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Anti-Semitism very much alive, says Livni
Lilach Shoval
Published: 11.02.07, 18:36
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31. And you know what?
marya ,   sacramento, USA   (02.12.07)
Israel must stop giving in to the bullies that are their neighbors. When the Jew hater sees the groveling Jew, it emboldens them. Israel needs to be strong and firmly Jewish, then they will get respect. When the Arab and anti- semite see the capitulating Jew it's like a shark smelling blood --and right now, with Olmert in office, it's a hemorrhagic feeding frenzy!
32. Land and Assets-the Huge REWARD for Mass MURDER of Jews
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (02.12.07)
Land & Assets-the Huge REWARD for Mass MURDER of Jews The response of the U.S. EU UN and Israeli leaders to barbarism, Muslim human bomb killer attacks and mass murder of Jews is to reward the Palestinian Authority jihadist society with dollars, dollars, dollars - MORE DOLLARS - weapons - training the terrorists ruthless ethnic Jew cleansing of Gaza and north Samaria Jews Jewish Land and Assets of Gaza the promise of MORE LAND the Jewish ancestral homeland of Judea and Samaria more vicious ethnic Jew cleansing The PA jihadist society, PA/PLO/Hamas, Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Syria, Iran, et al will NEVER stop their war against innocent humanity the huge rewards they receive for their cruelty, atrocities and mass murders are much too great.
33. to#7...because most of them are zionists,DA (end)
Fadi ,   birut   (02.12.07)
34. #11 kareem
jerome ,   basalt, co   (02.12.07)
if that is true then muslims should all move to mecca U fool! why did they change there direction? CONFUSED?!?!?!
35. # 21 Simoaning Mohammy man
jerome ,   basalt, co   (02.12.07)
why should the Jews join arabs to explain themselves to the the world, this would be taking a giant turn backwards to say the least! Besides Jews don't like to blow their selfs up!
36. Boaring subject
Mark Williams ,   USA   (02.12.07)
You the jews ,please find another ,more interesting gum to chew it .we are feed up with your complain about antisimitism.
37. #9 Blablabla
Edithann ,   USA   (02.12.07)
I didn't think there were any of you left. When Zionists said all Jews were Zioinists..well, what could a non Jew think?? I'm not Jewish, but I feel the same way..and I've been called anti-semitic..does that mean I'm not anymore?
38. to #28. Safegaurd the Jews people in Israel and arround the
Simon Mohammed ,   Falls Church VA USA   (02.12.07)
word is a really a true subject, and i am with you and will talk the way i always beleived in. but i think it is not about Israel been strong or wake "from the corner you do see thing" I think is about a combined factor. 1- been military strong, and you are 2- been economicaly strong and you almost there 3- be able to face the human been arround the word in normal life with no fear, you will be more accepted then hated. 4- work with other looking forward to the better future for all, not just the jews people, or the arab only or the muslim only or the christrian only or other people who beleive in some thing different. But it is not gonna happened the way it used to be before, and i do beleive that with your actual Gov and leaders you are stepping forward and more faster. Good Luck
39. The Word ANTI-SEMITISM Lost ITS
1.5 BILLION mUSLIMS   (02.12.07)
Usefulness , last 60 Years Zionist were using this word to Black mail people around the world, Now when any Jew use that word People loughed at him/her so Please make us favor ( Israel Fristers) , do not live for the past , look forward and stop using that word u wanna make people feel Guilty some thing their Granfather did which they do not have nothing to do with.
40. Livni wants to expel jews from their homes. Even the....
j ,   jerusalem, israel   (02.12.07)
Even the "anti-semites" in Europe aren't doing that. Looks like the chief anti-semite is sitting as Foreign Minister of Israel.
