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Christians: We'll fight for Israel
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 27.09.06, 21:43
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31. Jill no. 27 we do appriciate it and Ilove you right back
(09.28.06)
but you should not look up at us. According to the torah we are not better than you, we have different duties than you. the better man is the man who does his own duty better. If you do your part as a non Jew better than me doing my part as a Jew than I should look up to you, if anything. Anyway, as I said, as a humanbeing you really touched me and I love you right back.
32. Will Christians Mobilize Demonstrations AGAINST TERROR STATE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.28.06)
Christian leaders, please use your power and influence to mobilize MASSIVE, worldwide street demonstrations against a global Islamic terror state in Israel. JEW DEPORTATION ADVANCED GLOBAL JIHAD WAR Against Israel - 10,000 Jews in Gaza and northern Samaria were ruthlessly rendered jobless and homeless - Israel's military gifted the seized Jewish land and assets to the Islamic PA/PLO terrorist organization. Muslims demand the ethnic cleansing of Jews from militarily strategic, Biblical Judea and Samaria - vital to Israel's defense. Israeli leaders plan to submissively comply with this massive criminal violation of the human rights of Jews and in the process destroy Israel's defense. Stop global jihad's unopposed march to world conquest! Don't surrender Jewish land for Global Islamic Terror State Two - a terror state dedicated to the destruction of Israel and the free world! www.israelnationalnews.com GSS Chief Paints Grim Security Picture of PA-Controlled Areas Aug 30, '06 / 6 Elul 5766 by Hana Levi Julian and Yechiel Spira ...“Samaria has become the land of Islamic Jihad following the Disengagement,” he told the committee. Diskin added that Judea and Samaria have become much harder to control since four Jewish communities in northern Samaria were destroyed by the Israeli government in 2005. Intelligence gathering has also become much more difficult, he said. The senior intelligence community official spoke of the decay of law and order throughout PA-controlled areas in Judea and Samaria. Hizbullah is becoming a greater threat than even Fatah and Hamas within these areas. Smugglers are bringing guns, rockets, missiles and other materiel into Gaza with impunity at this point, he said, despite the presence of Egyptian forces there. The list of weapons and ammunition that smugglers have managed to bring into Gaza is stunning: some 4 million bullets, more than 17,000 guns and pistols, 3 dozen rockets, dozens of anti-tank missiles, 400 RPGs, 15 tons of TNT and up to 15 Katyusha rockets of the type fired from southern Lebanon at northern this summer. “At this point, anyone who wants to smuggle something through the Philadelphi route [into Gaza] can do so. You can smuggle anything through … except maybe a tank or plane,” said Diskin. He warned that within 3-5 years, the Sinai will become a major route for the import of arms for terrorists. "Sinai will become a major threat to Israel if the current trend is permitted to continue," he said... http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=111039
33. fight for Israel
Larry ,   USA   (09.27.06)
A most touching article. I am greatly encouraged and our faith strengthened in YHWH. My wife and I teach Torah and we pray for "peace in Jerusalem" usually 3 times per day. Isaiah says it most beautifully of coming days of prophecy. Praise YHWH forever and ever! Thank you
34. Real Christians support Israel Unconditionally
Craig ,   USA   (09.28.06)
Don't listen to those attempting to cast doubt. We both pray to the same God. We both await the Christ(we simply disagree on who it is)...that is OK. Scriptures indicate evil will increase greatly in the end times ..."as birth pains upon a women". I urge all Jews to seek your God with all your heart, to examine yourselves and see if there be any sin or unrighteousness in your life, and then to ask God to give you the will and strength to repent. Things will probably get worse for us all, so prepare yourselves spiritually. If you are secular, I urge you to reconsider. God has been silent for a very long time it seems...but remember, Scripture says a thousand years is as a day to the Lord...
35. #14..John...what a load of bull!!
