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Neturei Karta: Iranians making logical claim
Neta Sela
Published: 12.12.06, 03:38
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31. Neturei Karta & the Old testatment
george Wilson ,   eureka USA   (12.12.06)
Neturei Karta has it right !!! Just read the Bible, the state of Israel was abolished by God Himself after many warnings from the prophets that were sent by Him. Finally after much patience He allowed israelites to be conquered over 2,500 years ago for their faithlessness and corruption.and ultimately dispersed to serve Him in other ways. Read the Bible and get a grip on reality.
32. Neturei Token
Serge ,   Montreal, Canada   (12.12.06)
I am so sick of this tiny nutty Neturei Karta cult showing up to every possible anti-Israel and antisemitic event to provide a fig leaf for those who hate us. Tokenism is not a legitimate policy. I think we should not refer to them as Neturei Karta. All they are guarding is tokenism. They are Neturei Token.
33. Traitors to Israel and traitors to GOD>
freedom ,   canada   (12.12.06)
Can my theory be proven wrong? Go ahead and try.
34. 31 Really. Do some more reading.
freedom ,   canada   (12.12.06)
The jewish nation and the jewish people are GODS chosen. Get used to it. If you are a believer in the new testament it gets better for Israel and the jewish nation. Israel becomes a very, very mighty power. And tell us what happens to Islam if you are a believer in the new testament. Gods word is Gods work now isnt it.
35. They should be eliminated from the Jewish People!
Keren ,   SP-now in Israel   (12.12.06)
They are no Jews;they are an anomaly. Some sick" jews" helped hitler too!
36. 31 And if you are a believer in the new testament,
freedom ,   canada   (12.12.06)
you would also know these people are liars in Gods eyes. God does plan a place for Israel, exactly where Israel is today. I love it. People like you try to dispute Gods word.
37. What did we do to Iran ?
RyanH ,   Ashdod Israel   (12.12.06)
Israel is not a neighbor of Iran. This land was never Iranian, they are not even Arab. Israel has not attacked or threatened Iran. The Arabs here are not Shiite. Even if Israel was killing 200,00 Palestinians why should they care about them any more than the hundreds of thousands of Muslims killed in Sudan, Algeria and elsewhere. Obviously NK are too stupid to ask themselves this or care about the answer. Maybe you the reader are intelligent enough to ask yourself.
38. African Slavery
Danny ,   Zion, Ethiopia   (12.12.06)
Whilst I appreciate the suffering of the jews during the Nazi holocaust, i would like to hear from talkback what we Africans should do about salvery and colonialism. All black people in the diaspora, from Brazil to USA to UK are there because of a crime agaist humanity, HUMAN SLAVERY much much more cruel and resulting in more deaths and rape than the jews' holocaust, what should Africans both at home and abroad do, REPARATIONS from those who benefited or create an African state in Europe or Asia?
39. Iranian Conferance
Daniel ,   Lod, Israel   (12.12.06)
I know Jews are funny! up to the extent to be called idiots! Never knew they are so funny! What Avigdor Lieberman has to say about these people?
40. #39
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (12.12.06)
I asked that myself in a talkback on the Lieberman piece. Must check to see the reaction
41. Don't forget that these are the same folk
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (12.12.06)
that rioted in Jerusalem against gay rights!
42. To 23
FRANKLIN ,   Paris , FRANCE   (12.12.06)
AND...WHAT FOR AN.... IRISHMAN TAKING OVER VOLCANO AND WAKIKI..??? HE TURNED JANJAWEED OR MAHORI...??? TAKING OVER ISRAEL FOR A JEW ...A NONSENSE...???
43. GOOD TIME TO BOMB IRAN.
DEBRA ,   USA   (12.12.06)
GET RID OF THESE TRAITORS TO ISRAEL PLUS ALL THE OTHER INSANE HOLOCAUST DENIERS.
44. "Haredi Jews"? THEY ARE NOT JEWS!
