1. try to take an officer's weapon, you will be shot
that goes without saying.
| mike , |
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2. Illegal resident or palestinian?or both? any connection ?
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3. Question
Were the Police officers British?
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4. 3 - LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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5. Illegal
If his illegal & a palestinian, shouldnt he automatically be shot at sight?
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6. #3
Your incredibly stupid comment "LOL" is one more black mark against you. I simply fail to understand how the death by shooting of anyone can cause you to "laugh out loud". As I have stated before, the lack of humanity which your character shows is abysmal and a stain on your "jewishness".
| Rustum , |
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7. You don`t go traying to snatch a gun from the police man...!
| Harissa , |
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8. Nice Arab liars in our knesset:
Quote: "... It is not only the shooter's responsibility but also that of the forgiving state – which is interpreted as giving a green light to kill innocent citizens."
1. NOT innocent: if the police version is correct, this person was trying to take a weapon of a police officer - i would not try this!
2. NOT citizen: If was stated that this person was an ILLEGAL ALIEN and no citizen of the state. This nice Arab knesset member just leaves his thung roll and roll and roll, without contact to reality.
3. He accused the state and indirectly asks for harder punishments, since he knows that the high court is a gang of left wing self-critiziging European jews.
| uli , |
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9. #6
Rustum dont worry, be happy!
I know you muslims love to laugh and point fingers. Another successful 7/7 and you gona laugh more and more. Brits are not jews. They got huge experience dealing with moslim unrest.
| Rehavam , |
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10. #8 and Uli's remarks
You are very mistaken in your conclusions.
Firstly, if a person is trying to grab a police officer's weapon, is "shoot to kill" the required response? I could guarantee that an orthodox Jew, or even a kippa seruga, would not be shot dead, but only incapacitated.
Secondly, the police officer who murdered the Palestinian did not know that he was an "illegal" when he shot him dead. That could only have been discovered afterwards, therefore the justification is nonsense. Also, I do not believe that Israel has on its statute books a law which allows police officers to shoot illegal aliens dead on sight. If so, there would be thousands of dead Ghanaians, Philipinos, Chinse, on the streets of Tel Aviv.
Your post simply shows that you believe the only punishment for a Palestinian illegal alien inside green line Israel is shooting to death. Pretty horrendous attitude if you ask me - but it obviously makes you feel comfortable.
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11. #9
Your comment is beneath contempt.
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12. rustdumn multi #'s
your such a bufoon you crack me up with your ignorant, prejudice, pompass coments, you must have a really bad relationship with your mother, get a clue and get a life. you fly! :)
| jerome , |
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13. #12
Kindly explain, without recourse to foul language, why it is acceptable for Talula to "laugh out loud" at the death by shooting of a Palestinian?
You have nothing to add to any debate here but a complete dump truck full of racist drivel.
Go on - prove me wrong. Explain why it is correct to shoot people dead rather than immobilise them?
I suspect that youa re just one more first-world-first ugly American right-winger who hates Arabs, Moslems and possibly Jews.
| Rustum , |
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14. Rustum - I've read a # of your talkbacks today
I agree that those you comment on are being less than moral in their comments & at times just nasty.
However you make one mistake. To quote "I suspect that youa re just one more first-world-first ugly American right-winger who hates Arabs, Moslems and possibly Jews." You keep thinking that anyone who's immoral is a right-winger and/or American, etc.. That by itself is prejudice & I ask you to look at that conclusion you come to. Put another way, people can be inmoral & inhuman who from any political background in the world. (Even more annoying is that someone can make an insensitive remark in one circumstance & be sensitive in another.)
| sheri , |
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15. 13 - it is standard procedure
police all over the world are taught that you never surrender your weapon and if someone tries to take it from you, the assumption must be that they are going to use it on you.
according to most every legal system, an officer is innocent of murder if it is proved that the assailant tried to take his weapon.
just because it is a palestinian killed by a jew is totally irrelavent, but it seems you are trying to make this (as most of your post do) issue to be something out of nothing. watch the knee-jerk reactions there; you tend to look silly when you do that.
i do think it is interesting that jerome and rehavam got such a rise out of you by simply giving you a little of your own medicine. you can dish it out, but can't take it, eh?
| mike , |
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16. #14 Sheri apology
You are absolutely right. I overreacted to the comments by Jerome of Basalt, and I apologise for the rotten generalisation I wrote. I fully appreciate that there are millions and millions of decent Americans, and even though I was "agressed" verbally, I should have left my response dealing simply with the issue of an Israeli policeman executing a Palestinian in Jaffa.