41. to # 29 Sam, you do make sens and been realistic
Simon Mohammed ,   Falls Church VA, USA   (02.12.07)
I can't speack in the name of every single one, and i can't make it a rule or generalize my opinion toward a specific people. I do beleive that togother a lot could be done. How to make it I am working on stating my opinion. i don't have other mean or way. I am a human with limitted thinking. Thank you again Mr. Sam
42. to # 35, because I think booth Arab and jew are victim
Simon Mohammed ,   Falls Church, VA USA   (02.12.07)
And Hitler wanted to exterminate the jews then the Arab. he didn't succed, more then half of the jew people made it, and most of the Arab made it. But the trick is a politic of hate was installed between 2 victim people. Mr Jerome do you have other enemy then the Arab/muslim maybe the Jews too???????????????? Please respond to me
43. Kareem (#24) History, Not Legend
Paqid 16 Netzarim ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (02.12.07)
If you'll check history instead of your clerics' fables, you'll discover that Muhammad adopted a pagan (Hindu Vedic, notice your octaganol shapes, circumambulations, etc.) temple in which he found over 360 gods; primarily the moon-good, Hubal (notice the crescent in your symbolism?), which then became your kaaba in Mecca. Before 622 C.E., the "kaaba" was an idolatrous pagan temple -- like the Arabs who worshipped in it. There is NO documentation of any kind of proto-Islam before Mohammed. The ONLY documentation is from the Jewish Bible -- which declares that those who presume to change, defy or reject Torah are false prophets of Satan. So if you reject the Jewish Bible there is NO basis for your claimed relation to Avraham. If, on the other hand, you accept the Jewish Bible then it declares that Islam, Mohammed and your Quran are false. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
44. Israel's policy is contributing to anti-Semitism
Dan Gilaadi ,   Tel Aviv   (02.12.07)
Why Israel get such bad leaders. firstly, just like disastrous Oslo itself which started because of the need to buy the Arab vote (when Peres, against the law then, sent Beilin to Arafat to ask him to lean on Israeli Arabs to vote for labor and in return promised that labor will look favorably on a [second] 'Palestinian State" which for years was against the Israeli consensus, and similarly in every stage, such as Olso II which would not have passed in the Knesset without the Israeli Arab vote); recall that even though the Arab do not do military service, and all Arab parties MPs are explicitly disloyal to the concept of a Jewish state and in fact encourage the other side, they still vote in the national level, which is totally undemocratic, and secondly, the absence of the regional election system where many voters vote for each single MP as in the UK, which allows in Israel for corrupt leaders and MKs to be elected, essentially by a decision of one or few bribed persons; these two reasons are the major causes that an alien will be convinced that Israel's leaders since 1992 are working for the interests of the other side. Just observe the facts from 1992, when Israel itself revived a dying PLO, gave it weapon and logistic base (e.g. many expensive army bases) in the heart of the nation so that they can better kill Jews, gave the PLO international respectability and campaigned for large sums of money to be given to the PLO and PA (which often ended in terror and corruption), gave the PA the physical platform and media facilities from which to perpetuate the conflict by horrific propaganda and education of the next generations, and in the same time leaned on all the major Israeli media outlets so that they will hide this propaganda from the Israeli public, and even went thus far as blocking Israel's previous MFA Hasbara (PR) which was used for decades until 1992, in particular they did not allow Israeli diplomats on public TVs and Radios to refute the repeated "occupation" allegation and to invoke international law in particular with regards to the settlements, worse, the Israeli leaders even began to circulate themselves the Arab lies, e.g. the minister of Foreign Affairs himself repeated that Arab lie that pre-1967 Israel is already 78% of "Palestine" whereas it is 78% of fifth of Palestine. Many such falsifications of objective historical and legal facts are the direct causes of loss of Jewish life , the deterioration of Israel's image, and, worse of all, the causes of the loss of Israelis and Jews' belief in the justice of their cause, which was the main goal, i.e. to develop a [false] sense of guilt and shame in the Israeli and Jewish population.
