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Baby boy killed in Gaza cross-fire
Ali Waked
Published: 26.01.07, 21:48
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31. to #17
Michael ,   Austin, TX   (01.27.07)
you know the answer as well as I do. the world won't ever realize anything...the ONLY reason they even pretend to care about palis is because Israelis are JOOOS. That's the ONLY reason. anyone else kills an arab...YAWN
32. Investigate now!!!
Natan   (01.27.07)
I demand an investigation now!!! Oh, the baby was not killed by an Israeli? Well, in that case let' move on...
33. To All
Buster ,   Australia   (01.27.07)
Come on guys, people are dieing: Yes, the pals are fanatical, even a little mad and yes, they murder, lie and cheat. But at the end of the day rejoicing over the death of a person makes us no better that them.
34. CAN ANY PALI'S TELL US WHY YOU ARE KILLING EACHOTHER ???
andrew ,   miami,fl   (01.27.07)
35. Dov 16, Reuters should be silent
Khalid   (01.27.07)
When Americans kill Americans in the streets of New York City or the slums of Compton does Reuters report it? No. But they do if Iraqis kill Americans in Iraq. This is their job.
36. Where was this baby?
Patricia ,   Waipahu,Hawaii,USA   (01.27.07)
Does anyone know where this child was when he was shot (crossfire)? I remember seeing many pictures of very young Palestinian boys in dangerous situations. On cars with men firing guns and about to enter a confrontation. Is it possible that this child was exposed to this by a parent? It would be better if this boy was in his home then it would seem more like just a tragic accident, of course, In a civil war no where is actually safe. Do any of you, that are a little more objective, have access to more information. I enjoy YNET but all we get are little capsulization of the actual event.
37. WAR CRIME! WAR CRIME! WHERE"S THE UN???
Ben Hur ,   Manhattan, USA   (01.27.07)
38. #35: USA did have something like this in the news...
Barbarian ,   Saudi Arabia   (01.27.07)
but it was a while back. Something called a civil war...
39. Where are you ?
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.27.07)
all those Israel haters ? who will you blame now ?
40. #18, You're an optimist; it's still early in the day.
AK   (01.27.07)
41. ALL VICTIMS OF HAMAS AND FATAH ARE TO BE BLESSED
Imam XIII ,   Bab-el Waters   (01.27.07)
42. Lynne (30), how can they boycott?
NL ,   Israel   (01.27.07)
Hey Lynne, I agree that both Hamas and Fatah suck, but how can they be removed by the people? Currently, these groups are the ones holding all of the cards. They have all the funds and they have most of the guns. What can the Palestinians who want to reject these two groups do to put pressure on Fatah and Hamas (without resorting to violence, that is)? Since Fatah and Hamas clearly don't seem to care about public opinion, citizens would have to do something that would actually hurt the current leadership in order to exact any real change. What type of things could they do to cause such pain? The only options are economic pain and physical pain. Since Hamas and Fatah control all of the PA funds, it's not as if they can withhold funds from the leadership. (Notice, when the int'l community tried to do that, the average Palestinian citizen was hurt, but the top dogs still had plenty of access to money). The only way that people with no access to actual government funds can hurt the economy is through a strike. However, no kind of civil strike would be productive for the unaffiliated Palestinian civilians. Firstly, the government workers are from Hamas and Fatah, so when they go on strike, it's one group trying to get back at the other. What other jobs are there that can meaningfully strike? Pretty much only doctors, and having them strike would hurt the Palestinian people far worse than the Hamas and Fatah leadership. Other than that, many Palestinians are farmers and it's pretty much impossible for them to go on strike since you can't just leave your crops for a while and expect them to be okay. If farmers did strike, they would only create a food shortage, which would hurt the average Palestinians far more than any well-connected member of the Hamas or Fatah leadership. Store owners are already having a hard time because Palestinians have been spending less, so closing down their shops would be tantamount to bankruptcy. Also, Hamas and Fatah have enough funds that they could buy supplies for their own members, at the exclusion of non-members, which would, once again hurt the average Palestinian, but not Hamas or Fatah. Barring a strike, you're pretty much only left with a citizens' coup. Not only would that not eliminate the violence, it would probably wouldn't work very well, since, as stated, Fatah and Hamas forces are better armed. An anti-Hamas-and-Fatah coup would end up getting a lot of non-Fatah-or-Hamasians killed. It would also increase the financial hardship in the region since more people would be fighting, meaning fewer people would be working. Additionally, the little money that unaffiliated Palestinians currently have would have to be spent on weaponry if they wanted to revolt against the current leadership, leaving them even less money to buy food. This seems like a horrible and counter-productive plan. Any thoughts as to other ways to oust the current bad leadership? I, personally, am drawing a complete blank and it seems that the non-affiliated Palestinians are, as well. BTW, good luck with the new university next week.
43. #42 Anti-Government Palestinians are not so helpless
Michelle T   (01.27.07)
They could refrain from violence, for one thing. Do not participate in it, do not advocate it. They could teach their children differently. Also they have relatives and connections abroad who could speak for them. Nothing like this happens. Even those living abroad love and support their corrupt Palestinian government.
44. Not so simple to speak out while unarmed in Gaza
NL ,   Israel   (01.27.07)
While you do have a valid point about Palestinians abroad not speaking out enough for negotiation and against the current leadership, I'm not sure you're correct about the non-affiliated Palestinians in Gaza and W Bank themselves. In the past, people in these areas who advocated peace and negotiation were shot to death by gunmen (needless to say without trial) and left in the street as 'examples'.
45. Hi Noa!! :)
Lynne   (01.27.07)
Ah Noa!! you're right.. i agree with you although this leaves me pessimistic,, I guess strikes coming from inside Palestine are very difficult to achieve and will cause only further chaos.. but on the other hand the International community could boycott both sides and I don't mean economic-wise but also diplomatic-wise.. a good start would be by both parties disarming their militias.. by detaining anyone caught with a gun on the streets.. by collecting all light weapons from unauthorized individuals..that is if the leaders of the two parties really wish to stop the internal conflict... maybe curfew in Gaza would be a good idea.. that's all I could think of for the moment.. it's getting late now and tommorow I'm going leaving.. thanks for remembering and thanks for wishing me good luck :) .. I hope things are going fine with you too.. I'm sorry I didn't reply to your post from another article but I was very busy last week.. Have a goodnight/day..
46. Hey Lynne! Problem of enforcement, I think
NL ,   Israel   (01.28.07)
The curfew, guns on streets idea could work if there were one leadership-affiliated force trying to deal with insurgent militias. The problem is that Fatah and Hamas are the ones with the guns on the streets and, concurrently, Fatah and Hamas are the ones who don't really want to get their gunmen out of the street/collect the arms, if for no other reason than concern that the other side won't get their gunmen off the streets/collect the weapons. I mean, right now it seems that the formal SECURITY FORCES affiliated with Hamas and Fatah - aka the ones who are technically allowed to have weapons - are the ones doing most of the shooting. You're right. It does inspire pessimism as to a positive outcome. The problem with the int'l community financially boycotting both sides is, I think, that the leadership will continue sponging off current funds and thus, there will be even fewer funds to give to the average population. There needs to be a mechanism set up where international donors give money directly to the avg Palestinians, not through any sort of gov't organization, neither Hamas nor Fatah. But that's obviously a mechanism that would take a lot of time to build. I apologize in advance if I'm MIA for the next few weeks. I have finals starting soon, so I have some serious dates planned with my textbooks. One the other hand, I am a master procrastinator, so, you never know. I may be around even more than normal. :)
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