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45. LOTS OF INFO
LEAH ,   JLM   (12.12.06)
This is their website: http://www.nkusa.org/ Wikipedia has links, history, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_karta #Links_supporting_Neturei_Karta
46. Support # 31, Educate Nos 34 & 36
Danny ,   Zion, Ethiopia   (12.12.06)
Please allow me to support # 31 and probably educate nos 34 & 36 if they are willing to. If the justification for forming the state of Israel is the bible then lets use it and be objective. Let me be educated if am wrong but I thought the name Jew is from one of the tribes of Israel called Judah? The bible talks of the twelve tribes of Israel, not just one tribe. The bible records the breaking up of the kingdom of Israel not long after King Solomon and later the children of Israel being taken into captivity in Babylon, because of disobedience to God. Now the interesting thing which I would like to educate nos 34 & 36 is a book called the KEBRA NAGST (plliz download from internet) in which the visit of the Queen of Sheba from Ethiopia to Jerusalem (written in 1st Kings chap 10) is explained in much more detail, which visit resulted in a son called Menelek I (David), a line unbroken upto the time of H.I.M Haile Selassie I. Menelek I (David), together with the first born sons of Israel, took the ARK OF THE COVENANT to Ethiopia from that time to this day. These first born sons of Israel are what are today called the Falashas (black jews) who were secretely air lifted to Israel in operatons moses and solomon, respectively. In short the throne of GOD shifted from the Old Jerusalem to the new Jerusalem (Addis Ababa- new flower). Psalm 87 says the Lord loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. Also the book of revelation in chapters 2 and 3 talks about being beware of fake jews, who are these?
47. #37 are you stupid or just acting like one?
(12.12.06)
I think the chicken got brain bigger than yours ! :)
48. # 31---2525
plyadies7 ,   LA-USA   (12.12.06)
You haven't read all the bible my friend. after 2525 years the poeple will reunite in it's holy land. God gave that land to Mosses and his people. God said take it. King David ruled from Jeruselem remember? if your an enemy of Israel you are an enemey of God. God will bless those who bless Israel. read it, it's there.
49. Extremism is now well balanced
Hiram ,   tel aviv   (12.12.06)
I am glad to see that after all, extremism in the name of religion is now equally balanced between the Jews and the Arabs. In the same fashion Moslems have their share of extremism in the shape of Talibans,Nazislamists etc....the Jewish nation has Naturei Karta ! But what more normal..? don't we have the same ancestors ?
50. to # 38 slavery
plyadies7 ,   LA-USA   (12.12.06)
Although I feel your pain for the history of slavery of the african people but they still have the whole continent of africa to this day. As for slavery, history has it, it seems almost every nationality has been a slave of some time. depends on who was ruling at the time. Slavery goes way back in time and matter of fact still today. Depends on where you live. In the US we slave over making a buck for companies. Call it free slaves.
51. #3 Kyle
Michael ,   Haifa   (12.12.06)
what a comparison !!! it is difficult to fathom the sewer of this woman's mind, when she compares the Neturei Karta loonies with Peace Now supporters who have fought in Israel's wars, and as such are Zionists (of a different breed from the Kyle creature), who are citizens of Israel (unlike the Kyle creature) contributing to the economy and legitimately criticizing government policy within a democracy. The Kyle woman's big mouth is only equalled by her shamelesness
52. #38
thomas   (12.12.06)
since when did slavery kill more people than the holocaust?
53. Neturei Karta say jews didnt suffer persecution in exile ???
(12.12.06)
Neturei Karta have a main premise that jews should live in exile forever and that they diidnt suffer persecution and lived peaceably with their neighbours.. Thats patently RUBBISH. Jews have suffered progroms, persecution, holocaust throughout the ages .
54. holocaust deniers
fish   (12.12.06)
in Europe holocaust deniers go to jail, in Israel nobody takes a legal action against these punks, who call themselves Jews - Naturei Karta. Isn't it high time that they are brought to justice for kissing Arafat's ass, and shaking Iranian clown's hand? Shame on any Jew, who hates his own land so much, he doesn't deserve to be a Jew and Israeli, if he strips himself of his Jewish identity, he should be stripped of Israeli citizenship and rights. I fully support the demand of Liebermann - one must say an oath of allegiance to Israel, putting his hand on a Holy Book - if not pack up and leave, we''ll pay for your one-way ticket to Syria or Saudi Arabia. I'm a Christian, non-Jew who lives in Israel, and is proud to be an Israeli citizen. As a tax-payer, and father of two kids who one day will go to serve this country I can't tolerate the people, who openly deny me and my kids the right to exist .I'm infuriated when the Arabs citizens of Israel say: What can this country do for me? My answer is - what can YOU do for this country?
