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Court: Iman al-Hams death may have been prevented
Aviram Zino
Published: 07.01.07, 19:56
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1. Arabs also investigate if bombers could have been prevented?
gabriela ben ari   (01.07.07)
or is it just an Israeli Attitude
2. PALESTINIANS LIFE HAS NO VALUE
Abdul-Bari ,   Houston USA   (01.07.07)
The way Israelis treat Palestinians is ungodly and inhumane. May The Almighty God have mercy upon the oppressed people of Palestine and compensate them for their suffering at the hands of the unjust.
3. ARE THE QASSAM ROCKETS AND ISRAELI DEATHS PREVENTABLE?
THIS IS A REVERSE ,   ON THE REAL CRIMINAL   (01.07.07)
4. PREVENTABLE AT HE EXPENSE OF THE ISRAELIS
REDICULOUS ,   POLITICAL CORRECTNES   (01.07.07)
5. #2
v. n.y. ,   usa   (01.07.07)
may god have mercy on the thousands of people in sderot and northern israel and may god compensate them for their suffering at the hands of katyoushas and bombs raining daily from the killers muslim jihadists and terrorists in gaza. those katyoushas are sent by you to israel and sderot with the intent to inflict the most damage, carnage and death. if they were accurate, then you would have seen hundreds of israelis dying, homes destroyed and lives lost ....childrfen's deaths as well. i wonder what your response would have been. thankls god the katyoushas are inaccurate in their delivary.
6. This only happend because he's a Druze officer
Dani ,   Tel Aviv   (01.07.07)
The Druze are loyal to Israel. Why sour the relationship?
7. Oh, stop it already.
naftali   (01.07.07)
8. Reponding to #5
Umm Fatimah ,   Philadelphia U.S.A.   (01.07.07)
If Israelis adhered to Jewish religious law God would help them to live in peace with their neighbors. God allows Israel to be attacked because the people disobey God's laws. Many Israelis do not obey the Sabbath, some even eat pork, and these are just some of the many things Israelis do to anger God. As long as the secular-minded, irreligious people control Israel there will never be peace.
10. #8 AND WHAT DO ARABS DO AGAINST THE 'GD' OF ISRAEL?
DACON9   (01.07.07)
11. #6 Dani
Khalid   (01.08.07)
"The Druze are loyal to Israel. Why sour the relationship?" Umm how about because of the cold-blooded murder of a 12 yr-old girl?
12. Re #8. Always someone on bottom
Steve ,   USA   (01.08.07)
B"H In any society, there are those at the top and those at the bottom of moral standards. Not surpisingly, those at the bottom tend to find themselves as those at the top of "leadership". We do not know what we are doing to have such people lead us. But it is characteristic of every society on this earth that I am aware of. Every single one has those elements with vices. I say this because I am not sure that it is the "eating pork" that causes the missile attacks as claimed. The Chinese eat a lot of pork, and there are no missiles that I am aware of falling on China at this point. I am trying to point out this is evil on the side of Hamas that cannot be blamed on the pork bellies. G-d may have set guidelines as charity for us a Jews to obey. But that does not excuse unexcusable behavior of the Hamas murderers and it is quite separate from it as far as I can tell by a large number of degrees.
13. #1 Gabriella
#1 Gabriella ,   The Netherlands   (01.08.07)
Gabriella, are you asking that we believe that a suicide bomber and a group of supposedly highly trained Israeli soldiers firing on an obviously unarmed and terrified school girl are equivalent? Have you really thought about what you are proposing?
14. #5
menno ,   The Netherlands   (01.08.07)
New York, Don't you mean qassams? Quite a difference from katyushas used in Lebanon. But I guess that's just a mere detail when you're experiencing a shrill emotional outburst. Please get your facts right and then post something of value.
15. Very sad
Margaret   (01.08.07)
This attack against an unarmed teenaged girl represents a very tragic,dark episode in Israel's history. Hopefully,there will finally be some justice for Eman and her family soon.
16. to #8 + #11
Freejay ,   Israel   (01.08.07)
Mr FATIMAH, i dont think the palestinian terrorists care if they kill a secular jew or religious one. Eating pork or not going to shul on sat has nothing to do with the palestinians wanting to destroy Israel. KHALID, This girl should not of been approachig the Girit outpost dressed like a terrorist. She caused her own death by her stupidity so i would hardly say it was cold blooded murder.
17. #14
v. n.y. ,   usa   (01.08.07)
you are quite right. there is no doffernence at all. both katyoushas as well as qassams as well as siocide bombings, grenade, missiles, etc....are sent to sderot, israel with one purpose in mind....to kill innocent israelis and their children and to destroy the city. are my facts here right enough for you? i guess so. now, back to our point. isn't the intention of each qassam delivered towards israel to harm and kill as many of us as possible? since you are so very detail oriented and require the name of the exact weaponry used to terrorise our citizens and children in israel and to kill as many as possible, i indulgedyou and used the correct terminology in reference to weaponry used. can you even imagine if those QASSAMS had any accuracy? would this satisfy you? i am not having a shrill outburst as you put it. what i am having is a sense of reality which you do not have by sitting on your windmills in a field of tulips. how i would love the israelis to have the same opportunity you have right now, sitting peacefully in a field of tulips instead of dodging your so called qassams. get off the windmills buddy and come live in sderot for a day. you won't last a minute. please say something of value???? a phd in mid east affairs and a post graduate degree in comoparative religion is enough value for you? i thought so! living in israel under those very same qassam attacks are enough value for you.....keep spinning your windmill my friend because you have no right to judge unless you get your hands a bit dirty here in israel. hummm?
