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Olmert agrees to Turkish supervision in Jerusalem
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Published: 15.02.07, 14:29
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1. Supervision
dan   (02.15.07)
I think both sides should respect and we should stand up for all the things they the muslims do wrong as well on the temple mount as its out holy site too.
2. Olmert - Your Soul Will Pay
threat hunter ,   eisham, israel   (02.15.07)
Your Excellency Prime Minister Olmert, You have shown by your actions and weakness, that you are no better at protecting The Temple Mount than a cloud of sulfur. Mr. Olmert, you have given the Arabs the right to build a new minaret on our Temple Mount -- the first such construction to be done in over 6 centuries! That begs the question -- why would you reward people who do not even recognize you and want you and all of us Israelis dead and outside of our own homeland? Furthermore, you allow them to hide that criminal act by this Mugrabi nonsense. You allow those same Israel-hating Muslim fanatics to riot at the Temple Mount, without any significant consequences. Shame on you! Well at least you know what to ask forgiveness for on Yom Kippur. Messieurs Olmert and Peretz: your work as leaders of this country, are detrimental to the State of Israel. In fact, the whole Israeli government is detrimental to Israel. Do us all a favor: Resign with whatever dignity you have left. Go live in your fancy houses and stay out of the public eye. You've done more damage than you can undo. It is time to reform the Israeli governmental system: Time to make our leaders accountable. 120 seats should represent 120 districts in Israel, so that each local representative is accountable to his/her voters. It is time for a new way in Israel. I am certainly not the only one who knows this. Twenty years after I detailed such an idea in writing, the honorable MK Natan Sharansky proposed the same idea in his book about the case for democracy; a book which even US President George W Bush managed to read, and to comprehend. Representative Democracy is the still best way forward for the whole world, not just Israel and our Arab neighbors. Representative Democracy or bust! In Zion, T.H.
3. Muslims have SOME Nerve demanding respect
Esther ,   Ofarim, Israel   (02.15.07)
No telling how much damage they did to the Jewish Holy sites, with their unchecked construction and wanton destruction of Jewish historical artifacts.
4. Turkish supervision commite will consist of Jews &Freemasons
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (02.15.07)
Be sure any Turkish supervision commite to visit Jarusalem digging will be teamed up from Zionist Jews and Zionist Freemason who will report digging was very useful!!!
5. Spineless!
Shiloh ,   Israel   (02.15.07)
By haveing a supervisor you then admit to error! Again and again the Israeli gov't backs down to a bunch of preschool children. I have never seen such a bunch of spineless 'leaders' in my life. I hope there are elections soon to get rid of these people.
6. Jews who know their torah will not step on it....
bentham ,   singapore   (02.15.07)
...forbidden zone of the Holy of Holies.
7. treat hunter
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.15.07)
before accusing Ehud Olmert , look at what Rabbi Amar has said regarding this works on the Temple mount .
8. Please think Israeli, PLEASE THINK !
bentham ,   singapore   (02.15.07)
from the fourteen century there has been a tension between the Turkish Ottomans and the beduin Arabs over the Temple Mount. The muslims created a shariah law of legal control " the Waqf ", and such control is still there even now while Jerusalem is ruled by Israelis.And Olmert is allowing the Turks for inspection of the Temple MOunt ? Why? Because Olmert sold the Jewish Nation to the aliens.May this betrayal visit him and his generation for ever.This I say,this I say !
9. Shiloh
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.15.07)
Look at Rabbi Amar's declaration , and he is not a self hating Jewish leftist .
10. Olmert should change strategy
Brod ,   USA   (02.15.07)
Olmert should stop visiting Islamist countries as all of them are united in Islamist-Jihadism. This is a menace not only to Israel but to all non-Islamist countries. It is none of the business of Turkey to be infringing in Israel's sovereignty.
11. oversee works ! Turkish supervision ???
