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Aaron Klein, WND
Published: 31.01.07, 15:10
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31. To #27: Yom Kippur war lesson
Franck ,   Montreal, Canada   (02.01.07)
The real lesson of this war is that the Left is unable to run a country at war and to make the right decisions. Should Golda have ordered a pre-emptive attack on Arab forces that this war would have looks like the Six Days War. Same story with the last Lebanon war, the Left screwed the war, however, the first war of Lebanon was a military success because the Likud was in charge. The fact is that Leftist appeasement self-hating mindset is unable to confront seriously an ennemy who only understands ruthless strength.
32. sadat
tttoni ,   sabme   (02.01.07)
wwhat happend to him? iwas akid when he was killed. i was confused as to why .was he a traiter to the assasinators? thats the lesson of the 73 war nothing else. he befreinded a jew forbiden by mahammed.
33. to 26 Hope this DR doesn't mean Doctor
(02.01.07)
otherwise it would be disaster to have an ignorant doctor ....loool.... you have no idea what i am talking about not because it's not true but because you are ignorant .... i speake about what i saw with my eyes and you speake about what you heard from your school friends .... go boy read a bit more and ask older people . looool
34. #33, nameless coward!
DR ,   Florida, USA   (02.01.07)
Delusional people like you only make it worse for your people. You provide false hope, flase ideaoligies and false promises to your children. Israel will never ever lose to your people simply because we have a greater cause to fight for. Your culture of lies and hate will never succeed at anything and this is why you are so bitter and mad at Irsrael. History is in the books, and your account of how things happened is biased , I'm sure. Who will believe you over a history book??? Agian, lay off the Hashish!!!
35. ISRAEL ONLY FIGHTS BACK
Ima Bleever ,   Anytown USA   (02.01.07)
The pity-partying Arabs would have the world believe that Israelis sit around and say, "Man, I need some excitement in my life. Let's go bomb something Arabic." But the truth is more the other way around. Here is my take on how an Arab family sits around the house: The father, having just beaten his wife for God's wind blowing her veil upwards, sits reading about how their favorite hate-spewing cleric demands the destruction of Israel. The mother, her cheek still sore, wonders why it wasn't enough for Allah that he cursed her with monthly bleeding, pain and agonizing child birth. If you are commanded to honor your mother, why doesn't Allah? The daughter, seeing her mothing, retreats to the safety of her new iPod MP3 player where she secretly listens to a western band, but not too loudly. The son, a chip off the old paternal block, says: "Dad, I'm bored. Can I go kill some of our Arab brothers and blame it on them belonging to the OTHER sect of Islam?" To which the father lovingly reproves: "Why? There's a perfectly good family of Jews just down the street." You Arabs and Persians are failures because you willingly swallow lies. Indeed, your god orders you to lie and deceive and to break treaties. So you have become accustomed to hearing lies. Telling them is a natural next step. You also fail because while Israelis teach their kids love and how to balance a checkbook, you teach hate and how to balance an AK-47.
36. ISRAEL ONLY FIGHTS BACK - part2
Ima Bleever ,   Anytown USA   (02.01.07)
Israel does not pray to a God who orders them to exterminate Muslims. YOU lying hypocrites pray to a god who orders the deaths of Jews (and Christians) wherever you find them and by any means. This order was given 1400 years before Israel ever existed. So Israel is not the reason you hate Jews. This so-called god of yours cannot seem to figure out how to treat women well, free slaves, grow crops, or get along with anybody else he supposedly created. He hates people he says he built. But it never dawns on him to simply stop building more. He commands his followers also to blaspheme my God (who IS LOVE) and to place the words "God neither begets nor is begotten" on every one of his mosques. Everything about Allah is combative. Allah's followers fight each other. They fight anyone who dares speak the truth. Yet the truth SHOULD be the most precious gift of any real god!!! The truth should set you free. Muhammed calls Jesus Christ a prophet but commands you not to read his holy words. Then why the HELL did Allah pick that Jesus guy as a prophet? That guy is MY GUY... MY SAVIOUR... JESUS. I often wish Israel would just bomb the crap out of Arabia and Persia and get it over with. ALL AMERICANS often wish this, especially the ones who had to flee Islamic lands to avoid persecution there. But our God orders us to preserve His creation... including YOU. The Jews also doubt Jesus although their scriptures teach a SUFFERING MESSIAH; yet all anyone ever had to do was ASK GOD ABOUT JESUS. But both Jew and Muslim are too proud. It's that simple. So is peace. So is truth. So is love. God is Love. If your god is not loving to ALL his creation then he is not really god. Is he? Again I say, just ask God. And this time... listen.
