1. The Dhimmi Mayor speaks
I don't recall the Jews during Hitlers time bombing planes, bombing, subways, bombing buildings, killing people who drew pictures of Moses they did not like, rioting in the streets, threatening to kill everyone in the West, threatening to conduct a Jewish version of Jihad, and the list goes on.
Muslims come to the West and they don't assimilate. They instead of accepting the ideals of the West, shun the West and demand everyone kowtow to their demands. They are a rude group of immigrants who riot during Ramadan and any other time some one says even the slightest thing which "miffs" them. They are like water is to oil in the West. They demand that they can wear the full face veil even when their driver's license photo is taken for identification or when they are to testify in court. Then decry discrimination and whine with a "we are victim" mentality. I dont' recall the Jews ever acting childish and/or as repugnant as the Muslims are doing in the West. The Jews did not march in the streets demanding death to a country and everyone that does not SUBMIT to them.
The mayor is a fool. He is a part of the dhimmi crowd in Europe which may result in the demise of Western Europe as we know it. To save the West from complete Islamification where you either convert, submit & pay a tax, or die, there will probably need to be a civil war. Islam is doing by immigration what it could not do by invading armies in the past. They plan to dominate Europe one day.
The mayor said he had ‘never asked a Jew to remove his kippa, a Sikh to remove his turban or a Christian to remove his cross.
Well fine for him. Those items do not cover the face. The veil which covers the face and is not mandatory under Islam, should be outlawed.
If a Muslim does not like the ways of the West, they should leave. How arrogant and rude to think the West must bow to their ways.
If a Muslim comes to my office, she will remove the veil or she can leave her choice.
I suspect this fool mayor with his idiotic comparison does so due to intimidation. Already the Western politicians are intimidated by Islam within their borders. But the people are getting angry and one day a deluge will pour forth for the true victims are not the Muslims but the Westerns who must live among them.
Great sites:
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/
| Darren , |
Tampa, FL USA |
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2. thank you; Livingstone
his good heart is a gift from God; whether he is a catholic or protestant.
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3. Livingston for Gaza Mayor
The comparison Livingstone is doing is simply asinine.
As matter of facts, Jews didn't kill or attempt to anyone in the Germany of the thirties, neverthless they have been reputed guilty of all the turmoil in the post WW I Germany.
Muslims fundamentalists are GUILTY of putting bombs in the London Tube and for preaching submission of UK (and of the whole world...) to Islamic domination.
Livingstone is not good as mayor of any western city: his wiew of facts is distorted. He is better entitled to became mayor of Gaza. There surely will find a LOT of people that will agree on his (mis)analysis...
| Paolo Ortenzi , |
Rome, Italy |
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4. The difference is that the Jews weren't blowing up trains
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5. veil proves no interest in integration
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6. Except German Jews did not do suicide bombings on buses
| Dudu , |
Kfar Sava |
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7. Livingston,Mayor of Londonistan for next Sec. General of OIC
| KMR , |
Middle East |
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8. listen to him: he should know.
I have no problem believing you are the followers of the nazis. God knows you fit the job. But don't give yourself the credit of making the Muslims the new Jews. The Jews in Europe never rioted and threatened violence. They never plotted to bomb Germans and never killed any German or non German for that matter. They didn't even revench the holoucast by bombing German buses or threatening them with revenge. Not to mention revenging the burning of their books. In that sence the Muslims in Europe are only giving you what you deserve. It is ironic to see how they revenge everything we never have. Good for them.
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9. This guy is a flake... It would sound as if
he is anti Israel...... or am I dreaming....
| freedom , |
canada |
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10. To #1 Well put Darren. I agree with you 100%!
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11. Veils cover faces, a Kippa or a turban does not
Ken Livingstone is an absolute Prick and I cannot believe he is the Mayor of London.
Veils, especially when they cover the face completely are a little frightening to say the least. If Muslim women want to wear them, then maybe they should move back to a Muslim country were they will blend in with the rest. Why go live in a predominately Christian country in the first place. For a better life? for sure! to change the rules and culture of that country? Good luck!
| Isabella , |
Israel |
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12. He is obsessed with the Nazis!
| Jennifer , |
London formerly TA |
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13. #1 What veil has to do with extremists' actions ?
and (killing people who drew pictures of Moses they did not like), wrong;
muslims highly respect Moses; this is integeral part of their beliefs.