Craig ,   USA   (09.27.06)
John...you are simply full of crap. Evangelical Christians don't hate Jews...Period! You are ignorant or simply a liar who can't stand the fact that the Jews of Israel are realizing the friendship of Evangelical Christians is genuine. You obviously aren't a Christian...are you Islamic? Or do you simply hate only Christians. You intentionally attempt to sew distrust. Evangelicals don't blame Jews for the death of Yeshua...simply because they recognize the fact that He came to Earth for that very purpose...to be the ultimate sacrifice. Why would Christians then blame Jews for the very most wonderful sacrifice imagineable? I agree with you on one point...Jews must be keenly discerning of which so called Christian groups they trust. The World Council of Churches traditionally speaks for the liberal wing of Christianity. I wouldn't trust them. I would urge Israelis also to be very wary of the Catholic Church...not that many individual Catholics are sincere in their support of Israel, but any group which mistakenly grants their allegiance to one individual (the Pope) is dangerous (simply look at history to see the Catholic Church can't be trusted). The Evangelicals on the other hand have proven time and time again their support for Israel. I am an Evangelical Christian and I love the Jews...regardless of our disagreement about the true nature and identity of Yeshua. I would consider it the highest honor to fight along side (and give my life if required) my Jewish brethren to defend them and Israel against the Islamic enemy and any other anti-semitic scum out there. You should educate yourself and then engage your brain before opening your mouth and trying to sew your damaging rhetoric. So Jews beware of the motives of the ignorant and the intentionally biased...such "John". Stand strong Israel, your God, and ours, will not be silent forever; and know that tens of millions of true Christians stand with you...even unto death!!
36. Real Arab Christians actually exist!
Daisy ,   USA   (09.27.06)
Naim Khoury and Amir Boutros have actually read the Bible. Most Arabs who call themselves Christians are really Muslims in disguise. Nice to see the real thing. I will pray for these brave and courageous men. May God protect them.
37. John -post 14
Jill ,   Colorado, USA   (09.27.06)
Christians know that Jesus chose to die as a sacrifice. We blame no one. The only Jew that may be to blame if there is one is Caiaphas. But we believe it was all G_d's plan. No one took Jesus away from us. Jesus is Jewish. How can we hate Jews? That is a contradiction. The bible says if you have HATE in your heart you cannot hear the voice of G_d so those you speak of are Christian in name only, as if it were a club to join. Stop spreading hateful insighting misinformation. Please, it is helping no one.
38. To Daisy #26... Good and evil is not so clear
John ,   USA   (09.28.06)
The war in Lebanon, whether you believe is was a reaction to attacks by Hizbullah, or a planned event to destroy Hizbullah’s power in Lebanon, quickly turned into a collective punishment war against the Lebanese to create what looked like attempt to reignite the Lebanese civil war. The message from Israel was to drop bombs on Lebanese towns which had nothing to do with Hizbullah, and then to say “See what Hizbullah has brought you.” They took out bridges up at Jounieh, which is a Christian port. They hit Tripoli port. They bombed Achrafieh, a Christian area of Beirut. They bombed the airport. The whole country was attacked, not just the Hezbollah. And it was an attempt to turn the Lebanese against one another, and it didn't work. The Lebanese, although they have their differences, had a civil war, and they know what that is, and they weren't going to have another one to please the Israelis. Hizbullah was surprised by the Israeli reaction, and may just lose their support from Syria before it’s all over. They committed war crimes by shooting rockets at civilian areas. So I don’t think anyone can say they won the war in Lebanon. But for sure, to say that “It's obvious what side is good, civilized and honorable” is ignorant and ill informed.