37. to 34 Keep on dreaming
(02.01.07)
you speake about Israel from Florida ... ha ha .. what you know about the area here ... nothing you are just a poor ignorant you have no idea about what's going on ... you are all cheating your children with lies all the time .... i say what i saw not what i read in Disny books like you ... http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1997/Moulton.htm yes the history will show the world the big lie you lived in it .... Israel lost and will lose alot because of people like you ... look arund you to see the hate to Israel how it's growing up around the world to find out that you were living in big lie made by your first zionists started with the lie of the great Israel from the Nile till El Forat till the safty Israel which they fall one after one .... no great Israel ... no even safty Israel .... keep on dreaming and lie to your children ... but better come and stay here in the area insted of shouting from Florida like wild dog and causing troubels for us here ... take your finger away from here we know what we need .... and Hashish is not that danger like your Coc which you take all the time to keep on believing your lies . looool
38. Why would an Arab hate lies?
Ima Bleever ,   Anytown USA   (02.01.07)
In America, I have actually met HAPPY Arabs and Persians. I patiently read your comments on how we swallow lies. The whole time I thought: but it is YOUR god who ORDERS lies. You should, therefore, adore lies. MY GOD, who also happens to be the GOD OF ISRAEL, does not like lies, deception or liars. That sort of nonsense smacks too much of a guy He once let get too close to him, a guy named Lucifer, "the father of all lies." If Allah wants you to lie, yet Lucifer is the father of all lies.......... ......... are you blind? And again, for what seems like the millionth time, Israel is only 60 years old. Arab hatred for Jews is 3500 years old, dating back to Ishmael getting kicked out of the tent while his younger brother Israel got to stay. It's just petty jealousy. Get over it, oh sons of Hagar. The order to kill Jews and Christians is 1400 years old. Why? There was no Israel then. If your god Allah has such a problem with Jews, why does he keep making more of them?
39. #37
texas   (02.01.07)
nameless person!!! by your post here and your usage of english, which is atrocious, i imagine you are uneducated. not only uneducated, but a complete ignorant arab who would like no matter what the truth may be to hold on to fantasies of glory and winning of your past. the fact remains that during the yom kipur war of 1973, the arab armies have attacked israel on the HOLLIEST DAY OF JEWISH HISTORY WHERE MOST WERE IN SYNAGOGUES PRAYING. no one was on streets, no businesses open, no offices open and most soldiers were home enjoying the holiday with their family. israel was caught unprepared because of this holiday!!!! and pity, still, you were not quite able to win no matter what surprises you showed us. during the 6 days war, most of you guys left your shoes in the sinai desert so that you can escape easily and run like cowards back to egypt or wherever your armies came from. during 1973, your armies got a little better, but still lacked the motivation to go all the way and sacrifice their lives. the israeli scrambled last minute running out of houses of worship and homes to get into uniform and fight you loosers. and still, you suffered defeat. by defeat, i mean, you gained no land and didn't improve your lot. so, where did you win? we are still here. strong and surviving despite you all. you are completely misinformed if you believe the world hates israel. most are behind us just thinking what will happen to our planet should people like you rule by the sword. god help us. israel despite all you arab killers managed to survive and become the model example of a super advanced country in the middle east, unlike your countries still living in the dark ages with poverty and zero progress in any walk of life. please take note....the idf and all israelis will never go away no matter how many of you attack us or wish us ill. do you know why? the answer is because jews and israelis love life and will always defend what is theirs with all their heart. while you arabs, are motivated by hate, and hate never wins wars. deep inside you are not cowards, but an army that has no cause to fight. they don't fight for survival and existance and this is the difference between our army and yours. you have nothing to fight for, but we do and we plan to win each time no matter how many poor soldiers die in the process. this is life in israel and we are used to it thanks to you arabs. if the nazis didn't destroy us and they were the elite of society, do you think you arab backwards can manage? doubt it. no one is your friend. russia nad china will sell you like lambs. you can't count on them for your wars. however, the modern world and the usa is on our side and no matter what you can never win.
40. To 39
(02.02.07)
you are not better that your friend from Florida both are fanatic ignorants wants only to believe what makes them comfortable ... keep on dreaming you too ... staying in the USA juging what's going on in the middle east ... you didn't learn from your president and his ignorance about the area and now all of you in trouble in the area and can not go out ... it's typical you ... long tounge and nose up and ingorants ... and don't speake about education because i can chalange you here to make our posts in diffrent 5 languages and show me how many you can .... looool ... i don't wast more time with people like you but enough for me to laugh when i read how poor minds you have and i can imagin what kind of future waiting for Israel because of people like you .... Israel would live much better in the area without your help but this doesn't suit your colonial goals with your American zionists loby .... hope the Israelians find out this as early as possible that we can all have peace without your help but i am sure you will never leave Israel in peace .... God help us Arabs and Israelians to get rid of people like you . ... by the way read the diary of Mr. Henery Kisenger to know the truth about the Yom Kibour's war don't depend on Donald's Duck magazins to get your information ... you got it boy .