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14. racism?
The Laws are to respect. If a Law prevents from going in disguise since under the masquerade for road he could hide a criminal, this Law is not a racist Law. Today for prevent from doing of the harm to the next, if one applies an intelligent concept, he comes considered a racist. One scolds a child becaouse hesteal an apple, that is considered a racist. An other also defends with the strength if one enters house his with wicked intentions is racist. A fool insults an other with a bad word he is racist. It is necessary give a place and a purpose to the words that they are pronounced!
| silvio , |
italy |
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15. Rubbish in the media
More rantings from a habitual populist aiming to score points with his constituents. I think we all know how it works by now: pick on Jews and promote Muslim interests in Britain, and watch your popularity soar. How couragious and original! Like he should be the one to complain about rubbish in the media.
I am not aware of any debate to actually outlaw wearing the veil, which KL seems to use as a starting point for his demagoguery. There is a debate with regards to which circumstances make it appropriate to wear a veil, and which do not. I would not want my daughter to be taught in kindergarden by a teacher completely covered in black, with eyes barely visible through the slits. It is not the image, it is not the form of interaction, or a role model, that I would want my daughter to be accustomed to. I have absolutely no objections to the teacher wearing a veil, or piano, or clown mask, or whatever she wants, on her own time.
This reminds me of Somali Muslim taxi drivers refusing to take passengers carrying duty-free liquor at the Minneapolis/St. Paul (USA) Intl. airport. Nobody forces them to pick up people carrying liquor in their own private cars, on their own private time. But if you are WORKING as a taxi driver, at an airport, of all places, you are obliged to pick up ALL paying passengers. If you cannot, don't drive taxis, do something else. Don't ram your religion and customs down my throat, and then call me intolerant.
| Saul , |
Barcelona |
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16. Up is down, black is white, good is bad
I see that 1984 is a little bit late in arriving but it has come to the party none the less.
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17. Redolent
Mr Livingstone's active support of Islamic supremecist organisations who preech ethnic cleansing of non-muslims and murder of Jews is very redolent of Nazism!
| Sane Israeli , |
Tel Aviv |
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18. Victimhood...
As a right-on, ideological leftwinger, Livingstone has one thing in common with the Islamo-fascists he supports... a self-indulged, self-promoting fantasy of assumed victimhood. Conveniently fogetting the vicious anti-Semitism and paranoia of the Soviet Union and her vassal states because to admit that Lenin's foul regime only survived by means of the police state, he draws his inspiration from the only ideologically acceptable historical example of tyranny - the Nazi regime.
It doesn't matter that the Western democratic powers never practised arbitrary arrest and slammed their fellow-travelling socialist sympathizers into prison camps after show trials devoid of any rule of law; that they never intentionally starved their populations, that they accepted dissent and criticism from those who would have ended the centuries-long evolution in social freedom that is democracy, they are and will always remain, in what passes for Livingstone's perverted, pointed little mind, the capitalist aggressors against the establishment of the international workers' state... Oh, shed a tear for the nostaligia of the cosy, one-party state days of yore...
Despite the fact that Britain and other European nations well-nigh invented the self-destructive ethos of "multi-culturalism" in order to accommodate the demands of an intransigent, stubborn and intolerant immigrant Moslem population in their midst, providing social wellfare, casting a blind eye to polygamy and female genital mutilation, offering circumcision on the state and allowing the introduction of interest-free "Islamic" banking to placate their ever-increasing demands - and even went to war in Bosnia to protect them - the Moslems of the West still like to think that they are the victims of Western intolerance.
Six million Jews died in the Holocaust and were the genuine victims of irrational hatred. Livingstone and the Moslems look back to that horror and stamp their feet like spoilt, petulant children and conjure up imaginary persecution in a fit of jealousy because they can't have their own way and feign victimhood at the hands of their supposed enemies. Victimhood, real or imaginary, is clearly the right-on order of the day. It's the same old story... the Jews get all the luck.