Atilla Karagözoğlu ,   Istanbul   (02.15.07)
do you know how many countries have protection by our soldiers in world, now ? Do you know that we were todays America for LONG LONG TIMES ? so please, lets not get hurt if we are chosen to build PEACE BRIDGES ! SOME DAY ALL WOLRD WILL NEED TURKISH PROTECTION. do not play with our feelings. WE GOT LOYAL BLOOD. BUT TOO MUCH PEOPLE IN TURKEY, LETS SEPERATE WHO IS WHO, WHO DOES WHAT ? So, go ahead make Turks angry !!!! go ahead. Europe is an old man. The US cant go more than a few 100 years !!! gues who will come back :) So, go ahead make Turks angry !!!! go ahead. LOVE & PEACE Note: Ynet, come on Brother, find some other news, I hate you today :)
12. TO CHARLES #7
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (02.15.07)
I have read your talkbacks over time and know your hatred towards anything to do with religious jews. For you to start defending and quoting a rabbi could be a sign of tsuvah. Although i sense it is more so because it is a opinoin more to your liking. It is important to respect a rabbi's opinion,but there many opinons and intrepetations of halachah among the rabbi's . Maybey it is time for you and others to admitt that in essence the moslims are already in control of this land. They know it, because of our lack of faith and timidity in posessing what is ours. There is going to be a time were we will have no choice but to live according the rules set down at sinaii.
13. To number 3, would you stop. What Jewish holy sites??
Palestinain   (02.15.07)
Name one Jewish Holy site on the Temple mount that the Waqf Destroyed...? What is that building name? specificy its Long Latitude so that every body can see it on Google earth?? Are the buildings [Dome of the Rock + Congregation building of al-Aqsa] within al-Aqsa mosque Jewish? What Jewish artificats there that has been destoryed by the Waqf? Nothing! Simply! Whatever was on the Temple mount was destoryed by the Romans. When Jerusalem fell to muslim control, there was nothing on the Temple mount. It was a deserted area trashed by the Romans. It is muslims who revived that area again because of its connection to the Prophets of Allah David, Solomon, Jacob, Jesus, and Abraham all of whom who were mentioned in the Quran, or in fact the Quran allocated much of its text talking about their endeavors peace be upon all of them! Al-Aqsa mosque site is the second place on earth at which prostration to God was Allowed. This was 40 years after Abraham built the Kaabah in Mecca... This site predates the birth of the Prophet Muhammad. www.alaqsamosque.info
14. IMPEACH OLMERT!!!!!!
RobertK ,   Jerusalem   (02.15.07)
total submission to Muslim pressure! Abrogation of Israeli sovereignty! Granting credence to a campaign of lies and violent intimidation! Compromising with fanaticism and hatred! Get him out of the PM's office now, send him to pasture somewhere. Israeli people--wake up, stop voting for idiots!!!
15. GO BACK TO TURKEY AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
j ,   jerusalem, israel   (02.15.07)
16. who is SELLERS
(02.15.07)
"...Because Olmert sold the Jewish Nation to the aliens..." Our Bentham --------------------- I am getting sick. everyone is claiming that their own ones sells. everyone selling everyone selling who is the buyer, anyway ? no one is happy with his management. Does anyone know good Mental Instution around which has nice looking Dr. Ladies and no charge of staying in the hospital :) Bentham, I though you are a peace maker ! I see you dont give a help for the subject of the news !!! I am noting this, brother :( Atilla Karagözoğlu
17. Sensible idea
Cy ,   Reading, Berks   (02.15.07)
I just cant believe some of this utter tripe in some of the talkbacks. No idea of how to reach out, how to find constructive solutions to problems, something at least Olmert with his Turkish counterpart are trying to do. Engage your minds to find constructive solutions not spew out rhetoric and drivel.
