Opinion  Sever Plocker
Because we are Jews
Sever Plocker
Published: 19.02.07, 10:47
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31. Marlene; If you hate Israel so much why are you obssessed?
Daisy ,   USA   (02.20.07)
Israel is a great country and haters like you should just shut up and stop defending Arab terrorist Jew-killers!
32. Stalin' Jews
Alexander Sharon ,   Calgary, Canada   (02.20.07)
Incredible. Sever Plocker writes about Stalin's Jews, wiythout even mentioning a one word about the Polish (non-Jewish), the real founders of Soviet terror organizaton VChK -GPU-NKWD. Feliks Dzierzynski, Vyacheslav Menzynski, Dzirrzynski deputy and the second Chief of GPU, Stanislaw Kosior (Ukraine Party Chief and organizer of the Famine), Stanislav Redens (Stalin's brother - in -law, NKVD Chief in Ukraine, Stanislav Messing, organizer and first chief of Gulag. Shame on you, Sewek!
33. (31) Daisy, hating Jews gives people like Marlene...
Mike ,   Israel   (02.20.07)
a reason to wake up in the morning. Nobody here pays her any mind, she's a joke.
34. Amen!
Bluto ,   Cincinnati, U.S.A.   (02.20.07)
35. Marlene , no thanks needed
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.20.07)
criticising Israel is allowed [ no thanks needed ] Even here in Israel every one does not agree with some political decisions , and this criticism can come from every side of the political spectrum . With this we have no problem , this is the democratic way . What you are doing , is looking with a biaised eye , looking only from one side , criticising only Israel . You take lies for a granted thrut , a community is a town , and two cases are also many towns . You know about what i'm talking . You are unbalanced in your critics . Comparing Israel's behaviour towards it's Arab population to the behaviour from nazi germany towards the Jewish people and telling it's the same , shows only that your feeling towards Jews is the same as this of those who assassinated six million of My people . My people , the Jewish people . Not yours anymore .
36. Critical Canadians
Vitaliy, Esq. ,   Brooklyn, NY   (02.20.07)
Cr. Canadian, Let's say you considered someone else to be anti-Canadian and you lived in US. Would you donate money for them to come and speak? Would you not try to voice your opinion that the person is anti-Canadian? Would you roll over and let them walk all over you? Critical you are, a thinker you ain't!
37. Yuo R right about antisemitism but wrong about ariel toaf
dr Yosef Menachem ,   Italy   (02.20.07)
or better: ariel "toevah" I read the book in ialian and it is a simplle gossip that accuses the jews of massacrating christian kids and using their blood in different rituals!!! This book could have been written only by an "italian jew", or better by the son of the chief Raby of the italian cattoli-comunist jewish community!!!!!! maybe he saw this rituals at home, cause his father was first a member of italian KKKomunist party ( under Stalin,krouschov and co...) and only secondly a jew. The jewish comunity in italy is the most cattholic-comunist of all the "jewish" communities in the Golah. no wonder that this week end in Bologna the local "Jewish" community toghether with the union of italian "jewish" communitis has greeted and gave GUSHPANKA to a congress organaized by italian leftist antisemites about " jewish and israeli identities". The goal of the congrress was to convince the italian public that israel is a racist and non democratic opressive state and that "we"(eurpeans) should get Judea- " JUDENREIN". Antisemitism has infected israel as well as many communities in the diaspora. many israelis like raya cohen and ury ben eliezer that took part at the congress in Bologna do a bettter job than christian or muslim antisemites. And prof. Ariel Toevah is only a paradigma of our degenaration.
38. i am not jewish. why does everyone thinks so.
marlene ,   new york city   (02.20.07)
39. Marlene , you wrote it
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.20.07)
You are not knowing what you write , not regarding Israel , Jews nor even about the sad bipede you are .
40. Marlene #5, I think your comparisons with Der Sturmer fail
Steve ,   USA   (02.20.07)
Juius Streicher's Der Sturmer was based on fallacious Jewish stereo-types. You may disagree with the author of "Our War Against Islam," Shlomo Engel's conclusions but the facts he cites are indisputable. Streicher did not rely on facts; only lies and distortions. You may think it Islamaphobic to remind the readers of riots following the Muhammad cartoons and the indiscriminate violence, terrorism, suicide bombings in Iraq, Israel, India, Pakistan, etc., but this does not in any way mitigate the truth and the facts. What would you have us do? Put our collective heads in the sand?
