Thanks, Umar, for wishing peace upon Moses. I'm sure he's grateful in the Olam Haba (world to come). What I and my fellow Jews and fellow citizens here in London are a little more interested in is peace upon us. Any ideas how that could possibly be achieved? Go on, give us a clue... No-one has told your womenfolk not to cover up... Jack Straw simply said he found it culturally difficult to talk to a woman whose face he cannot see. No-one has even suggested it should be made illegal, such as in Turkey - which is, of course, an Islamic country. Why ever should we assist you in your perceived victimhood? And what are you going to do if we don't? Blackmail us with another couple of bombs? Bully us some more? Have a care, the till's ringing full and we're running out of change... It is not within British culture for women to hide their faces. British men are not rapists and British women are not tarts. We don't want the veil because we don't need the veil. No-one ever objected to visitors to this country who carried on as at home - we are sensitive in that respect to different customs. But we are talking here about native-born British women who are making a political point. If you don't like our way of life and customs, I invite you to go and live in an Islamic country - try Iran, where faces are not concealed either, or Egypt or Syria or Iraq, or... well, most Islamic countries in fact, which do not culturally demand concealment. I notice women in those countries are not exactly manning the barricades in order to cover up. Why should Britain, a Christian land with an established church, be required to be more Islamic than the Islamic world? We Jews have made a success of our integration into British society because we didn't insist on being more Jewish than an intellectual abstraction of what a Jew should be. Why not try a little respect for your host culture that has brought you so much more than you would have had in... well, any Islamic country you care to name for that matter, veil or no veil. I don't notice a rush at the airports as you all try to get out. Britain remains one of the freest countries in the world. Don't expect the Jews to change that on your behalf.

And sadly, the same is being done today against the hijab.

Create the conditions in Israel whereby Jews from Britain have a place to go once they can no longer tolerate people like Umar #27. The British people as such have no relevance beyond encourage Aliyah. G-d bless Avidgor Lieberman.

Shalom, It is a disappointment that the Jewish establishment has not yet woken up to the threat that the current attack on Muslim religious observance represents for Jews who wish to be religiously observant. But this is also unsuprising, since Jews as a small and weak minority accomodated themselves to "Western reality" over a 100 years ago: either they abandoned public religious observance which was marked as different or they changed the custom so as not to be too obvious (like ultra-orthodox Jewish women wearing wigs rather than headscarves). Can you expect Jewish leaders to publically support the larger Muslim minority. Ideally yes: but only on matters of principle regarding religious practice or regarding the right to cover one's hair. There is no material reason for Jews to support a woman who covers her face. So why should they? Since they lost this fight a 100 years ago, they are dependent on you winning it today: they are highly unlikely now to change the habit of keeping their heads down, when they only risk being hit by the flak as well. Maybe not principled, but at least understandable, don't you think?

and to those jews that say they never bombed etc- the Jews declared WAR in 1933 on Germany- google for the headlines- and the jew declared war by economic strangulation- this was the root of WW2- beginning- google it for yourselves people-

talkback #14 to the article concerning the Cancel Israel sticker sported by London buses about 2 months ago: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3301212,00.html

who is mocking you silly woman, I dont see mockery in any article regarding the veil. It is just an obstruction to identification. eg: a thief....hit and run driver. Also I do wonder about Driving licence and passport pictures. Could be anyone under the veil, even a man or felon on the run Does that expalin the problem better to you Ellen! IT IS NOT AGAINST HEADCOVERING, BUT FACING COVERING.

a prize ditz and always 1st prize.

Such a shame that the world failed to realize that a pre-emptive strike, even in 1933, would have saved so many human lives and such utter destruction of Europe and other parts of the world. Just take a look at the 1930 election poster of 1930: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_German_Workers_Party

A tolerant apprach to Arabs living in London and elsewhere in the Western countries might most probably cost lives of innocent people, Jews and non-jews. Beware the coming boomerang !!!

sorry, I meant the Nazi election poster in 1930.

