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Straw sparks row over Muslim veil comments
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Published: 05.10.06, 22:44
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1. Note it is the men who are upset!
jonny ,   usa   (10.05.06)
Note it is the men who are upset. Not the women. Hmmmmm
2. Strw is correct. But can he suceed in "Lifting the Veil" ???
KMR ,   Middle East   (10.05.06)
3. Where will it all end?
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (10.05.06)
Is there nothing too petty for these people to complain about? What's next? Western women are supposed to wear veils so as not too offend them? Maybe someone should expleain to those immigrants that "when in Rome, do as the Romans do."
4. He Should Watch It
KevinV ,   Portland, Oregon   (10.05.06)
Infidels like Straw should behave better now so that when the Muslims are their masters they will be treated better, like valued pets.
5. religion and culture
Fares ,   cleveland   (10.05.06)
covering the hair is mandatory ... covering the face is cultural ...as simple as that . the burka in aphganestan is cultural ..even when the Taliban are long gone ..they still wearing them . it is very simple but this gentelman (straw )likes attention and keeps putting his foot in his mouth .
6. Human Rights
josh ,   Manhattan, USA   (10.05.06)
"Islamic Human Rights Commission" EXCUSE ME???
7. Banning the veil
Yuhanna Alqarmidi ,   California, USA   (10.05.06)
If the muslims don't want to intigrate into the Society they are living in, better for them to go back to their countries and cover their faces as much as they like. It is the time to throw those rubbish ninjas from Western countries. Shalom
8. when you go to most arab countries women have to put a scarf
rachel ,   usa   (10.05.06)
or a veil . So please no comments about discrimination against Moslems in the west. where you have choices. We have had enough of the Bull. ....The veil is a way of controlling women . Why do they have to fear men's looks...Are Arab men so dangerous with women?Or do Arab men hate women that much?
9. #3 - I don't support the veil, but you are retarded.
Khalid   (10.06.06)
"Western women are supposed to wear veils so as not too offend them?" I'd say there's a slight difference between forcing a women not to comply with what she believes is right, and having "western women wear veils," as you suggest. "Maybe someone should expleain to those immigrants that "when in Rome, do as the Romans do."" So everyone should dress exactly like each other? Even orthodox Jewish men? Even the Amish? No turbans for Seeks? Where do we draw the line?
10. Bracing for violent protest
Besalel ,   Kew Gardens, NY   (10.06.06)
I guess once the Arab mass gets wind of this story there will be, once again, violent protests in the name of Islam (which means peace, we are always reminded).
11. Muslims Seething
David ,   Boston   (10.06.06)
Their constant anger and seething have become tiresome. Do these people ever do any useful work?
12. i wonder....
megan gray ,   former UK   (10.06.06)
how they go about having a passport photo taken!!!! or pic for driving licence etc etc.......sorry muslem guys seems its you that want it not the gals.....If we have to conform in muslemcountries...sorry they have to in western countries...dont like it LEAVE! In Luton you can feel you are in a casbar and not sainsburys..lol...btw school uniform isnt a damn burka...not in the UK, but can see whyits good in dusty places..keeps the flies off too!
13. to #6 - Islamic Human rights commission
dorothy ,   kansas   (10.06.06)
Islamic Human Rights Commission: Stoning instead of Beheading.
14. Muslims offended again? Ho humm. YAWN.
I hate the Dodgers ,   Go Mets!   (10.06.06)
15. Havent you heard of a MULTI-CULTURAL country?
Josh ,   B.C. Canada   (10.06.06)
16. 5 Youre stupidity makes sense..
freedom ,   canada   (10.06.06)
Are you speaking gentlemen when you refer to the five christian churches that were torched in the west bank... laughable...
17. oh dear oh dear
peggy ,   of UK   (10.06.06)
whining ,windging, moaning, complaining, campaigning, demonstrating, rioting.....they are getting to be the biggest bore.......are they never happy? yes it is yawn umm yawn again. are they upset once more....me thinks there is an evil plot, plan each day "now how can we upset the muslems today" tee hee hee...not hard by all acounts. Do the Brits really care, NO, anyone I talk to would rather see them go back from whence they came. Bravo John Howard of Oz..takes no BS , lays it on the line.
18. Muslim countries should give non-Muslims ALL the RIGHTS...
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.06.06)
that we give to Muslims in our countries: Equality in law courts Freedom of speech Freedom of religion Freedom from persecution Human Rights Commission empowered to protect non-Muslims
19. Straw and all men should wear the full face veil too
Jamil Baroody ,   Jeddah, True Arabia   (10.06.06)
when meeting with them, out of respect and solidarity with the oppressed Muslim women who are forced to do so.
20. We don't have to adapt to Muslims who will not
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (10.06.06)
adapt for foreigners visiting their countries. They can move back to the Arab pennisula and wear their veils. Freedom from nutbags forcing their religion down everyones throats--The USA. Secularism rules. Fares is welcome back in Saudi Arabia. He can visit Mecca, while we would be stoned for the same visit.