18. re: Chief Rabbi Amar
threat hunter ,   eisham, israel   (02.15.07)
To those of you who point to the words of Chief Rabbi Amar (that no Jew, save for our security forces, should be allowed on the Temple Mount): Let this be a reminder to you that: a) The Chief Rabbis are appointed according to their sects (Ashkenazi and Sepharadi), and appointed by the corrupt political system which I am suggesting needs to be changed -- to make our leaders Accountable! b) Chief Rabbi Amar is hardly a man of great dignity. His own family is filled with people who use violence to further their goals. Just last year, he had to be aided out of a rather shameful criminal investigation about him and his family. He got the cover up he needed, and he still reeks of the odious nature of the crimes his family committed. One of his own sons is a common criminal, well known to the police. His other esteemed family members were guilty of kidnapping, tying up, threatening, and viciously attacking a young religious man for the 'crime' of having heartfelt emotions for one of the Rabbi's daughters. And after they were 'done' with him, they dumped him off in the street, bleeding and scared for his life, and warned against reporting to the police, "or else" the Rabbi's family would 'finish the job'. O, how noble is your Rabbi Amar, Charles?! c) Merely having a title of Chief Rabbi does not mean anything. He may as well be the Deputy Chief Matza Baker. His title does not entitle him to make binding statements about which of us can ascend to the Temple Mount. All it means is he's a rabbi who studied and played politics well enough to move up the chain until he got the big funny hat. Yipee. I can make a nice hat too, you know. And my opinions of Judaism and Hebrew Laws are just as valid as his and any other great rabbi living today. If you don't believe me, ask a rabbi! None of us alive knew Abraham in person. None of us were there in person at Mount Sinai. None of us can claim to know what Moses or King David or King Solomon really experienced. None of us is a biblical judge or prophet. We are merely living stewards of an ancient people, and it is our responsibility to EVOLVE as well as to maintain the best of the traditions we have, just as we discard the worst of them (sacrifices, oppression of women, ownership of concubines and other slaves, etc. etc.). Anyone who studied Jewish and Hebrew history must know this, or go back to school before opening their uneducated mouths. d) If it is in fact a religious crime for common Jews to ascend to the Temple Mount, then it is more than certainly a crime for goyim (Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Bhuddist, whatever) to do the same. Therefore, either NO ONE should be allowed on the Temple Mount, OR EVERYONE should be allowed. I have personally gone to the Temple Mount many times in my life, and I will not stop merely because some political lackey says so. And if any of you do stop just because of some flunkie's dictates, well then that serves you right. So before you go about declaring that Rabbi Amar is some kind of holier-than-thou human being, please refer to the facts first. Olmert is committing a terrible crime against the Hebrew people. It is our responsibility as citizens of this parliamentary democracy, to protest, and demand a change for the better. "If I Should Forget Thee, O Jerusalem ..." With Love, -- T.H.
19. David
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.15.07)
No hatred , no sign of tschuva . You are wrong two times . I hate the BEHAVIOUR of some "religious" people , not the religious as a whole . There are many TRUE religious who deserve respect , they also respect other people , seculars as i am . I don't see that the muslims are in control of my country , it's still , and i hope for eternity , a State for the Jews , for all the Jews , and not ruled only by religious laws , as you have in muslim states .
20. Robert K
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.15.07)
Look a Rabbi Amar's declaration regarding the works on the temple mount .
21. Palestinian # 13
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.15.07)
From 1948 to 1967 the temple mount was unther Jordanian control . It's the third "holy" site for the Muslims , you agree ? The King of Saudi Arabia is a good Muslim , you agree ? how many times did he visit this "holy" site ? you don't know ? i'll tell you : he did not visit this third "holy" muslim site . So this site is probably not so "holy" for you , as the Western wall is for the Jews .
