Contact, please all possible pro-Israeli groups, not only Jewish but as well Christian organizations for Israel to boost Israeli heartland to become inhabited by Israelis. I'm a Finnish Christian for Israel and have a look at a good site for Israel: http://www.geocities.com/aboaev

is mainly directed to the middle-class majority. Who would guarantee their investment of their life-time savings in "disputed land" ? let alone occupied one !

Investment in places like the Golan, Malleh Adumim, Gush Etzion and Ariel are worthwhile doing as it makes it much harder for any weak politician to give away but the small settlemnts are not worth investment at this stage because its almost defainte that longer term its only the big settlement blocks that Israel will get to keep. If there are foriegn investors they can say to the government we have an interest in the territory your planning to hand over to arabs here was want to have a vote over its future. Foreign investors should also buy homes in E Jerusalem to strenghen the jewish hold over the city even if some pathetic weak politican like Olmert or Barak decides they want to divide the city if there are alot of jews living there or owning property then it increases the jewish influence.

Well US Jews sure would like to leave the USA should Bush and his clique stay in power. How many of them voted against the present adminstration? 75% is that correct?

More people moving to occipied West Bank means the colonisation can go on and expand. Of course these new settlers need protection of even more soldiers, and the living condition will be worse för the palestinians. Let me ask, do Israel recognize the palestininas right to exist in West Bank. Or are Israel just going to see that it is pure horror living in the West Bank as an "arab", and wishing them away, if not next year maybe in 50 years?

Nobody dares to say it, but Herzl's utopia for the oppressed Diaspora is not working out as advertised. The idea of concentrating the world's Jews in a tiny, theocratic Jewish State in the heart of hostile territory makes little if any sense in the age of WMD. American Christians and American Jews should be extending an invitation to the Diasora to come to America, rather than ecncouraging and enabling the Diaspora to pursue apartheid and Jim Crow "solutions" to the indigenous Arab "problem" in Palestine. Assimilation beats annihilation. The Diaspora's best chance for survival may be through dispersal, not through concentration. Think about it. As an American taxpayer, I resent the governments of the USA and of Israel wasting my money to establish any theocracy - Jewish theocracy included. Islamic Republics, Jewish States, Christian Nations etc. are all dangerous anachronisms in the 21st Century. Pluralism and tolerance is the way of the future; xenophobia and supremacist views are throwbacks to an earlier age - an age of brutality, savagery and inhumanity. As victims of the Holocaust, it is difficult for me to understand how the Jews could morph from victims to perpetrators so quickly and so completely. Gaza City is starting to resemble the Warsaw ghetto. Where is the highly-touted Jewish compassion that we Americans often hear about? With an official Israeli policy of disproportionate response to violence, Jewish compassion is something of an oxymoron. It's not an eye for an eye; it's more like ten eyes for every eye. This policy insures eternal conflict, is that the official goal? American war profiteers and Israeli war-mongerers are leading both countries down the road to perdition. Sadly, Herzl's ill-conceived experiment is a dismal failure and it is high time to pull the plug on this lofty, but flawed idea. Israel is arguably the most dangerous place on the planet for a Jew. Herzl's vision had fatal blind spots which condemned the "Jewish Homeland" social experiment to inevitable failure. Go ahead, call me an anti-Semite if you must, but inviting the Diaspora to resettle here as my neighbors, friends and fellow citizens is not a typical suggestion from an anti-Semite. Encouraging American Jews to pack up and make Aliyah is something that neo-confederate David Duke and bigoted, self-serving Christian preachers, like Rev. Pat Robertson, and Rev. Jerry Falwell et al., are all calling for. Guys like these would love to see an America that is "Juden Frei". The old paradigm of dominance and submission have failed. New, bold and fresh ideas and pragmatic approaches to settling the conflict are what is needed today - the alternative may be Armageddon.

"Resistance"? No, it's called terrorism what you are for. Azza, Yehuda and Shomron are parts of Israeli soil, it's not Arab soil. As simple as that.

who is "palestinian", if muslim or arabs want s they have wright go to 23 muslim country.Please forget about Israel.Jewish people can and will stay in Israel without them.

Wealthy US Jews should put up some money to buy homes for the Arab occupiers of Israel to relocate to Jordon. A nice settlement with running water and good Islamic schools could attract many Arabs to cross the border and make a life in their real homeland.

Not the "West Bank", See, the Arabs dont even have a name for the place. It is Israel. Get used to it.

"Your investment is insured, protected and 100 percent legal." Really? 100% Seems like a little less than that, maybe. Actually, find one law on the books anywhere in any country that makes this type of theft legal. But who's counting? Also, what's all this about "the deep freeze which has taken over construction in the West Bank"? Isn't the West Bank the fastest growing part of Israel, yet again? There will be a deep freeze on West Bank land theft and apartheid when there's a deep freeze in hell.

Keep up the good work. Hoprfully Jews will outnumber Palestinians & this will ensure that the West Bank is Israel forever. Occupied land !! NEVER.... IT IS A PART OF ISRAEL & Jjews should live there always & forever.

I am a muslim but a human before everything. I am so happy to see your ideas on this forum. Dialog, respect and open communication is the way to go in the 21st century. Idea of domination failed miserably. Idea of respect and dialog will be the hero and the winner in the 21st century. We try to promote this here in NJ among our fellow friends muslim christian and jew alike. Please keep telling these ideas to everyone you know. If you allow, I will copy and post your ideas to my discussion boards.

This shows the true will of the Jewish people. They do not want a two state solution, they want it all. The Israeli politicians only speak of a two state solution because of international pressure. After seeing the comments on this site from Israeli's, it is clear to me they do not want peace, like they lead people to believe in the American media.