45. to sam usa
maha ,   jerusalem   (02.12.07)
the best care of the god that he replaced the son with a sheep to be killed // sam evry one can lie in the history .but kuran is not a history .god never lie ..god give his care to all the creatures that deserve it .. sure all the prophits deserve god care /// i read the kuran as iam a moslem and araby .iam very good in my language .. i believe the one is ismail who was replaced by a sheep .but sure issac is the other son and a prophit his father is a prophit his son jacob is a prophit and juseph the grandson is the last prophit from the family .. but sure muhammad who is the last prophit in the history is the descending son of ismail ..this is god will if you like it or not ,believe it or not it is upon to you
46. 2 Seculars in US (29 & 41): This is the Middle East. Helloo!
Paqid 16 Netzarim ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (02.12.07)
You two seculars may very well make peace with each other over a beer at a BBQ in Virginia, New Jersey, Texas or Massachusetts. There's lots of room to separate the two of you to practice what you like. But I doubt you can even do it in Dearborn. Furthermore, though it will take longer due to the sheer size and greater population, the US will follow the UK pattern. So, please get realistic and realize that this isn't New York or LA. Stop projecting your secularist US naïveté into the extremist caldron of the Middle East - where BOTH of you are regarded as apostates to your respective faiths. We have too many naïve secular Leftists here already. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
47. YOU CANT FIGHT ANTISEMATISM COS YOU CANT FIGHT JEALOUSY!!!
AVRAHAM ,   JERUSALEM   (02.12.07)
THE GENTILES ARE JEALOUS THAT GOD CHOSE ONLY US AND NEVER THEM.
48. What to do? First, Get Your Head On Straight
Paqid 16 Netzarim ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (02.12.07)
Whatever axe a particular person may insist on grinding, no effort can be effective when the definitions are muddled and the objectives, accordingly, are confused. Clear logical definitions more readily suggest effective solutions. There are significant differences between anti-Semitism, misojudaism and anti-Zionism; and opposing arguments specific to each require different responses to be effective. Anti-Semitism means bias against Semites. Use of this term invites Arabs to pop the bubble and make the Jewish or Israeli position a laugher simply by pointing out that they, as Semites themselves, certainly cannot reasonably be considered as anti-Semites. Anti-Zionism means bias against the primarily-secular Zionists who are trying to anchor a western-style secular state and call it Jewish based on ethnic culture and racism (birth status). Even that is a hypocrisy since they have brought in hoards of goyim to be part of their "Jewish" vision. Anti-Zionist arguments are oriented around false land claims, hypocrisy, corruption and racism, Further, even many Jews argue anti-Zionist positions. Before 1948 anti-Zionism didn't even exist. Judeophobic means fear of Jews. Who fears Jews? I've never heard of anybody who fears Jews! This term is irrelevant and needs no further discussion. Misojudaism (or misojudaic) means hatred of Judaism; against the religion of Torah and Halakhah. Jews were hated because of the refusal of the religion of Torah and Halakhah to concede supersession and disappear. This is the basis of the long history of persecutions of Jews and the only correct term to use. Secular Zionists have always worked very hard to deliberately blur anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism (sic) because they know full well that that secular Zionism has no reasonable response to anti-Zionist arguments. "Religious Zionists" fall right into the secular Zionists' trap. For example, I'm an Orthodox Jew who believes, and insists, that Orthodox Jews are the only people indigenous to the Holy Land but I refuse to identify with "Zionists" because most of them are secular and that confuses the issues with the rest of the world. It confuses the issues with Muslims in particular; and even among Jews, both here and in the tephutzah (dispersion; wake up - there is no galut = exile). Allowing secular Zionists to blur the contradiction of secular Zionism with Judaism means that a plethora of valid arguments validating Judaism become invalidated by counter-arguments against secular Zionism; confusion that works in favor of secular Zionists but against religious Jews. Even Christians should immediately recognize that the Holy Land is promised to Biblical Jews, not secular Zionists. Christians could make a huge difference by giving assistance and funding to pro-Israel moderate and logical Orthodox organizations, not secular Zionists. For Jews, the distinction - havdalah - between profane Zionism and Torah Judaism must be maintained in order for valid arguments confirming Torah to be effective and not sabotaged by irrelevant anti-Zionist arguments. Hang the secular Zionists out to dry and defend their own arguments. What Torah Jews must do is stick to defending Torah, Halakhah and its implications. That means maintaining havdalah from secular Zionism and focus on countering misojudaism. Defending secular Zionism is wrong, hopeless and doomed. Defending against misojudaism, by contrast, presents the opportunity to vanquish our enemies. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
49. anti-semitism
sas ,   israel   (02.12.07)
Dear Mrs. Livni, And what is your ministry doing to help solve the problem?????? You send an "ambassador" to India to help those that are traveling???? Is that the job of the foreign ministry???? Mrs. Livni - wale up and realize that you are not capable of running the show. Go home and stay home.
