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Pope: Anti-Islam quotes not my own views
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Published: 20.09.06, 13:06
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1. Viva BenedictusXVI
Alan ,   SA   (09.20.06)
2. thanks pope - you just proved terrorism pays, and they win
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (09.20.06)
you should be backing down in apology. now the islamo-fascists feel they can shout down the perceived head of christianity. why don't you just go lay a wreath at mohammed's grave and say something antisemitic to make them happy?
3. Funny religon
A S D ,   London   (09.20.06)
Dear pope what you quoat is right. If this religon is so good let them answer the question with dialoge not with threats.
4. The pope is a dope!
Mark ,   USA   (09.20.06)
5. Why I think the pope should appologize?
atmawi ,   Historic Palestine   (09.20.06)
As a muslim, who you may consider as a moderate, I think the pope should not spoke out about Islam the way he did. The time is wrong, the statement is wrong-he said it does not meet with his beliefs on Islam- So why would some one in the pope position talk that bad about Islam. I feel humilated, not because it is the truth as some says, but because it is not the truth. If this kind of remarks came from some one else, then no problem, but the pope??? Too many people include myself used to like the pope, he shall and I think to an extent he represents forgivness, diversity, not offensive. He has to apologize because he offended 1400 million muslims around the world. Tell you what, even if it is the truth about Mohammad and Islam, Still from his position, he should not say what he said. Some one in christian world may say it is teh write message, coming out from the write man, but in the wrong time, wrong position. Peace salam Shaloom
6. Pope adressing Jews, Why no answer ?
(09.20.06)
7. To the #4 from Amman
Adam ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.20.06)
The Pope didn't say anything of the sort he read aloud a 600 year old document about interfaith dialogue. The Muslims decided to prove the document wrong by rioting burning and displayinig violence.
8. Pope adressing Jews, Why no answer ?
observer   (09.20.06)
‘I wanted to explain that religion and violence do not go together but religion and reason do,’ Then, why "reliogious" Jews' offense in Lebanon has gone so far ?
9. #5 i agree with you
the rest of us ,   pennsylvania usa   (09.20.06)
the pope is the leader of the world's catholic church. he, above all, should be sensitive to the world's various religion's delicate sensibilities. while we are certainly living in historic and strange times, he certainly could have proffered his position on religion and reason by encouraging the misguided to follow the philosophy of reason instead of negatively painting an entire religion with a broad stroke. he was insensitive to an entire religion. that is wrong. we dont expect that from a pope. we expect better.
10. POOP LIES:::: REASON
THE TRUTH THROUGH ,   SIMPLE LOGIC   (09.20.06)
IF HE ISN'T AN ANTISEMITIC, HE WOULD STOP THE DOOR TO DOOR PROSELYTIZING THE MISSIONARIES THE DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING JEW4JEUS MESSIANIC 'JEWS? THE CHURCHES THAT HAVE MENORAHS AND STARS ON THEM PREACHING THAT JEUS IS THE IMPROVED JUDAISM AND SO ON & SO ON. ONLY PROVES THAT THE CHURCHES FROM DAY ONE HAS LIED. LIES ABOUT THE TRANSLATIONS OF HEBREW SCRIPTURE AND THE PROPHETS WRITINGS... ALL HEBREW AND THE XTIANS TELL THE JEWS WHAT THEY MEAN????thats a joke in itself. CONCLUSION: HOW CAN YOU FOLLOW A DOCTRINE/RELIGION BASED ON LIES THAT PRACTICE LIES DAILY. I WEAR ONLY ORIGINAL DESIGNER CLOTHS NOT COPIES. TORAH IS THE ORIGINAL.... WHY BUY A CHEAP IMITATION...
11. #5 atmawi - Look at Islam's History, The Truth was Spoken
Nannette ,   London, UK   (09.20.06)
Islam has a violent history, in which most peoples were forced to convert, or die by the sword. The words of the 14th century Emperor were true, as he spoke of the Muslim invasion of Europe. http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/09/take-back-culture.html No Muslim has read the Pope's speech in full, and have only cherry picked inflammatory pieces. It's time, Muslims would listen, read, and learn what was really said - in context. Nothing the Pope has ever said comes even close to matching the vitriol, extremism and hatred that pour out of the mouths of radical imams and fanatical clerics every day, all across Europe and the Muslim world, almost none of which ever provokes any Western response at all. The West should quit saying sorry and unite, occasionally, in its own defense. The fanatics attacking the Pope already limit the right to free speech among their own followers. I don't see why we should allow them to limit our right to free speech, too.