41. People like Professor Toaff give comfort to anti semites
Arthur ,   Jersey City USA   (02.20.07)
People like Toaff, Noam Chomsky, Kushner etc give comfort and credibility to anti semites. While anti semitism may the the disease of the anti semite The Jew is the one who suffers from the symptoms. When anti semites are confromted with the truth, the educated ones, trot out the apostate Jew and hides behind them. Even to th extent that they use it to prove the "jewish conspiracy" Prof Toaff showed poor judgment, no common sensse and lack of discretion as well as poor research and analysis. The harm he did is real and long lasting. His book will be cited long after the responses are forgotten. Just like good ole Jimmy Carters diatribe of hate.
42. You are in error #23
viola rogers ,   modesto, US   (02.21.07)
First I'll grant that the church has been guilty of bloodshed. Lots of it. But please, there are more things going on behind the scenes than just in front. Remember there is a spiritual battle being fought right now. You have G-d and HaSatan. Forces of good and evil. G-d said that Israel is His chosen people and would always be His people. He engraved their names on His palm. Remember? HaSatan hates G-d and will strike back at Him any way he can. So for those in the minority, who are truly evil, he manipulates and the masses who are foolish and ignorant, they blindly follow. But there are those of the church then who rose up to help Israel, and there are some now. They are willing to stand and fight with Israel and will continue to the very last. I for one will encourage not discourage.
43. It is very sad : it almost make me cry but
1.5 Billion Muslims   (02.21.07)
what is the reason , the auther did not put forward any logic reason why this hapening : by saying this thing happen to us cause we r Jew is like saying for example: you and john aproach me , u introduce me John , when i ask u who is John , instaed of explaining to me who john is if u answer John is John is taht help me to get to know the John , so auther saying they hate us cause we r Jew do not add up , the auther have to explain what cause this hate instead basing his urgement John Is John. Reality Check , world
44. I Support Isreal
Joann ,   Reynolds, USA   (02.21.07)
I am an American and a Christian. I do not believe the Jews killed Jesus. We all had a hand in it. I find it disturbing to see the anti-Semitism in our world today. I can't conceive of hating a group of people so much that they should be wiped off the face of the earth. It worries me when America and other countries tolerate the threats of Ahmadinejad. Someone has to do something or we'll end up in a BIG mess. I also think Jimmy Carter is a disgrace. He won't debate anyone on the issues he has raised in his book because he knows that he is lying and has nothing to support his argument. I have heard him described as "the president who never met a dictator he didn't like." I say that Isreal must keep defending itself. Never back down. Never give up.
45. tojoan usa
jwana ,   jerusalem   (02.21.07)
always we support the weake so tobe strong .. but the strong need no support /and israil know that there are many support it /but ithink it does not fell secure ... it is like abraham when he asked the god to show him how it make the dead alive .. god asked abraham why do you not believe .. abraham said yes i believe but my heart like more security // but you are not the god joan however you support israil // you will never increase its security // and israil is not abraham .it will not feel secure even if you make the 6 milion victims of the holocaost alive
46. #44, Thanks for your support Joann
Sarah Davidson ,   Jerusalem   (02.22.07)
47. #27, Critical Thinker, NOT!!