39. LeoP #13... Bullet Proof Vest Doesn't Wash
John Sinton ,   USA   (09.28.06)
The bullet proof vest anology doesn't work. The vest is only a last line of defense. Is Israel so paranoid about getting attacked that it's only defense she has? I don't think so. Most people would try to avoid getting shot at in the first place. I guess you would argue there that Israel has no choices. I would argue that the leaders involved in the struggle seem to have a "vested" interest in creating fear, and thus want people to believe the "vest" is the only way. So I will assume for argument that the powers that be want to keep us in fear. After all, Jewish power really stems from the Holocaust. That is to say, the fear that was created led a small minority of people to achieve much in the short time since the creation of Israel. Like you were saying, Jews are geniuses. In all intellectual endeavors, Jews are the best. Even here in the US, Jews lead the struggle for peace and understanding with the Muslims. Fear is the great motivator, and hatred goes hand in hand with fear. Bush wants the US to fear “Islamofacist”. Bush, some say, let Bin Laden get away. Osama creates lots of fear, after all. Assad, Bin Laden, Nazrahallah, and Ahmadinijhad want their people to fear the US and Israel. Olmert wants Israelis to fear Hezbullah, Hamas, and Syria. So I would say that they all want us all to be afraid, and to wear a “vest”. The other way to get rid of the "vest" (other than to kill the wearer) is to no longer have a need for it. To remove the threat or the fear. The question in my mind is how to do that. I appreciate the opportunity to have a frank, sane, and intelligent discussion. Thanks.
40. 18 again?
(09.27.06)
You write the same thing as a response to every article here. You are not obligated to read on.
41. WHO CAN NOT SEE IN THIS THE DRUM-BEAT OF RELIGIOUS WAR?
Knave Dave   (09.27.06)
"The line between the political and the biblical is disappearing," Josh Reinstein, Director of the Caucus, told the meeting. "Around the world, we see the rise of radical Islam come against our Judeo-Christian values, and WE MUST MEET IT WITH A WELL-ORGANIZED RESPONSE." Yes, we must fight terrorism, no matter where it comes from, but the entire context here is that we will fight it as one religious group pitted against another. We will send our own Christian soldiers over from Kenya to fight for Israel, regardless of anything Israel does. The religious Fundamentalists on all sides are playing war drums, none of them caring what devastation they will bring to the world because the end will come, and Messiah, Moshiach, the Mahdi will save them from themselves. I can only speak to the Christian side. Was that what Jesus taught? "Take up the sword and create for me a nation in my name by your own hand and according to your own timing"? I would consider joining Israel in defending the boundaries that were rightfully given to it; but to join an army to create the Promised Land in the boundaries God gave in the Bible -- that's all-out religious war in the name of God.
42. #12 Hare-dimsum are very religious Chinese Jews
(09.27.06)
43. They don't fool me...!
enzo ,   london,uk   (09.28.06)
Surely you are far too intelligent to believe that the Evangelists love Israel! What they love is to see the end of Israel, so that Jesus may bring down on earth the New Jerusalem where they (the Evangelists) will live happily thereafter.
44. Thank you for coming
Kate ,   Jerusalem   (09.27.06)
A giant thank you to the Christians for coming. To the Jewish respondents who shreik "help they are trying to convert us" - get a brain. If you are as secure in your faith as they are in theirs then you have no fear. If you are not secure - then you need to find out why. If you are terriffied that others may not be secure - then you are in a very bad place - indeed. Meanwhile, these faithful men and women from the Christian fold have bravely stood by our side when others flee. I am very encouraged by their care.
45. and you deny calling it a holy war !
(09.28.06)
46. The Evangelical heart
David Joseph ,   Orlando Florida   (09.28.06)
Any conversion that will happen in the Jewish heart will be chosen himself and by the grace of the L-RD. Working through evangelical Christians who walk upright and are faithful, through them HE will show his shining example.
47. it is belonging to me
nora ,   jerusalem   (09.28.06)
it is jerusalem ..becouse i love it more than all ...if any one do not like my post ,,hi aske him to measure my love ,if it is true or not ,,i do not want any support for loving my city
48. Thank You To My Christian Friends
Adina Kutnicki ,   US   (09.28.06)
I would sooner break bread with Evangelical Christian supporters of Israel than fellow Jewish radical leftists who seek to destroy Israel. I say to them - THANK YOU, and we will win a victory over the Islamists only if we stick together. A Jew who knows he/she is a Jew has nothing to fear from the Christian theology. What are they going to do, put us in a trance and convert us??