12. 130 Christian INNOCENTS SAVAGELY MURDERED Over CARTOONS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.20.06)
The Christians had never heard about the cartoons. There is no mercy for innocents. WorldNetDaily.com 130 Christians murdered over cartoons Muslim rioters rampage through Nigerian villages February 24, 2006 Muslim rioters, incensed over the cartoons of Muhammad published in Denmark, were responsible for killing at least 130 Christians on the streets of Maiduguri and Onitsha in Nigeria, according to reports filtering out of the country from Voice of the Martyrs. At least 51 Christians are confirmed dead in the Maiduguri attacks that took place Saturday. In the rampage, more than 150 homes and 32 churches were burned, and 85 shops were destroyed. Authorities were finally able to control the volatile scene after arresting 114 and having militia enforce a curfew. The mayhem began when Muslims staged their demonstration against degrading caricatures of Muhammad that were originally published in September 2005 by the Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten. Even though the cartoons were by no means a Christian attack on Islam, Muslims in Nigeria and throughout the world have turned their rage toward Christians – many of whom have never even heard of the controversial sketches, reports Voice of the Martyrs. Muslims were reported running through the streets of Maiduguri threatening people with death and violence if they did not speak their local dialect. Many of the dozens of victims were publicly tortured to death in the city streets. Amidst the violence, six children were burned to ashes in front of their father, Joseph Tukwa, who was unable to rescue them. Six Christian leaders, including the Rev. Joshua Adamu, were injured and are now in hiding. Church of Christ in Nigeria, Living Faith Church, Church of the Brethren in Nigeria, St. Augustine's Catholic Church and St. Mary's Catholic Church were some of the churches set ablaze by rioters, who killed two Catholic priests. St. Rita's Catholic Church was also torched. The Rev. Fr. Matthew Gajere was murdered and then burned after he helped several altar boys escape to safety. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48973
13. Pope is either insincere or a hypocrite...which one is it?
John Smith ,   San Francisco, CA   (09.20.06)
If the pope's intention was not to be critical of Islam and to tarnish its image by pointing out how "Mohammad spread his religion by the sword" and stating that religion and violence don't go well together, then he should've been fair in making such a point by also mentioning that the crusaders spread christianity by the sword and they were evil too. So, either he conveniently forgot to mention that the Crusaders slaughtered incredibly high numbers of non-christians or he's simply being a hypocrite. None of which I expected from a man of such a high caliber. How unfortunate!
14. #8, Observer
John Smith ,   San Francisco, CA   (09.20.06)
You make and EXCELLENT Point! Thank you.
15. TO #5
(09.20.06)
Why are Imams,clerics and other Muslim religious leaders (not to mention political leaders)not aplogizing to the Jews for continuously putting down the Jews and their religion? Why people have to walk on eggshells when it comes to Islam but other religions such as Judaism, and Chrisianity are being insulted daily(Pigs and monkeys) filthy cartoons depicting Jewish religious symbols,synagogues and churches, Christian YMCA burned(before the Pope's comment). The Muslims do not spare anyone else's feelings but watch out!! no one can comment on their religion, it get's blown out of proportion and people get killed over it. THIS MUST STOP!!! LAST TIME I CHECKED, IT WAS STILL A FREE WORLD!!!
16. TO NUMBER 5
(09.20.06)
You mean you are writing from historic Israel. Who are you trying to kid here. Please, start licking your wounds when it comes to the Pope's comments. He was quoting another person who lived 600 years ago but you are proving him right. Your people allow themselves to step upon everyone else's religion and beliefs, yet you are being hyper-sensitive when it comes to your own. If you want to be respected, respect everyone else. What was true 600 years ago proves still to be right today. The violent reactions to some words proves this. The Jewish/Israeli people are being insulted and offended daily by your religious leaders yet no one in Israel is burning flags,mosques and everything else. No protests on the streets calling for revenge, Because those are civilized people in a democratic state. There is your difference.
17. #11, you missed the point
atmawi ,   Historic Palestine   (09.20.06)
I can voice out, you can freely say whatever you want to say, but the pope should not, he is not a normal man any more, he is the pope. What you see the truth, millions of people all over the world think it is not. It is so relative, you can not judge a religion like this. Plus you can not compre apples to oranges, you can not compare what one clerek say in somalia, and what the Pope has to say about the same issue. The clerek represent no one, but the Pope does. We have hundred of thousands of clerecks but only one Pope. Got it. Salam
18. Using THREATS & VIOLENCE to make Pope SUBMIT to Islam
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.20.06)
Will this appeasement continue? Appeasement and submission to Islam will rapidly bring about the absolute destruction of our civilization and the complete loss of our freedom and human rights.