41. #40
v n.y. ,   israel/boston   (02.02.07)
are you really planning on teaching the "truth about israel" to an israeli and a professor emeritus of history in an ivy league university in the boston area? nice try! so now you don't hate israelis, only americans? saying that if it wasn't for america both our nations will be at peace? sorry, but unfiortunately not in the arab nations mentality to be at peace with anyone. they can hardly be at peace with themselves. if you talk about kissinger who has been quite a frequent lecturer at my university, you are blind. dr. kissinger is a rabid and avid israeli supporter and a devout practicing jew. he wrote his book as warning, not as fact. you claim the 73 war as arab vistory over israel. what kissinger claims in his book is a warning to israel that arab armies now are more capable of harming idf goals. harming and winning are two different things. we were harmed. yes, the war cost lives. however, we we didn't lose and you never won that war as your leaders claimed in 1973. many of your leaders had to tell the arab masses of imagined and delusional arab victories so as to rile them and continue the hate amongst the masses. also, to deflect their complete lack of capability to deliver a decisive blow to israel and the idf. facts on the ground are just that. facts! you may not like the outcome of the war. you may feel embarassed to loose yet again. you may feel anger and spite, jealousy and hate. but it still doesn't change the facts on the ground. wishful thinking will get you nowhere except deeper into your mindset of hate. i suggest you take a break and go polish your english. if indeed you speak 5 languages, which is higly doubtful, i would imagine that your english would have been 100 times better than what's in your post. speaking 5 languages, by the way, doesn't make a person smarter or more knowledgeable.....just someone who can believe arab lies in 5 different languages. that is all. by the way, my post is writeen now from israel. we are azll in a tel aviv cafe enjoying the outdoors. tomorrow it's off to jerusalem and the wall. shalom and may your soul be cleansed of the unnecessary hate you experience daily. you'll feel much better. believe me!
42. just a small remark to 41
(02.02.07)
You chosen the wrong part of Henery Kissinger's diary ... read the part of the early morning screaming call from Golda Maeir to Kissinger screaming in panic and call for help because the Egyptians are near .... and read about the space bridge the Americans made for 24 hours sending weapons and soldiers to help Israel ... Sadat stoped the war when he found that he fight against America not Israel .... don't try to fake the history for your favore the Oktober's war they study it in the military acadimies around the world specialy the falling of Parlev line which they called it the most strong defence line in the history .... come on guy i know it's hard for you to axept this facts but it is facts .... and about my english i think is much better than any other language you can ... write me at least one sentence with my language ... don't you feel a shame when i discuss an issue with your language and you the poor one can not even write one sentence with my language ... i know how you feel now but it's you who started to speake about education ... can you post such report with forign language like i do ... not all history professors are ohnest when they teach history because each one teach or what they force him to teach or what suit's him to teach but not the facts like it has to be ... bye the way i am siting now in much nicer place more than you cân imagin in one of the most nice cities in the world on it's lake from my nice house and by the way tomorow and after tomorrow is off too here .... gusse where ....loool ... have a nice weekend and take care of your self .... high blood pressure is not healthy .... Shalom ... oh i forgot ... my soul is much more clean than you can imagin ... i have no hate inside me like most of you have and that's why i am laughing all the time .... keep smileing
43. #42
v n.y. ,   israel/boston   (02.02.07)
unlike the "history" taught in islamic countries, where most texts don't even cover the going ons of ww2 and the shoah or the true historical facts prior to 1948 and thereafter in israel. unlike what the muslims teach their young in schools....revisionist history and lop sided historical "facts" with bombastic arab illusionary "victories against the enemy", creating a comfort zone for the masses to go on believing in false "dreams" and continue the hate and "struggle" (islam) against an imaginary enemy! such as the west, israel and the slew of modern advanced societies around the world.... unlike what the arab media programs show on tv such as bood libel movies during ramadan and insane interview programs regarding jews, judaism, america and the west.....all paranoia based with mostly "conspiratorial tones".... unlike your media, tv, newspapers and radio, sensoring unfavorable news, sensoring texts and anti islamic books, calling for fatwas on the "infidels" that dare question islam and its merit to society and create a forum for hate and intollerance....in front of whole families which sit home watching tv during ramadan.... unlike your governments, political institutions and regime dictators who CONTROL YOUR MEDIA, MINDS AND CULTURAL WORLD and keep the masses under tight supervision in terms of what is known from the outside world. unlike your historical texts and academic materials that twist, turn and make it absolute, facts that are known to the entire world, but not to muslim arabs in most mid east countries.... we, the sane world, the modern world that has all the freedom and opportunities to question, read the truth, judge, argue, conclude rationally the historical truth of events. we the modern advanced world whose government intitutions are not united to religion (separation of church and state). we the modern world who has come out of the 12th century to go on and develope a prosperous history with every major advancement known to men. we are the ones that are not BLIND. it is you that are uninformed and blind, sir. your religion and regime has kept you and your like in the dark ages in terms of knowledge. it controls each and every aspect of your life, morally and socially....to protect you from the evils of modernism and the west.....it is in fact to protect you from knowledge and questioning the untruths and lies they would like you to believe, and this is how they can CONTROL you. i assumeyou are now sitting in a FREE country, assuming it is not muslim. use the freedom advantage you have been given to expand your knowledge and mental capacity to look at facts in history, to question what you have been fed for years and to learn that world opinion and the history that most of us, free people, have been taught is based not on wishful thinking, but on hard core events that are undisputed in the history of man. any historian may twists the factual events in history and analyze them to suit his personal agenda. however, in all progressive countries which have the freedom to refute, analyze, argue pro and con, your kind of historical facts is called plagarism. in the arab countries, unfortunately, it is viewed as absolute truth and never to be questioned or refuted in thought and deed. most historian dealing with religion and historic events have an accountability to the truth using footnotes and extensive reaseach that is not biased, and in the free world all such historical texts are read, reviewed and analyzed because most contain the pro and con of both sides, the truth and the lies of both sides. open minds, given intellectual freedom can question this material. however, it is always two sided.