55. Does The Islam needs these activities ?
Atilla Karagözoğlu ,   Istanbul   (12.12.06)
I believe, NOT. It is little stupid to me. We all know, Neighter THE Christian world Nor The Islam world ACCEPT the Israel truth. I just didnt know about the RAVS. are they bad Jews ? are they good Jews ? I dont know. It is not important to me, anyway. Wheather with The Holocaust or without The Holocaust, ISRAEL IS IN MIDDLE EAST now. with the power, with the flag, with the ANGER. accept or not, they will not give it away long long time unless they dont suprice The God, wrongly. That is what I believe. WHEN I LOOK AT ISRAEL, I TRY TO SEE THE NORMAL PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. I DONT SEE THE DEADLY MACHINE GUNS. this is the way I understand them. WHEN I LOOK AT THE MIDDLE EAST MUSLIMS, I TRY TO NOT SEE THE SUICIDE BELT THINGS. I SEE NORMAL PEOPLE. this is the way I understand them. Both People want to survive. THAT IS ALL. Both Politicians are very serious. too personal. too HERO. THEY BOTH CANT CHANGE THE HISTORY ACCORDING TO THEIR DREAM. The Jew politicians are not good for Israel and Judaism. The Muslim politicians not good for their people and Islam. LET THEM TRY TO BECOME A HEROS FOR THEIR TIMES. which is impossible to me, now. Judaism and Islam are brother religions. Judaism is not easy religion. It has very hard rules. So, Islam. We dont have that much good religious Jews and Muslims in world. But, I am sure they dont hate eachother. THEY HAVE NO TIME TO TAKE THEIR HEADS FROM PRAYING AND SEE THE DEAD-LOCK OF THE WORLD. in my heart, they all failed. They are too busy with praying. BUT, WE CANT GO HEAVEN UNLESS WE DONT GIVE OUR LIVES FOR OTHERS. THE GOD HATES SELFISH BELIEVERS. Middle way is always the best way. The Christian powerfull people are not that good for the peace, also. in fact, they are much responsible for the dead-lock. they have the power. they dont use it for good reasons. THAN WE SEE THE MUSLIMS BECOME RADICALS, SO THE JEWS. Moses, Jesus and My own one were brothers in The God. Same Blood. Same Mission. Same Light. They all gone now. They all failed in fact. Their Light COULDNT MADE THE WHOLE WORLD INTO THE SAME LIGHT. We all forget the other people of world out of three religions. Japanies, Chiness......WHO WILL BRING A LIGHT TO THEM ? they are our brothers also. I want to stop here, now. This is our world. This is us. Atilla Karagözoğlu
56. neturei karta
sid ,   haifa-israel   (12.12.06)
If the Moslems would attempt to "nock " their religion they would be beheaded for sure. Any suggestions concerning this lot?
57. #56
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (12.12.06)
The next time they riot and burn in their own neighborhoods don't send the fire department?
58. Spies
Dudu ,   Ole   (12.12.06)
Doesn't Hashem Gave us a Promiss after the sin with the spies? "THOSE WHO DESPISE THE LAND OF ISRAEL WILL NEVER SEE IT" May NK never see the true rebuilt land of Eretz Yisrael for the sin they commit by talking bad about the land... They are misguided lost souls yearning not for geula but for more hardship in galut... let them life in peace but let them die and never be resurected!! There is no greater abomination for the jewish people than living outside the land of Israel!! May Hashem be with Israel Its Land and Its people!!!
59. #44 I Agree Naturei K..THEY ARE NO JEWS!!
rebab ,   Caracas, Venezuela   (12.12.06)
60. #51, Michael.
Israelit ,   Israel   (12.12.06)
a. What made you assume Kyle was a woman? b. What makes you think that if you disagree with Kyle's opinion it makes Kyle "a creature"? c. What made you assume Kyle wasn't a citizen of Israel, some of us do live abroad and it's legitimate. Not that if he/she isn't he/she looses the right to have an opinion. Too many assumptions + hatred to be taken seriously, aren't you :)?
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