British Jews please move to Israel.

first of all.. you're mixing things up.. what does Muslim women covering thier faces have to do with certain POLITICAL groups who have carried out attacks against the West?? your problem is that you have justified everything against Muslims because some radical groups (who in the first place know nothing about Islam but use it as a cover for thier sick ideas) have attacked you.. you have justified wars on Muslims.. you have justified desecrating the Muslim prophet.. and now you are justifying changing the Muslim women costume under the slogan of "look what Muslims had done"!! "I don't recall the Jews during Hitlers time bombing planes, bombing, subways, .......... threatening to conduct a Jewish version of Jihad, and the list goes on. " those have been carried out by the same extremist group whom we Muslims regard as radicals so this does not give you the right to say this as if all Muslims are guilty.. Muslim immigrants have blended with the Western societies while at the same time holding on to thier culture and religion.. the face cover is not a must in Islam and Muslim women have the right to choose whether or not to wear it.. I believe that a woman has the right to cover her face in public but when she is asked to remove it for excused security reasons then she should not refuse.. throughout your post you have spoken of Muslims as emigrants although most of the Muslims you refer to are either those whose families have emigrated a long time ago and are now citizens just like other citizens or original Westerners who have converted to Islam... so your discussion of who Muslims in the West are is inaccurate.. Muslims are not looking forward to "ruling the world" because Islam recognises the concept of pluralism and Muslims are to accept others and respect them as long as this acceptance is mutual.. " 049.013 O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). " what you refer to as what Islam could not do by armies in the past is another is another inaccurate view of Islam's history.. when Muslims have created an empire the world at that time was divided into empires.. so there was no means of surviving except by being an empire.. if Muslims hadn't created an empire they would have perished under the rules of other empires.. history was actually a witness on Muslims' glory.. Muslims rank on the highest level of nobility in thier treatment of the defeated and thier tolerance towards other races and religions.. what conquerors would create a work of art in the country they conquered and then leave without causing any destruction in the country they built?? look at Spain.. until now tourists come to watch the remenants of Islams nobility and glory.. it's one thing to ask the West to bow to Muslim ways and quite another to ask them to RESPECT Muslims' rights to practice thier ways.. the West have always been boasting with thier democracy, freedom, and acceptance of the rights of others.. so they should either respect the rights of others OR confess that they are not as democratic as they claim to be and as a result stop preaching us on democracy and rights.. because this would be hypocrisy..

finally i as a muslim welcome these comments by London mayor,who really has shown the actual pic of UK.He really is a symbol of justice to me,its not only about muslims,its about all the religions of the world.And we should respect them all.

Having read the preceding comments with interest I now stand amazed at the latent primitive hatred, fear and verbal violence poured out upon anyone daring to be different than themselves. Particular shame on those of Jewish origin who above all people should know what it is like to be persecuted for being "different" and yet have pored venom and hatred on women who choose to wear an article of clothing to veil their face. Jack Straw ... you are contemptable in your abuse of power over such women ... cowardly indeed. The world needs love and acceptance not hatred and division.

Thank you steve.(45) I am very sick of the hateful racist comments made by those of jewish origin (or any origin!) The comment Jews did not bomb trains etc. may be quite right but now Israel is more than making up for that, but on the wrong people of Palestine and Lebanon. The only democracy which blows up houses, flattens countries and urges war on NPT states while having their own stockpile of nuclear weapons to obliterate those who don't want to be their slaves

the poster might prove #35's point. It denotes a 10 years-period of provocation by the Jews in the aftermath of financial crisis. Declaring war by economic strangulation war would have driven "any" national sociialsist labour (=arbeiter) party into madness.

It happened that large number of Jewish women I saw were putting head covers. Whether they were orthodox or not, I think no body ever asked them to take off their head cover.

What on earth are you talking about? The Nazi had been spewing racial hatred and Aryan supremacy for 13 years before the Jews declared economic sanctions. The poster PREDATES this declaration by some three years.

Muslims don't commit suicide bombings and Jews don't flatten houses in Lebanon, Britons didn't illegally invade Iraq. Terrorists commit suicide bombings and war criminals attacked the civilians in Lebanon and invaded Iraq. When we talk about the crimes of the Nazi we did not mention their Christian affiliation. I would prefer if women did not wear the veil but so long as its their decision its really none of our business.

What if they start to demand that orthodox Jews shave their beards and remove their hats so that they can "look them in the face". Be careful what you support. Because you are not the victim today does not mean you won't be the victim tomorrow.