21. HE IS RIGHT.he wants to know if she has done B.J
MASSOUD ,   USA   (10.06.06)
IF A BRITISH OR USA LADY GO TO SAUDI ARABIA SHE MUST COVER HER HEAD.THE ARABS NEED TO LEARN TO RESPECT OTHER CULTURES TOO.NO VEIL WE WANT TO SEE THE UGLY LADY WITH MUSTASH
22. Where it will all end?
ABRAVANEL ,   MONTREAL, CANADA   (10.06.06)
Right. When in Rome... But where are Rome's legions to make her laws and civilization respected.? We live in a world rather looking like decadent Rome, with the Barbarians invading and degenerate ''Romans'' submitting to the new totalitarian horror (i.e. Sooner green than dead).
23. Make the men cover up also
jason white ,   afula,israel   (10.06.06)
Leave women alone.Why do they have to cover up all the time and mencan go around dressed as they please.Let the men be discomfitted in the summer with veils and burkas and whatnot. Women are humans also.
24. MAKEUP NEXT?
Arik Silverman ,   Milwaukee USA   (10.06.06)
Some women wear so much makeup on their faces they might as well be wearing a veil.
25. I am ashamed at these talkbacks. Are you people really Jews?
Bechor   (10.06.06)
How would you feel if a Muslim country forced orthodox Jewish women to remove their head coverings? Or if they banned the traditional Hassidic clothing? Or if they banned all males from wearing Kippot? This man has no place telling these women what they should or should not wear.
26. To(#8) Rachel,USA
Amir AL-Safir ,   Lebanon   (10.06.06)
Without due annoyance to you Rachel, but you may find it more educational if you care to talk to an Arab or Muslim women with head scarf or veil on for their opinion. Rather than condescend to naivety., you may learn to respect the choices of others if you care to talk to one of them. I myself do not subscribe to veil at all. I am a Muslim man but I don't like the idea of conversing with somebody who I cannot see the face I am talking to. Neither I like the idea of conversing with any one wearing dark glasses .. same token. Its just the etiquette of all things to be able to have eye contact when talking to some one. Amir
27. To(#18)Linda Rivera --> Nicely put....
Amir AL-Safir ,   Lebanon   (10.06.06)
Hi again, Nice said. I could not have said it better. In this respect, it may interest you to know that Arab and Muslim women in countries like Egypt and Asia are taking "Men" to courts to redefine woman's right under Islamic law. I am all for that because there are so many redundancies in the Muslim world and it’s about time to overhaul the archaic system in MENA (MiddleEast and North Africa) as well as in Asia. I think ones the ball starts rolling, the rest will follow and hopefully it will be a good place to visit and enjoy other people’s culture. Amir
28. what utter nonsense
pierre ,   belgique   (10.06.06)
These Muslim women,must not forget that they are in a NON muslim country,even though they are trying their utmost to conquer it. A thief couvers his face for obvious reasons,(Not to be recognized)uhg,But here we are dealing with legal matters;;;This veiled woman could well be an imposter;Like taking the place of somebody else,for "WELFARE "payments?hmm So with all due respect to her religion,and "reasons for veiling her face and body,(Pressure from husband?)The Western way of life ,and Laws,should not allow this ,so why do the Muslims insist??When In the presence of a gouvernment cleric,take off the veil,,and when leaving put it back on;;Couver your whole body,for all I care, All I see here ,is a total LAck of respect for English Laws.and customs.When Western woman go to Muslim countries,do they not have to couver up their heads?? You see its all about RESPECT,and these muslim refuseniks,do NOT respect Our Western culture,let alone our laws.I ask you what the use of ID cards are for If one cannot see the full face of the Holder?? This veil thing,is Rediculous;and if these Muslim women do not see fit the reasons for Unveiling for certain circumstances,then they should try for citizenship in Afghanistan or Iran or Saudi arabia,where they can walk 24 hours a day ,with their veils on;Have all their pictures taken with a veil,But as they are living in a Democratic country,that has laws,and regulations ,they Must oblige ,POINT FINALE.
29. identification parades
Tommy ,   belfast uk   (10.06.06)
How will ian blair handle a female muslim shoplifter in an identification parade :) In fact-How will jack straw or anyone else for that matter know if he is talking to or looking at a female or bin laden himself so Jack I think is wrong about the veil breaking no laws when the security of the country is at stake
30. #25
AJ   (10.06.06)
The article says nothing about muslim women wearing a hijab (head scarfs), it specifically mentions full face covering only. In western societies, covering your face gives others the impression that you have something to hide or covering your face because you have malicious intentions. Do you think it's appropriate for an individual to walk into a bank wearing a ski mask or full face motorcycle helmet? No it's not. Why should muslim women be exempt when everybody else has to abide by the law? As far as religion goes, yes Orthodox Jews wear head coverings but they don't cover their faces either. Therein lies the difference.
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