18. #15
v. n.y. ,   usa   (01.08.07)
yes, it is terribly sad and extremely tragic to see children caught in the line of fire. innocent standby without a fault. a young life, a precious young life. however, the palestinian parents must know and must be aware of the fact that there are border clashes and firings on both sides of the crossings. what is a little child doing so near the line of battle? where are her parents? why isn't she safe in a home? what is she doing so close to the idf soldiers dressed as she was dressed? i shudder to think that this may have been another example of how the palestinians use their own children for propaganda and for finger pointing at "israeli atrocities". was she sent there dressed the way she was because the palestinians wanted her killed by the idf? did they use her as a pawn so that they can point a finger at israeli actions? palestinians have been known, and it is extensively doccumented that they in fact do use human shields and theri own children, dead or alive, for propaganda purposes and do not place value on human lives as long as they suceed in their propaganda. maybe this particular case was an example of palestinian war tactics. i will never blame the idf for this. this was a tragic accident at most. i am convinced that no one, no israeli soldier will ever open fire on an innocent child. never! if nothing else the idf soldiers have a lot more concience than their foes, the palestinian terrorists.
19. deaths may have been prevented
Daniel ,   Israel   (01.08.07)
Deaths may have been prevented; I agree; if opposite side had to run their affairs within their boarders. This is an outright war. Why the other side army hiding amongst civilians? They are responsible for any civilian death. Why we are trying our officers and tying their hands? Tomorrow our soldiers will hesitate to hold the gun; leave aside firing it.
20. Lets dont leave them ALONE IN THE HATES
Atilla Karagözoğlu   (01.08.07)
It is good to talk about these subjects It may have been prevented or not. I dont believe anyone loves to see dead little bodies. Lets look at today. --------------------------------- No matter what we hear from both sides, we always believe , we always want to believe that ordinary people, ordinary soldiers, they are confuced, they mostly dont know what to do. They just do what they feel they have to do. They do what they been told to do. Both sides, they try to survive. Their anger is not fake. Their hate is not made-up. THE HATE is real on that grounds. If we leave both people alone there, THEY WILL NEVER MEET ON COMMEN POINT BUT HATE. So, every each human must take responsibility of Middle East problems. THIS IS ABOUT US. IT IS ABOUT US. We dont expect to hear nice words from both sides. HOW CAN THEY TALK ????????? HOW CAN THEY TALK NICE WHILE THE BLOOD COMES FROM THEIR MOUTHS. It is not fair to expect objective points from both side. THE PEOPLE OF BOTH SIDES ARE RIGHT. THEY RIGHT WHAT THEY SAY. THEY ARE RIGHT TO HAVE HATE. THEY ARE RIGHT TO KILL. ALL THEY WANT TO SURVIVE. WHEN YOU GO INTO DEEP OF THE SEA, YOU WILL TAKE DOWN WHAT EVER YOU SEE TO SURVIVE. So lets STOP to blame these both people. They have right to make mistakes. But not us. US means the people of world who is far of the hate, who is far of the bad conditions. As long as we take sides they wont have peace so do we ! THEY ARE BOTH RIGHT. THEY ARE BOTH WRONG. Lets kill THE ANTI-SEMITIZM. Lets kill THE ANTI-ISLAM. Hey !!! There is a God. and there is an other life. Lets remember. If you (the people of world) stay positive with respect and love, you will first help yourself not to them. NO ONE IS ASKING TO HELP THEM DIRECTLY. JUST BE A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THEM. Yes, this should be best thing to do. Lets show to both sides THE POZITIVE WISHES ARE AROUND, so the both sides wont feel that ; THEY ARE ALONE IN THE HATE.
21. Girl walking at 4 AM in direction OPPOSITE of her school
case data ,   should be read   (01.08.07)
This is one of the many facts constantly omitted from the articles on Captain R and is one of the reasons that he was, in fact, acquitted. For some extra context: that outpost had been attacked many times in the past from the location where the girl was walking. Children younger than 13 have been found carrying explosives for intended suicide bombings, such that, in the WB and Gaza, soldiers CANNOT automatically assume that all children are innocent. Sad experience (derived from the Palestinians' cynical use of their own children) has taught the soldiers that some are NOT innocent. For example, almost all of the 'innocent' underage prisoners in Israeli prisons are there because they were caught throwing Molotive cocktails and/or other explosives...
22. 4 A.M.??
Menno ,   The Netherlands   (01.08.07)
Case Date, where'd you get the idea that she was walking away from her school at 4 a.m.? I've followed this story from the beginning (as have many around the world) and have seen no mention of that. Can you document please? Also, the soldiers at the outpost say she dropped her school bag and ran for cover when they started shooting, so there was no danger of an explosion. At least one of the soldiers radioed that she was obviously a terrified school girl. And why confirm the kill when she had been shot down?
23. 13# What's your name
(01.08.07)
No, I wasn't saying or implying anything like that
24. confirming the kill video
(01.08.07)
the tape records the company commander as saying: "I and another soldier ... are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill ..." After a pause he adds: "Receive a situation report - we fired and killed her. She was wearing pants, jeans, an undershirt, a shirt. Also, she was wearing a keffiyah on her head. I also confirmed the kill. Over." http://www.voicesofpalestine.org/outrageous/13yearoldgirl.htm
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