Mark ,   Georgia   (02.22.07)
The arrogance is yours, mr freind. Read your own talkback. CT writes:" I Also oppose some actionstaken by the Jewish Lobbies in Canada and the USA ( banning books, silencing speakers by getting their talks cancelled, threatening to withhold donations if someonethey object to comes to speak )". Reply: 1) Book banning; I don't know of any book banning please enlighten me. Maybe it is something you just made up!! 2) silencing speakers... by getting talks cancelled ; Again, what the heck are you talking about? I need specifics. Who was cancelled and on what date.? 3) withhold donations...if they object to speaker ; What you would do force them to donate to a speaker they feel doesn't serve their best interests , or even hates them? Wow your just a great guy, I'll tell you what, stay in Canada we don't want you here in the USA. You see we allow people to donate money to who they want ! I doubt any Pals give money to AIPAC. But I'm sure you are not going to rake them over the coals for that only Jews, right? Thanks have a great day Mark from Georgia
48. Self-contradiction
Rasmus Sonderriis ,   Santiago de Chile   (02.22.07)
The author is contradicting himself totally. If anti-Semites need no reason, then the veracity or falsehood of Dr. Toaff's evidence is irrelevant to the question of anti-Semitism! Yet still highly relevant to the issue of academic freedom. All major religions have committed barbarian acts, Christian laws surely did not permit the Inquisition, for instance, so if some Jews should turn out to have committed heinious acts over five hundred years ago, then so what, join the human race! Or is the author saying the Jews are always blameless, that there is no such thing as a mad or criminal Jew at any time in history? Surely, that is as irrational a statement as anti-Semitism itself.
49. Care for the saintly children
Tarik Hussein ,   Denmark   (02.23.07)
Whether or not his scholarly work is solid, Dr. Toaff is making Israel and Jews look like just another open-minded, freedom-loving, and truth-seeking part of the human race. His chorus of critics make Jews look oversensitive, insecure and deeply afraid of any conclusion, even in the obscure annals of medieval history, that does not fit their world view. Try to debunk his theories, and you sound like good scholars. But say he "fuels antisemitism", and you sound like you care more about some unrealistic image of Jews as eternal victims than about the killing of saintly children.
50. Anti Semite
L. Edward Phillips ,   San Diego USA   (02.23.07)
Abraham was called out of the UR of the Chaldea to become the Father of Jehovah's chosen people. Latter known as the children of Israel. The Jews were specifically seperated and invited by GOD himself to be his own nation. For this small elite group to survive over thousands of years to reclaim its title deed in the holy land is truly the miracle of the 20th century, and proof of an omnipotent Creator. All bigotry is evil, but hatred of GOD's particular favorite is like sticking your finger in his eye. Do so at you own risk. The Roman Empire,and Nazi Germany, are no longer here! Islam has fought numerous wars with Israel, and against incredible odds (10 to 1) Israel has returned victorious every time. Israel is supernaturally protected and is here to stay. This was written thousands of years ago, and is now unfolding in front of our eyes today.
51. #30- Mark from Beckridge, CO
Mark ,   Georgia, USA   (02.23.07)
Your ( and others ) central point - Are people being falsely accused of antisemitism in order to silence criticizism of Israel ? Each case must be evaluated independently. Generally speaking you can look at the writings or remarks ; 1) Do they try to delegitimize Israel. 2) Do they exagerate or distort facts about Israel with the intent to deceive or is it out of ignorance. 3) Do they hold Israel to a higher standard that other countries, put another way , do they ONLY reserve their criticizism for Israel while ignoring others who commit more heinous acts. Do people who are antisemtic hide their hate by falsely saying their thoughts are being censored by being called antisemetic ? Your two examples of the girl and Carter. 1) The girl, I have no information about and therefore cannot comment on, except to say if you are going use this sort of an example please provide the readers w/a link if possible, so we can see the story ourselves. 2) Carter has been cut to ribbons factually by nermerous crictics. The errors in his book are so numerous that it would take 15-20 pages to document. Now the critics of course are being accused of trying to silence Carter by guess what ? Can Carter be criticized ? Is Carter censurable or is everyone that does that "dismissed " as a Israeli agent. The best critique of the book is at www.JewishVirtualLibrary.org. I don't beleive your a 'bad' person, just somone trying to understand the complicated reasons for this debate. Have a great day!! Mark
52. Anti-semitism
chaim ,   United States   (02.24.07)
Without this disease there would be no Catholic church, no Arab League, no KKK, no OPEC, no Hitler(see Catholic) , no Islamofacism, no Stalinism, British Mandate and no Palestinian mythology about their past. If you do not know anything about history you have real problem with current events. Stop the blame game and do a little studying.
53. What does Plocker mean by "... our uniqueness"?
ChosenGoy ,   Anycity, Europe   (03.06.07)
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