19. the solution
ISAC ,   Florida   (09.20.06)
is, that Jews and Christians have to unite strongly against radical Islam. And if finally the moderate Muslims decide to join us against the radical islamic threat they should also be welcome. The point is, that radical Islam is a REAL threat to the êntire world. No apologies any more.
20. ISLAMISTS MAKE WAR on G-D & WAR on those WHO OBEY G-D
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.20.06)
Do Islamists not fear Master of the Universe, the G-D of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who gave the Promised Land to Jews? Exodus 9:1 Thus says the L-RD, the G-d of the Hebrews, "Let My people go, that they may serve Me" Exodus 5:2 But Pharaoh said, "Who is the L-RD that I should obey His voice" On March 27, 2002, at the Park Hotel in Netanya, terrorists targeted for murder Jews honoring and thanking G-D for His great mercy: Exodus 12:14 “you shall celebrate it as a feast to the L-RD” Exodus 12:42 “It is a night to be observed for the L-RD for having brought them out from the land of Egypt; this night is for the L-RD, to be observed by all the sons of Israel throughout their generations.” The Muslim human bomb killer murdered 30 Israelis as the Jews obeyed G-D, taking part in the Passover meal. 140 Jewish innocents were injured. The bomb was filled with nails and other metal pieces to maximize the suffering of survivors. On August 19, 2003, terrorists targeted for murder Jews who worship G-D. The Muslim human bomb killer blew himself up on the bus as Jews returned from prayer at the Western wall. The Temple Mount, the holiest place on earth, is Judaism's holiest site. The gruesome attack-the bomb packed with metal pieces, killed 22 Jews and injured 134, many seriously. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Hebrew Bible, not once in the Koran. If Jesus Christ had lived in our day, from the time Jesus was in his mother's womb, he would be targeted for murder by IslamoFascist religious supremacists for being a Jew living in his homeland of Israel. The Palestinian Authority hailed as heroes the terrorists who brutally murdered defenseless 8 months pregnant Jewish Gaza mother, Tali Hatuel, and four little daughters in Gush Katif in May 2004. In defiance of Israel's G-D, and massively breaking G-D's law given to Moses: "YOU SHALL NOT MURDER" the Palestinian Authority teach through their mosques, media, summer camps, and public education system, that murdering Jews is a religious obligation. Human bomb killers of Jewish innocents are revered and considered heroes by PA society. Effigies of burning buses are features of PA school pageants and summer camps. Streets and soccer teams are named after suicide bombers. Broadcast from Gaza mosque, Oct 13 2000, Dr. Ahmad Abu Halabiya, on Palestinian Authority TV (transcribed by Memri): "Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them..."
21. Pope means all his 'conflicting' statements: here's why
Steve G ,   Kew Gardens,NYC   (09.20.06)
As a man of god himself, the Pope recognizes that most of the world's Muslims follow a religion that teaches good things and advocates good behavior in everyday life. Therefore he can sincerely say he has 'deep resepect' for Islam. At the same time, he recognizes that extreme, intolerant, violent and even terroristic elements within Islam are on the rise. The pope is preparing the foundation within his religion to respond to extremist attacks on the world's 1 billion Catholics. Keep in mind that the next Pope and the ones afterwards will have to deal with a rising violence from within Islam. Benedict is drawing a line against religiously motivated violence. He hasn't retreated from that at all. . . . and his Church does not have a 24 hour news cycle.
22. #16
John Smith ,   San Francisco, CA   (09.20.06)
You said: "The Jewish/Israeli people are being insulted and offended daily by your religious leaders yet no one in Israel is burning flags,mosques and everything else". You are right, they don't burn flags and mosques, they just walk into the mosques while innocent peace-loving people are kneeling before God and shoot them in the back. Did you already forget the Massacre that Baruch Goldstein committed? I won't go into the constant assault on Palestinian citizens at check points and destroying their homes, crops and building a racist wall to keep villagers from reaching their fields to earn a living and also to deprive children from reaching their schools... What Planet do you live on, sir????
23. good yontif pontif!!
Solly   (09.20.06)
well he's not my Rabbi and I don't pay his salary so in the marketplace of ideas I can only chuckle at the insensitivity and stupidity of his comments... and the reaction of our Isllamic brethren prove not their inherent violent nature but their inability to laugh nonsense off... now if I was a Catholic I'd be pissed as hell!!!!