49. These Fanatics Only Love Israelis So They Can Get Their
World Citizen ,   the world   (09.28.06)
Armmaggedon Then they will convert 144,000 worthy Jews into Christians and put the rest to the sword and cast them into the fires of Hell! The zionists are courting with disaster here. They think they will trick the Christians in the end and survive but don't count on it. The Christians will have righteous vengence on their minds when all comes to pass and their Jesus doesn't come back.
50. I am not an Evangical Christian, or a Jew
Johnson ,   USA   (09.28.06)
But, I love Israel, and will fight for her survival.
51. Why don't our Christian friends condemn Mr. Bush
monk ,   USA   (09.28.06)
George W. Bush wants to divide the land of Israel and create a Palestinian Muslim terrorist state in the Holy Land. He wants to ethnically cleanse Israel of Jews. Where were these "friends?" Where are they? Why won't they condemn the Bush "vision" and the Bush / Suadi Arabia road map for a Palestinian terrorist state? Where are our friends? What is wrong with our so-called Christian friends? Why do they support Mr. Bush and Condoleezza Rice who are waging war against Israel and against the land of Israel? Mr. Bush is not with Israel.
52. #44 Kate
steve ,   USA   (09.28.06)
You're right. Maybe I am too harsh and expect too much from our Christian friends.
53. Why aren't they fighting apostate Bush's Road Map ?
Marcel ,   Florida   (09.28.06)
I have a problem with my fellow Christians who talk and talk aboutr supporting Israel but who are silent about the evil Bush Road Map betrayal of Israel. They need to loudly fight and oppose this lie of false peace from hell .
54. HaShem watches over Israel and marshals the forces
Agent Orange ,   Perth, Australia   (09.28.06)
Where are all of your soldiers, Atheists and Socialists? Here they are tearing at the heels of Israel like a pack of rabid dogs. There they are hollering like a pack of baboons after Bush, Blair, Howard and anybody else who fails to denounce our right to exist. They are constantly stirring up hatred against people of faith who love Israel. Your war against religion is failing miserably, faithless Socialist! The more you attack us, the tighter that we hold on to our values. Nobody will ever convince me to worship my Rabbi, but I am always amicable to a friendly discussion about HaShem and the Tanakh. I am more concerned about you constantly trying to convert Israel with a Queer Eye makeover, than some guy who loves Jesus and Israel. One day you will run out of dirty tricks to divide Jews, Christians and Muslims. Rage impotently as our ranks constantly grow, and fear the wrath of HaShem in this life and the next. HaShem will protect beloved Zion! HaShem bless the USA! HaShem bless the UK! HaShem bless Australia! HaShem bless all our Christian allies, wherever they may be!
55. They really do want to fight
Jamie ,   Ofrah, Israel   (09.28.06)
We get Christians that want to volunteer for the Jerusalem Mishmar HaGvool (Border Guard). They really do want to fight for Israel. Pity they can't, they have impressive motivation.
56. # 39 - John Sinton... touche mate
LeoP ,   Moscow   (09.28.06)
You're right, the bulletproof vest is not the best example, as i was writing it i thought about exactly what you had said... lets just say that no analogy will ever do realism the justice it deserves. There is no example as absurd as the reality we see unfolding in front of us today.
57. 36 daisy - i'm glad you stopped smearing all arabs
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (09.28.06)
it's about time. and i hope your potty mouth has stopped, too.