44. #42 quick points to mention
v n.y. ,   israel/boston   (02.02.07)
i would like to respectfuly ask you some questions. 1. why in your opinion is there a fatwah (death sentence) on salman rushdi by the muslim community and the islamic republic of iran? 2. why are arab muslim professors afraid to publish their thoughts and opinions on islam and arabic/israeli history? i don't see any jew declaring a fatwah on the head of noam schomsky! or on any muslim arab professor in the usa teaching his vision of history and islam or talking against the usa or israel, or no fatwah by israelis on the haredim israeli jews that left to participate in the bogus iranian holocaust conference, and safely returned to israel? from what i observed, their throats are still intact! 3. why are so many arab muslim professors kicked out of universities in arab lands for speaking out? we find many of them running to the usa to teach here....teach the truth! not arab fantasy history. 4. why did so very many intelligent professionals run into exhile and seeked assylum in europe and the usa during the muslim ayatollah regime? is it because they so enjoyed freedom of speech in iran? is it because they were safe and comfortable being free thinkers in a society dangerously hostile and backwards and fearful of the truth? 4. why are christian arabs condemned and harrassed by muslim neighbors everywhere in arabic countries? (lebanon civil war) 5. why does islamic law not permit commentaries and questioning of the kuran? in a democracy and free thinking culture and country, questioning the law and religion is encouraged and permitted without fear of being murdered or hanged. 6. why can't jews live in saudi arabia and other arab countries and practice their religion there, while arabs do live in israel and have the freedom to practice islam? 7. why was the iranian student body activist against the regime through demonstration and protests imprisoned, tortured and almost killed before escaping to the usa? was it because iran law supports freedom od speech and modern thought? 8. why are there thousands of "political prisoners" rotting and languishing in arab prisons just for making their opinions known? do you see us imprisoning and torturing americans, muslims and christian europeans for opinions against the usa? england?, etc...? muslims, as it seems, are free to speak in london, israel (even in the knesset where they hold seats as ministers), and other nations, shouting" we love hitler", "death to israel, the usa and england" right under police noses. are they imprisoned? are their heads chopped off? are they expelled from those respective countries? i don't think so! wonder what would happen if same shouting occured in islamic countries. if you can understand and answer these questions, you are on your way to understanding why posts such as yours are full of ignorance and lack any veracity and knowledge.
45. # 39 & 41
observer   (02.02.07)
in 1973, egypt and syria fought israel to restore part of their own lands. Attacking the israelis In the syrian Golan or the Egypjavascript: save() Submittian Sinai was not illegitimate after 6 years of exhausion of all peaceful means. If God had been pleased by the unjustly grapping of others' land by force, what would the point have been in watching the holliest of the holy !
46. #39
observer   (02.02.07)
(if the nazis didn't destroy us and they were the elite of society, do you think you arab backwards can manage? doubt it. ) No more words can expose the complex psychology than these few words. Arabs kept saying in so many occasions that they are willing to accept them living among us. Whether they are exploiting their fears or are practicing their convention of superiority, the fact is still the same: they do not like to hold our extended hands.
47. #39
observer   (02.02.07)
(if the nazis didn't destroy us and they were the elite of society, do you think you arab backwards can manage? doubt it. ) No more words can expose the complex psychology than these few words. Arabs kept saying in so many occasions that they are willing to accept them living among us. Whether they are exploiting their fears or are practicing their convention of superiority, the fact is still the same: they do not like to hold our extended hands.
48. # 45 fix your cut and paste program.
(02.27.07)
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