You were right to point it out to me.
| Rustum , |
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17. #15 - so totally wrong
Beloved YNET has published on update on this article: "it emerges that the officer cocked his weapon, unprovoked by the victim,
So, would you know like to make some lovely statement upon how the execution of the innocent Palestinian was anything less than that?
Jerome and Rehavam are ibnay-haywanaatayn
| Rustum , |
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18. and, rustrum, the hypocrite, the cop was an arab
so i doubt, like you said, "I could guarantee that an orthodox Jew, or even a kippa seruga, would not be shot dead, but only incapacitated. "
that is just racial stereotyping, the very thing you falsely accused me of many times. hypocrite.
| mike , |
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19. Explanation for
Israeli policeman got NO incentive for killing “pure illegal”. NON what so ever! He will not receive medal, or salary raise. Maximum what he get is load of paperwork and serious investigation in to shooting.
From Oslo agreement time when arabs become “illegal” Israeli police deported probably few millions of illegal workers. With only few allegations of beating. Shooting and killing “illegal worker” on my memory 1st time. You will NOT find better record in ANY police department in the world.
On the other hand. As we all know very well any moslim killing a jew, ANY jew, is a hero, or at least “freedom fighter”. He gets respect from his buddies, huge monetary reward. In case moslim get killed while killing infidels-jews, he gets 73 virgins in heaven, monetary reward for his family, street or school named after him. Did I mention utter admiration from moslim teenagers and his buddies? Vows to repeat his “heroic” did and promise to revenge.
Yes it’s not funny! Revenge for death of suicide bomber who just blow up bus with school kids. But you moslims are funny that way. Rustum you should know that.
That’s why bombing, stubbing of defenseless, rape and murder very NORMAL thing for moslim to do. And Israeli police dealing it with outmost honor and remarkable restraint.
Bottom line if jew grab policeman gun (and it can be moslim-arab Israeli policeman. Yes we got 1000th of them in Israeli police) he intend to kill the police officer in 1 case out of 1 000 000.
If arab-moslem grab policeman gun, he intend to kill the police officer in 999 999 999 cases out of 1 000 000.
This is SIMPLE FACT OF “RACIST” LIFE.
| Rehavam , |
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20. All of us readers should know by now...
You can't judge the truth of an incident by the first story printed, or by the next dozen. It takes time for all the pieces to come out into the light, & sometimes it never happens.
So my view on this incident is -- it's impossible to know if this was a transgression by a dangerous person, or an overreaction by a policeman, or an understandable mistake by either party.
Better it be printed & added to all our knowledge than be kept a secret.
| sheri , |
rockville usa |
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21. Rustum - thanks
I also wrote a response to you on "Abbas hints" article. That was more of a political response & I realized might be a bit dogmatic sounding. But I trust if you have a comment, you'll add it.
To add a thought, something that seems to get lost a lot, is the Israeli & world Jewelry sense of fear from all this stuff. The Arabs often comment on it as being a feeling of arrogance when it's fear. (That's something observed in Arab-Israel joint communication programs during & since the Oslo accords.) Realizing it's fear, makes a lot of the whole thing like look much different.
"LOL" sounds stupid in her/his comment. But it's a relief to have them focused on each other instead of killing us -- & even gives a giddy sign of relief. ...Doesn't excuse the tactlessness of the comment though, but it helps to understand.
Last comment, I see a lot of nastiness here today that I don't usually see on this site. Don't know what's bringing it out.
| sheri , |
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22. #14 sheri
Rustdamn is a hateful moran that blames everyone else (mostly jews)if anybody is insensitive about the truth it is this fool. I might have been inncorrect, he most likely had a shit relationship with both parents.
| jerome , |
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23. Jerome - your posts are consistently hateful
You attack rustrum, but I stand by my statements that many of the comments on here yesterday were unneccessarily nasty. Whatever he's said in the past I haven't read, but what he posted here was not completely informed (in my opinion), but it wasn't nearly as attacking as you have been.
Your insistence on judging his relationship with his parents is bizzarre & rude. Speak only to what a person speaks. Don't tell "your mama jokes" about them. That's hateful behavior, with no basis in any truth. Maybe I should be examing & opining about your relationship with your parents. (Wouldn't make sense to me.)
I may not agree with Rustrum but I appreciate that he heard me on my comment to him, which is more than I can say about you. If someone is open, capable of change, & can see nastiness (i.e. has a soul), then I'll communicate for a while before I form any opinions.
As a fellow Jew I'd really rather you talk back to what Rustrum says & not attack not on the content.
| sheri , |
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