Jews just like Palestinians want to preserve their identity. Who are you to tell them to assimilate into American society. I would suggest that all Americans assimilate into Chinese and Indian societies and return the land to the native Americans.

and you do not sound like an "anti-semite' . Besides that name calling and heckling has started to lose its sting, as it seems many jews try to slander anyone with that heckle that critisizes israel.

Israel is arguably the most dangerous place on the planet for a Jew.

Thank you, for the kind words. Yes, feel free to cut/paste my post and include it in your discussion boards, weblog or whatever. I am flattered. I maintain a weblog too. Here is my URL: http://new-york-loner.livejournal.com/ It is comforting to know that there are other "cooler heads" out there. Please visit my blog. My fear is that the USA is slowly but surely descending, from secular democracy into Judeo- Christian theocracy. The Christian-right has hijacked the Republican Party and as a result, US foreign policy has been geared towards prophecy fulfillment, you know, Chosen People - Promised Land. Uncle Sam is now engaged in the business of restoring ancient theocratic kingdoms - the Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves. I support the One-State Solution - the Bi-National State. Partitioning Palestine was a huge mistake. We need to go back to square one. "Partition" and "apartheid" share the common root word. The time for restitution, rapprochement and reconciliation is at hand. Jews and Arabs are Semitic cousins, choosing one side over the other is anti-Semitic by definition, isn't it? An even-handed approach is, in my opinion, the only way for the US to proceed.

there is a lovely line of orange clothing, which, unless you buy in Maale Adumim or Ariel, you will need for the next evacuation.

an extremist. We are not a theocracy and do not want to dominate anybody. But we, as Jews, are a nation - not only a religion. The expression of our nationality is Zionism. The land is the land of Israel, our language is Hebrew. Its all there. We politely decline your invitation to assimilate, but instead will stay here and work tirelessly for peace and compromise with our arab neighbors.

Like the Communist Manifesto, your words seem senisible and look good on paper but would be impossibly unpragmatic in practice. History has shown that Utopias only exist in the minds of the men who long for them, not in reality. Nice try, though.

EVERYONE ELSE IS AN OCCUPIER!

Andy, your nickname and your articulate use of the English language leads me to surmise that English may be your native tongue. It sounds like your recent ancestors did assimilate into a non-Hebrew culture. Have you rejected your actual birthright (American citizenship?), in exchange for a two-thousand -year-old contested claim? You must be addicted to that "opiate of the masses". A grown man cannot easily return to his mother's womb; re-establishing ancient homelands, for dispersed ethnic groups is similarly, problematic. Imagine this, if you will - what if the world's Roman Catholics suddenly decided to return to Rome, learn to speak and read Latin, evict the native Italians, by force of arms and then herd the Italians into camps? Isn't this analogous to the Jewish Diaspora returning to Palestine as a Zionist State? The homeland restoration idea is, with all due respect, quite ludicrous. And dangerous. It was T. Herzl who had the utopian vision, I'm no utopian. Herzl penned a manifesto too, "Der Judenstaat"; like "Das Kapital" and "Mein Kampf", Herzl's manifesto, in the minds of the believers, looked good on paper. Thank you for including my humble post here, on Ynet talkback, in your list of pertinent manifestos. Marx, Lenin, Schicklegruber, Herzl and now new_york_loner. All that I need now is a band of loyal followers, lawyers, guns and money!

How do you compare apartheid to partition? If Scotland chooses to break away from the United Kingdom would that be an act of apartheid? Was it apartheid because the muslims of India decided that they wanted an indipendent state rather then being part of a united India? You support a single state idea what if the Israeli public is against becoming a single state to satisfy the demands of the arabs? Would you suggest America invade Israel so you can have regime change and force Israel to go down the binational route? The US dont have a mandate over Israel the way the British did before 1948 so its not for them, the UN, arabs or anybody else to decide Israels future Israel today is an INDIPENDENT state and the only people who have a right to say if they want it to stay JEWISH state or a binational one is the Israeli public and nobody else anwhere in the world. Partition would have been the right decision in 1948 if the arabs had said accepted the idea .. the jews wanted a state and arabs wanted a state the problem was the arabs wanted their state to include the jewish one as well so chose to go to war in an attempt to destroy Israel so that way the arabs could take it for themselves. It also doesnt matter weather or not partition was a mistake thats the reality today and the majority of Israelis want to keep it that way. The fact that jews and arabs are semitc cousins is irelivent, a Mexican living in the US is the same gentic material as a Mexican living in Mexico but that doesnt mean that the US and Mexico have to become a single country.

Theoretical arguments still have no basis in practical reality, at least not in the present circumstances. Your analogy of the world's Roman Catholics is utterly ridiculous, as Roman Catholicism was not started by an indigenous group of people who happened to chronicle their experience in the Holy Land which is written in the Bible, as in the case of the Jews. If there had been no Holocaust, progroms, anti-semitic lies, etc., then there would be no need for a claim to a national homeland for oppressed Jewish people. Why is it fair that Arabs should stake claim to the entire Middle East and Jews be denied a right to a national identity? Your arguments, though well expressed, are merely intellectual fantasies. Comparing Herzl's writing to Mein Kampf shows everyone where your sympathies lie. A very unfortunate comparison, to say the least, that says more about you than even you realize.

Both apartheid and partition share a common element - ethno-centrism. Race-based and/or faith-based nationalism has a supremacist ring to it. Pluralism, tolerance, minority representation, multi-culturalism and secular governance are key elements of a more progressive approach to human development. I'm sorry to have to say it, but Zionism, in contrast, represents a crude throwback - a return to more primitive values. Can't we all just get along?