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19. Red Ken is a nazi
He blames everything on Jews and Israel.
| Kyle , |
Southpark, CO, USA |
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20. #18 Nice commentary Lior
| Darren , |
Tampa, FL USA |
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21. London so called "mayor"
Firstly: a kippa, turban and cross cannot be compared to a bank robber's mask that these women put on. Who can tell who is behind them?
Secondly: Jews in Germany were blamed just for being Jews. In England Moslems are associated with sedition and terrorism such as bombing buses, planning to bring down passenger airplanes and who knows what else?
| jack , |
San Diego, USA |
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22. Why perseucte Jews and Muslims?
Responding to the talkbacks of #1 and #3, why did europeans persecute, rob amd murder Jews? By your own admission it wasn't b'cos they wee any threat. they were murdered, robbed and deported simply for refusing to assimilate "spritually" uderdeveloped western ways - b'cos our wives covered their hair and dressed modestly, our men and thiers grew their beards and peoth and b'cos we were thoroughly in love with our heritage and traditional Jewish way of life. This the ONLY reason the "west" caused us so much suffering.
The muslims in spite of their potential to be "harsh", whenthey accepted us, REALLY accepted us with ALL our traditions and ways (and in some cases poll tax).
Well now the west has succeeded in decimating the tradional Jewish way of life in their countries. Perhaps All-h has sent the muslims to enable you to confront honestly the sins against the Jewish people. Rather than lashing out at muslim ways (modesty of women and facial hair among men), confront honestly the bigotry endemic in the "west" and repent. If the political "right" does not repent the liberal "left" will do it for you, in a way that will not be good for your societies.
"Conservatives", Rightwingers, learn Torah and deal with the bigotry, love good (even the good in Islam) and hate evil (even the evil in "western" ways), encourage modesty among your daughters and Torah learning among your sons and all will be well. Inshall-h!
And try to be less dependent on middle-eastern energy.
| Abdullah , |
Marakesh, Moroqo |
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23. Livingstone LOL
Livinstone called a Jewish reporter a nazi now he says the bruhaha about moslem women covering their face with veils reminds him of the nazi era.This guy is elected by by citizens of Londonstan?LOL
| Rod , |
Fargo USA |
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24. mullah livingstone speaks!
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25. Theres L again, rabbiting on about veils AND JEWS
With some people ,everything reminds them of SEX
With Livingstone , everything reminds him of JEWS
When he cant fall asleep at night , he doesnt count sheep - He counts JEWS
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26. KIPPAS TURBANS CROSSES DONT CONCEAL FACES LIKE CRASH HELMETS
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27. Why are Jews Silent
We muslims expected Jews to stand with us in the veil row. We had hoped they would have sided with us that women to wear any dress. We wished them to have defended us against discrimination and media propaganda against us. But I am sorry to say that although Jews are decent people who believe in Prophet Moses, peace be upon him, they did not speak against such attacks on our women. Muslim community was disaapointed to see that British Jewsish leaders remained silent on this attack on our sisters. I am very saddened.
| Umar , |
Britain |
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28. Well said 1 and 17 but....
After reading through the first 26 talk backs i realized that there is not 1 person ATTEMPTING to refute what 1 or 17 said, want to know why? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T!! 1 and 17 stated very clearly and thouroughly that muslims bring this on themselves like spoiled children who can't get what they want. so just amuse me people, is there any one out there who can refute thier arguement because what they say sure looks good.
| Jewish American , |
USA |
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29. #27
Perhaps the Jews are silent for they do not wish to be associated with terrorism.
Or be associated with a group who tries to force others to submit to their ways and when they don't get their way they make threats, engage in violence, and cry discrimination.
I can understand the Jews staying way clear of such a culture of tyranny.
| Darren , |
Tampa, FL USA |
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30. Jewish silence
Why should the Jews support a group whose book calls for their destruction?
Or who marches in London calling for the destruction of Israel, Jews, the U.S., and the West?
I guess you expect the Danes to stand by you too?
Netherlands? No a man was murdered for exercising his right of free speech when he did a movie of you know who...
Riots were held in Sweden during Ramadan. I bet you get Swedish support.
Riots were held in France during Ramadan. I bet you get French...uh forget the French for they wisely outlawed the veil....nevermind.
| Darren , |
Tampa, FL USA |
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