24. Pope Benedict XVI typical papal foolishness
David ,   USA   (09.20.06)
"This is what I believe! ..unless, of course, you do not like it" His latest rantings for his initial diatribe is explained that we all worship the same God - baloney! Allah and his prophet Mohammed cannot be compared to the God of Heaven who revealed Himself through Jesus Christ. Show me somebody else, completely perfect, who can rise from the dead. Can't happen
25. #22
D ,   Italy   (09.20.06)
Dear Mr. Smith, Do you know of any other episodes in which Jews walked into a mosque and shot people in the back? You cannot compare one-time event to daily terrorist attacks against the jews, not to mention against the rest of the world. Unless, you're biased in your news' reading. Just a few weeks ago an innocent young Italian man, non-jewish, was stubbed while walking in Jerusalem. He was there to help the Palestinians/Arabs, those very people that killed him. So, what's your point exactly Mr John Smith? IS that your real name btw?
26. Wakie Wakie
Bubba's Pravda ,   Atlanta, GA USA   (09.20.06)
A book by Bruce Bawer, "While Europe Slept", is a more in-depth look at the mindset that we are contending with. Instead of the west responding with one voice to the Islamofascists, we are neutered by the Kumbaya chorus out of the EU and the UN. How do these institutions affect US citizens. The Liberal Elite thirst for approval from the members of these two organizations. I am utterly amazed at the lack of understanding the Lefties have of the Islamists. They seem to be willfully blind. Wakie, Wakie! The Islamofascists are using you and your moral equivalence doctrine to further entrench themselves in western culture. If you keep expecting the Islamists to stop their hate and voice their love and admiration for liberal democracy and personal liberty, you are deceiving yourselves. OPEN YOUR EYES! This is not hysteria. This is reality. They see us as the demons. Not just conservatives. EVERY non-islamist is a demon. It is not a religion of peace. It never, EVER, has been. Read your history. Read about the Jews and Christians and their treatment in these societies both today and over the centuries. Look up the terms: dhimmi, jizyah, and taqiyya. Learn. The average Muslim on the streets of Europe believes that the Quran is supreme over the laws of Europe. Research what honor killings are. Research the practice of vaginal mutilation. These people are absolutely devout (insane). To claim moral equivalence between Christians and Muslims is absurd. Do you see Christians en masse screaming for blood? Christians demanding death? The truthful answer is no. Madonna is going to desecrate the cruxifiction of Christ in an upcoming event. Christians around the world will be disgusted. But, Christians around the world will not declare a Fatwah on Madonna. It won't happen. Ever! Bubba's Pravda bubbaspravda.blogspot.com
27. #10, Simple Logic
Chris ,   Warsaw, Poland   (09.20.06)
I sincerely doubt if The Catholic Church supports in any way the Jews for Jesus movement. Also, I never saw a Catholic Church building with a menorah or Star of David on it. You certainly confused it with some another Christian denomination. Have a nice day.
28. atmawi
???   (09.20.06)
The Pope doesn't owe you or any muslim an apology. Your reaction to his speech proved only his point too well. Muslims need to start taking a good long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why the world mistrusts you as a collective group. You have proven to be an overly defensive religion, with alot of violence and hatred for those who dare to question you. Muslims question and make derogatory statements about Christians and Jews all of the time and you don't see us reacting in a violent manner. What you muslims don't realize is that most people are fed up with you and you had better wise up to the fact that we will only be pushed so far before we retaliate!!!!
29. John Smith
???   (09.20.06)
"If the pope's intention was not to be critical of Islam and to tarnish its image.." The pope tarnished the image of islam? Where have you been John? The Muslims are doing a fine job of that themselves. Wake up from liberal San Francisco and join the real world. "he shouldn've been fair in making such a point by also mentioning that the crusaders spread christianity by the sword and they were evil too." Name me one Christian who has been forced to become a Christian by the sword today...just one John. Now name me a muslim who was forced to become a muslim by the sword today. I can name a few. "None of which I expected from a man of such a high caliber." Who are you kidding? None of you liberals in San Francisco hold the Pope to a high caliber. You bash the Catholic faith every chance you get...which is your right. Funny how none of you liberals have the balls to do the same by criticizing the islamic faith.
30. atmawi
???   (09.20.06)
"you can freely say whatever you want to say, but the pope should not" Bull! Your religious leaders constantly berate other religions and none of you ever stand up and say that is wrong. "you can freely say whatever you want to say" Bull again! Look what happened when ordinary citizens printed up cartoons about Mohammad. Ordinary citizens...not the pope...and you muslims reacted in the same manner.
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