Jewish Scene  Rabbi Levi Brackman
More than one lover
Rabbi Levi Brackman
Published: 09.02.07, 08:35
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31. to #13---100% correct
jan ,   usa   (02.10.07)
My friend, you are 100% correct in what you said. I don't think anyone could have said it better than that. Shalom my friend, Shalom
32. True Love
Rabbi Sha'ul   (02.10.07)
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self -seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.
33. men and women are not the same
yoni   (02.11.07)
men and women are not the same creatures what so ever. besides for the obvious physical differences there are crucial distinctions between the two. women are naturally relationship people and know how to love in general. men on the other hand have big egos and know how to solve problems. we are generlaly more practical and like to get to the point where women beat around the bush and talk small stuff all the time. it is inherent in our nature that WE ARE NOT THE SAME. i hate it when people say we are because we aren't!! if a man can have more than one wife that does not imply a women can have more than one husband. according to torah it is much more severe for a woman to cheat on her husband than a man to cheat on his wife. this is because when a man cheats he usually cheats superficially while a woman is more connected and it is usually with deep intentions. this "defiles" the woman and renders her unfit for her husband ever again. she has crossed a red line that penetrates too deep to repair. MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME!!!!
34. JewishPolygamy.com
JewishPolygamy.com ,   Cypress Texas   (02.11.07)
B"H Rabbinicly supervised http://Pilegesh.org blog , http://PilegeshPersonals.com http://JewishPolygamyPersonals.com study what the Torah and Rabbis actually teach on the subject minus Christian influenced propaganda and learn how you can have a pilegesh or a second wife in a 100% kosher and legal way.
35. Yoni
YONI ,   blue meanie   (02.11.07)
With thoughts like yours, I pity the woman you are married to (or the woman you marry) Some of what you said is true, about how a woman is intimate with a man with deep intentions. However, because of this, when a man cheats on his wife, even if he is doing it "superficially," his wife is feeling the betrayal very deeply for the very reasons you said. So think again, Yoni. Does Torah permit you to hurt a woman so deeply? Cheating on your wife defiles her. It's not her behavior but YOURS. Wake up and smell the coffee.
36. If THIS is Judaism Please count me out
Jewish Canadian ,   Toronto Canada   (02.12.07)
I have long suspected that Orhodox Judaism was degenerating into some weird cult-like status.If this rabbi's obeservations on polygamy really DO represent Jewish thought then perhaps it is time to give Christianity another look.A religion that condones polygamy in the 21st century is unworthy and,frankly,sick.
37. Bigamy with ARABS
Jackson thomas ,   Ottawa   (02.14.07)
Bigamy should be legalized and encouraged in Israel as a way of overcoming the divide between Jews and Palestinians. Every Jewish man should have two wifes--one Jewish, one palestinian Arab. This way prejudices could be broken down, and the true and complete RECONCILIATION OF THE PEOPLES begin.
38. Viagra?
Yishai ben Avraham ,   Colorado   (02.16.07)
39. Personal choice
Jewish Woman ,   Israel   (02.18.07)
If polygamy is permitted by Torah. If the ban has ended. If all parties are in agreement and can work out the problems resulting from the goyish value systems we have been exposed to - then why not? If it is halachically OK and people consent - there is nothing wrong with it. What IS wrong is that above the age of 30 there is a whole generation of unwed, good Jewish women and a lack of good, Jewish single men. Those women cannot have children and our numbers are falling. Women also have needs - and it is better not to end up with a generation of frustrated spinsters:-) I would happily be a second wife (or be a first wife and ignore or accept) rather than either a) marry some of the men I have dated b) be totally alone. To have a halachically sanctioned, respectful second marriage or serious relationship is a very different thing to promiscuity.
40. #36 Jewish Canadian
Hannah ,   Sydney Australia   (03.09.07)
What are worried about. This is great healthy discussion & Reb Brackman isnt suggesting everyone does it! The great thing about Orthodox Judaism is that it does discuss everything. He is one man with one opinion, many others will have a different one but since we arent like Catholics with a Pope, no one is going to suddenly change things. There are good reasons for and against bigamy. But perhaps it needs to be up to the individual like many decisions. If we are grown ups, we should be legally able to decide whether it works for us or not. Maybe it would stop all the affairs these days, maybe not. But healthy debate about it is a good thing just as it is about many different subjects.
41. Marriage was not the original intent
Daniel ,   New York, USA   (03.20.07)
Several people have commented that if God wanted men to have more than one wife, then God would not have created just a single wife for Adam. This neglects both the plain reading and the Rabbinic understanding of the story of the creation of human beings. "Adam" was a composite being, hermaphroditic, containing both male and female characteristics, very much similar to the concept of the original human found in Aristophanes' speech in Plato's Symposium. That is what Genesis tells us God created on the sixth day, a single being that was male and female. That is what God originally intended. But this original creation was flawed. Adam was lonely. God then needed to act to correct this. God did not create a new being to keep Adam company -- one wife for one man. God separated Adam's tzela' -- a "side," not a rib -- and thereby split the original Adam into two beings, Adam and Chavah (In Plato's version, Zeus splits the original humans to weaken them and prevent them from challenging the gods; in the Jewish version, God splits the original human out of love and compassion, to strengthen them). Marriage, then, -- the whole man cleaving to his wife becoming one flesh thing -- was not God's original plan but a compromise, a fix for a flaw in creation.
42. Polygyny
Shavaht ,   Chicago   (08.10.10)
Examine Nature, Universal is established by God. Men have seed that must be planted separately, women are soil which is where seed is planted, you don't plant apples, oranges, grapes, greens and corn in the same spot, one right after another - it is confusion! Planting Apple seeds in different locations gives you an apple tree in those places. Thats why Polygyny vs everything else is permissable. Universal Law makes it so that this kind of violation can not occur. Thats why women out number men, the reverse would be out of order. People are not being true to their nature. Now think if your version of Adam and Eve is correct, Eve Only had three sons and one husband. Where did all the other people come from. Return of truth!
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