppinion. But the link of the site in my talkback is wrong. please correct it by the following one: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=IR Thanks
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