50. lack of unity between Jews your downfall
m   (02.12.07)
United you stand devided you fall. There is no ideology uniting you as a people. There must be a turning back to your roots.Scripture states " when there is a turning back to Yahweh the veil will be taken away from your eyes.' And I believe one of the first steps is to start reading that wonderful book of the covenant. because 'faith comes from hearing'
51. It's weaknes like Livni's that cause Jew hate
malcolm   (02.12.07)
When you back down instead of following through, you lose all respect and open yourself up for attack. But Livni is so FULL OF HERSELF she can't see the results of her failed appeasement experiments.
52. #21 In answer to your comment, cousin
Righteous Zionist ,   Israel   (02.12.07)
Firstly, I was not aware that Hitler was interested in killing all the Arabs. If he was, then he was a bigger monster than we knew, if that is possible. Secondly, we Jews have been trying to join our Arab cousins ever since the Jewish state was conceived, but our Arab cousins seem uninterested in living with us in peace and harmony. Total rejection of the State of Israel is the cause of our woes - yours and ours
53. Maha
SAM ,   USA   (02.12.07)
Maha, you seem to be very nice. Re-read the Koran. Like I said, I never read the Koran, but I understand it does not contradict the scriptures. I will now buy an English Koran just to see. If the Koran contradicts the Bible....well then we need to re-examine what is going on. The bible is the truth. That is all there is to know. I believe you are wrongly interpreting the Koran. It was Issac on the alter. Ishmail was sent into the desert with his mother....and survived due to God's grace.
54. Sam 53
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (02.13.07)
Hi Sam. Maha is right, God ordered Abraham to sacrifice Ishmail as a sign of his belief and loyalty; and it was also Ishmail (Ismaeel) whom Hajar (Hagar) carried to and fro across the desert in search of water until Allah declared that the spring of Zamzam burst through. Im not sure what the Torah and the Bible say about this but Id be interested to know. And it's also interesting to know that in the Koraan the Kaaba was actually first built by Abraham: And (remember) when ibrahim (Abraham) and (his son) Ismail (Ishmael) were raising the foundations of the House (the Kabah at Makkah), (saying), "Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us. Verily! You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knower." ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #127)
55. #18 roger & #37 edithann
david ,   NYC USA   (02.14.07)
Yes edithann, there are a bunch of us out there, and believe me not a few, the thing is after 59 years of existence, the state of israel hasnt existed for a single year without wars with its neighbors, i am ashamed of the murders committed in the name of the jewish people by Israel and i swore i would never visit again after i met "my people" and saw how arrogant and inhumane they are, some of them find no shame in calling the arabs animals not worth of human rights, it is disgusting and that is what the zionist mind wants, yes i wouldnt hesitate a second if the US government comes out with a law to stop pumping money into israel, 5 billion dollars a year, spent on killing other people, maybe then will they learn they are not better than the rest of us humans, and start talking peace, i am a jew, and i'm an american, and damn proud of it, just like my fellow christian and all religious citizens, and israel and zionism dont represent me
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