How the 1933 Jewish economic war was imposed and Zionists were actively collaborating with the Nazis has become the untold story ? In response to Brennar and others, the Zionist reaction has usually consisted of declarations that their collaboration with Nazi Germany was undertaken solely to save the lives of Jews. But the collaboration was all the more remarkable because it took place at a time when many Jews and Jewish organizations demanded a boycott of Germany. To the Zionist leaders, Hitler's assumption of power held out the possibility of a flow of immigrants to Palestine. Previously, the majority of German Jews, who identified themselves as Germans, had little sympathy with the Zionist cause of promoting the ingathering of world Jewry to Palestine. But the Zionists saw that only the anti-Semitic Hitler was likely to push the anti-Zionist German Jews into the arms of Zionism. For all the modern-day wailing by worldwide supporters of Israel (not to mention the Israelis themselves) about "the Holocaust", they neglect to mention that making the situation in Germany as uncomfortable for the Jews as possible - in cooperation with German National Socialism - was part of the plan. This was the genesis of the so-called Transfer Agreement, the agreement between Zionist Jews and the National Socialist government to transfer German Jewry to Palestine. According to Jewish historian Walter Laqueur and many others, German Jews were far from convinced that immigration to Palestine was the answer. Furthermore, although the majority of German Jews refused to consider the Zionists as their political leaders, it is clear that Hitler protected and cooperated with the Zionists for the purposes of implementing the final solution: the mass transfer of Jews to the Middle East. Edwin Black, in his massive tome The Transfer Agreement (Macmillan, 1984), stated that although most Jews did not want to flee to Palestine at all, due to the Zionist movement's influence within Nazi Germany a Jew's best chance of getting out of Germany was by emigrating to Palestine. In other words, the Transfer Agreement itself mandated that Jewish capital could only to go Palestine. Thus, according to the Zionists, a Jew could leave Germany only if he went to the Levant. http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

those hasidics hiding behind those little danglin braids on the side- need to be cut off- not only do they hide their faces but they look riducoulous.

Look, whoever you are, what are you trying to prove here? That there was no Holocaust? That the "Zionists" conspired with Hitler to wipe out European (and North African) Jewry? Economic sanctions justify what hapenned in WWII? And yes, I bet Hitler made life "as uncomfortable" as possible for German Jews (as well as Jews from Poland, the Ukraine, Greece, Yugoslavia, Holland, Hungary, a.s.o.). I bet you would feel no better if you had to travel in a cattle car for days nad nights without food or water, only to be taken to a gas chamber upon arrival and then shoved unceremoniously into an oven. I checked some of your references and here is what I found: Edwin Black - The Transfer Agreement - between 1933-1939 60 thousand Jews were allowed to travel to Palestine. They were not allowed to take their money out of Germany, only German merchandise. But then, how do you explain this other book? http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/ The final solution was not the transfer of Jews to Palestine, but the mass murder of the Jewish people: http://www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/finlsol.html http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/fsol.htm http://www.h-net.org/~german/gtext/nazi/wanneng2.html The Jerusalem mufti, al-husseini, arafart's uncle, travelled to Berlin to meet with hitler, and promised to help exterminate the Jews in Palestine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC8gPaxV_O0&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d51poygEXYU&search=Hitler%20Amin%20Al%20Husseini%20Islam%20nazi notice also how he undermines the final chance to save Jews, among them 4000 children, from Romania and Hungary, meant to flee to Palestine. See also how he recruits muslim volunteers for the Waffen SS. So your allegations are dubious, dear anonymous, smacking of conspiracy, at best.

I love it when birds of same feathers flock together supporting each other, and they might be the same nut supporting himself. First, I will restrain myself from referring to Jews as I am not as stupid as the posters to generalize on religion, race or anything... I refer to the stupidity ideology the people share, not their religion or race or other factors. #1 blames muslims of victimhood, forgetting that Zionist perfected this trade and made and still making a hell of money out of it, and blackmailing countries in supporting their surrogate cancer state called Israel. # 1 blames Muslims (Generalizing of not assimilating into the society, forgetting that Muslims comes in different colors and shapes and cultures and backgrounds...) unlike his type who like leaches sucks the blood of the societies they live in, controllng their economies, media until it backfires back on them...just read the history. Who was living in Getto's isolating themselves from society! As for the acts of some to be blamed on the majority, I would like to remind #1 of who bombed David Hotel or killed UN representative? Or who massacred civilians, or who is boming and killing muslims around the world in Afganstan, Iraq and most importantly the oppression and killings and stealing of land, water, resources in Palestine! I think those who are master in these civilized mass killings are not Muslims, and If I am naive like the posters, I would say they are christians, Jews, but I will not generalize like them...look in the mirror before you talk, and protect your glass house before throwing stones on others!