58. Will Christians Mobilize DEMONSTRATIONS Against PERSECUTED
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.28.06)
PA Christians-VICTIMS of GLOBAL JIHAD? Road Map architects U.S. EU UN - PA/PLO/Hamas political agenda keeps Palestinian Authority Christians persecuted. Take BETHLEHEM and other CHRISTIAN towns inside the green line now! PLO terrorists conducted horrific jihad against Lebanon's Christians murdering huge numbers. http://www.free-lebanon.com Click on photo gallery - 20,000 Christians handicapped by PLO atrocities. PLO savagery was rewarded - PLO terrrorists were implanted into Israel as "peace" partners through Oslo Peace Accords to to continue their barbaric jihad. Christians in PA areas suffer horrendous persecution under cruel occupation of PA/PLO and other terrorist organizations. Christianity Dying In Its Birthplace By Daniel Pipes FrontPageMagazine.com | September 13, 2005 http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19453 "What some observers are calling a pogrom took place near Ramallah, West Bank, on the night of Sep. 3-4. That’s when fifteen Muslim youths from one village, Dair Jarir, rampaged against Taybeh, a neighboring all-Christian village of 1,500 people. The Ajajs and their friends broke into houses and stole furniture, jewelry, and electrical appliances. They threw Molotov cocktails at some buildings and poured kerosene on others, then torched them. The damage included at least 16 houses, some stores,a farm, and a gas station. The assailants vandalized cars, looted extensively, and destroyed a statue of the Virgin Mary. “It was like a war,” one Taybeh resident told The Jerusalem Post. Hours passed before the Palestinian Authority security and fire services arrived. The fifteen assailants spent only a few hours in police detention, then were released. As for Khouriyye, the Palestinian police arrested him, kept him jail, and (his family says) have repeatedly beat him. A cousin, Suleiman Khouriyye, pointed to his burned house. “They did this because we’re Christians. They did this because we are the weaker ones.” The Khouriyyes and others recall the assailants shouting Allahu Akbar and anti-Christian slogans: “Burn the infidels, burn the Crusaders.” This assault fits a larger pattern. According to the Catholic Custodian of the Holy Land, Pierbattista Pizzaballa, Christians in the Bethlehem region alone have suffered 93 cases of injustice in 2000-04. In the worst of these, in 2002, Muslims murdered the two Amre sisters, 17 and 19 years old, whom they called prostitutes. A post-mortem, however, showed the teenagers to have been virgins – and to have been tortured on their genitals. “Almost every day – I repeat, almost every day – our communities are harassed by the Islamic extremists in these regions,” Pizzaballa says. “And if it’s not the members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad, there are clashes with … the Palestinian Authority.” In addition to the Islamists, a “Muslim land mafia” is said to operate. With PA complicity. it threatens Christian land and house owners, often succeeding to compel them to abandon their properties. The campaign of persecution has succeeded...Bethlehem and Nazareth, historic Christian towns for nearly two millennia, are now primarily Muslim. In 1922, Christians outnumbered Muslims in Jerusalem; today, Christians amount to a mere 2 percent of that city’s population." "Islamic mafia accused of persecuting Holy Land Christians" http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/09/09/wmid09.xml Every single agreement has been broken by the PA/PLO, rendering Oslo, Road Map and ALL agreements NULL AND VOID. IDF, HELP! Stop Islamic cruelty. Liberate Christians from ALL terrorist organizations now!
59. The DEADLY SILENCE of Christian Politicians & Leaders
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.28.06)
The U.S. EU UN goal of Global Islamic Terror State Two in Israel is the wicked international betrayal of Israel - Why are so-called Christian U.S. congressmen SILENT on this crime against humanity against Jewish innocents ??? SILENCE IS CONSENT! Christian leaders and politicians - use your considerable power and influence - mobilize MASSIVE worldwide street protests against Global Islamic Terror state Two in Israel and save the Jewish people from the planned second Holocaust! Via the Oslo covenant with death, by international agreement, Israel is the only nation on earth to have PLO terrorists implanted into its Land. Heavily armed and trained - financed by the nations, the PLO's purpose as enshrined in its charter, is the destruction of Israel. The Hamas Charter calls for the murder of all Jews. They call this method of killing Jews, the 'peace process'. Hitler called it the final solution.
60. Islamic WAR STRATEGY is: Divide and CONQUER
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.28.06)
Brothers and sisters: United we stand. Divided, we fall.
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