22. To number 13, Be Honest
Louis Barr ,   Chashmonaim, Israel   (02.15.07)
Do you believe yourself. What happened when the arabs/muslims were in Jerusalem before 1967 and they destroyed and desecrated Holy Places, including cemeteries, and forbade Jewish entry? What about Joseph's Tomb or any other place that falls into the hands of the arabs/muslims? What would happen if God forbid the situation was reversed, is there any question that Jews would be banned and the Area desecrated? BTW the whole point of archeological digs is to find artifacts under the surface - the point of the Romans is of no relevance.
23. The Haram a Sharif was just a Mashad ( a shrine)
bentham ,   singapore   (02.15.07)
....for the muslims and strictly speaking not a mosque as often called today.However credit to Caliph Omar and Add al Malik, they both had great respect to the Temple Mount. Omar restored the site used as a rubbish dump.Omar forced the patriach to crawl on foot and knees through the refuse to punish for insulting the holi sites of other religions. Omar 's islamic concience cleaned the detritus with his own hands, something the jews and xtians of that era failed badly.Omar built a large retangular wooden building. In 691 Abd al - Malik erected the Dome of the Rock or the Qubbat al0- Sakhra.Subject to these presevations the Temple is oly a Mashad, a shrine for pilgrims, as such I dont know how the temple is a Mosque. No one can deny that Mekkah is sole ownership of the Muslims and Islam BUT the Temple is a Temple built by David and he is a jew not Arab or Muslim but a Jew. So what claim is there valid for the MUslims. Be IT Known !
24. Olmert should resign long time ago!
Ana ,   USA   (02.15.07)
But he will not, he will sell his mother, wife ,kids and for sure country, to stay. He is an as--ole of a demagogue.
25. to Charles #20
RobertK ,   Jerusalem   (02.15.07)
Rabbi Amar has a strict interpretation about Jews being permitted on the Mount and this is all that matters to him. This is a question for Jews to work out among themselves and there are varying rabbinic opinions. What Olmert is doing is importing Muslim Turks--from a country where Mein Kampf is a bestseller--to oversee how Jews run their own capital city and most sacred site. If we are not sovereign over these places and instead have to import Muslims to supervise what we do, the Zionist enterprise has failed and we should start begging other countries to take us in.
26. Atilla Crazy Man # 16 Do us a favour...
bentham ,   singapore   (02.15.07)
could the turks put Olmert in the Instituite of Mental Health in Turkey :) We give Olmert for free we dont even want to sell, him. Please admit Olmert in the hospital there ! :) bentham singapore .
27. your real ally,in the area
a.c ,   Atlanta, U.S.A   (02.15.07)
ytou stupid idiot the only friend you have in the middle east is the Turks they happend to be Moslums all those centures Turks were in the side of jews from 1492to most resent days when you get every morning have cup or two Turkish coffee and come to your sences.
28. The Turks have experience supervising holy sites.
Uziel   (02.15.07)
As soon as they took over the Church of Hagya Sophia they desecrated it turning it to a mosque..
29. Esau ben Yitzhak Ehud Olmert
H.H.M ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (02.15.07)
Esau ben Yitzhak Ehud Olmert apparently forgot that what is referred to his Ankara visit as Muslim holy places contains i.e. Stone where Abraham offered his son Yitzhak to God, further the wailing wall, the Temple area, on Mount Moriah and Temple Mountain. These places are accepted as Holy places in historical order by Jews and Muslims each claims his location. - And a Turkish mission was agreed upon to visit these places as Muslim representative to ascertain that they are neither destroy or afflicted. Mr. Olmert being already in Turkey visit/ pray in Istanbul/ Synagogue at Sabataai Zwi! The old proverb “God protect me from my friends, from my enemies I can protect myself.” Will you claim another victory upon return?
30. Read your historymy dear jewish brother
A.C ,   Atlanta, U.S.A   (02.15.07)
Dear reader if it was n` for Turkey there wouldn`t being state of Israel today you back and read your history books you are so norrow minded. The way it has been in the Ottoman years future of Israel very much related to its relations with Turkey if U.S.A is ucle Turkey is your big brother dont ever forget that...
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