I would simply like to remind J.J. that he lives in a nation that will NOT allow a JEW in their country let alone allow freedom of religion. I would simply like to remind J.J. that Christians have to practice or worship in secret in his country and that one can not have or carry a bible in public. I would like to remind J.J. that a Muslim who leaves the evils of Islam and converts to Christianity or another faith faces getting their head chopped off. I would remind J.J. that public school text books in Saudi Arabia teach hate against the Jew and advocates violence against them. I would remind J.J. that Saudi Arabia has paid monies to Palestinians who put bombs around their waist to blow people up. Saudi Arabia is a totaliarian state. In Saudi Arabia there is no "integration" for they do NOT allow diversity. You are a Muslim and you can't change. If you are one of the few Christians living in fear in Saudi Arabia you worship in private. Jews are extinct in Saudi for they are not allowed. If one shows up they wont' last long! Great integrating state!!!! Islam is MORE than a religion. It is a political ideology, with Saudi Arabia determined to set up caliphates throughout the world just like it. God forbid. I thank God that I don't live under that tyranny. Islam is a fraudulent "faith". Its "god" allah of the Quran is Satan. When I look in the mirror J.J. I just am grateful I don't see you or the tyranny of Islam in the reflection. By the way J.J. welcome to a Jewish site where you have the liberty of free speech to post your bilge. That very liberty which would be denied me on a Saudi website or in public. I bet I can't say in Mecca that Muhammad is a false and fraudulent prophet, hell be upon his soul, and a tool of Satan without getting my heard cut off. Right J.J.??? Try not to lie for we all know the answer...

I know my country for its good and bad practices and I know my goverment for its bad and good deeds... Anlayzing your message, nothing worth replied to, as it does not have substance, just filth of poisons spitted out of a hatred heard who knows nothing about the topic he/she claims to be expert on...As a muslim, I do not have the same naivity or liberity like you do to dehuminze Moses (Peace Be Upon Him) as he is not your prophet, or Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) as he is not your prophet...they are my prophets as much as Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him) and that is a big difference between us. Shall I quote you Talmud verses that are full of filths, or from the bilble that is full of contradictory...I told you before and I shal repeat it again: Do not throw a stone when your house is made of glass! Shall I quote you verses from Talmud on "Rights of Goyims" compared to the "Chosen People" and their value! I do not know what kind of God that chooses people over others, based on ethnicity or tribe! It is either a false god, or the people are lieing on its behalf! Saudi Arabia is not perfect, but at least it does not steal lands, starve people to death, kill childrens in a very civilized way, or bomb a country with cluster bombs on intention to make inhabitable! The only people who are capable of such crimes are the same people who suffered in WWII. Sooner or later, you will pay the price, but it might not be you or your children but take it a lesson from history, you will lose even after 400 years!

Islam is more than a religion, but it is not a political ideology...it is a way of life! Islam governs every aspects of life and put guidelines to it, whether political, economical, social, justice, ...etc. Saudi Arabia is in no position to enforce Caliphate on others, as it does not practice it...the Goverment uses Religion as it suits its purpose for survival...similar to the use of Zionism of the Judism as a means to justify its ends! Both do not give a damned about Islam or Judasim if it conflicts with their interest...that was seen in WWII when Zionists cooperated with Nazis in atrocitites against Jews to meet their objectives, or when they bomb their own people in Iraq to drive the Jews out to Israel....these are Jews Sayings, not mine! As for public schools in Saudi Arabia, show my your booktexts please...as they are full of love of palestanians, I saw the pictures of the Israeli Kids marking the bombs to be dropped on Lebanon..or is that a conspiracy theory by Arafat? The difference between you and me is that you are blind to see your own black sheeps, and I recognize them and have logic to NOT to generalize like pigots like your type! If you want to dehumanize Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him) or Islam, please do but do it intelligentally by discussing issues or topics not just spitting filth from your mouth, unless that is all what you can do.

Thank you both, and I dare Darren or American Jewish to refute... The source of all trouble is a cancer called Israel planted by the west in the wrong place, and only solution to it is to remove that cancer! Jews are very smart, but they never been wise across history!

Great article on "Why We Cannot Rely on Moderate Muslims" http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/09/why-we-cannot-rely-on-moderate-muslims.html