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Israel can deal with Iran alone, Lieberman says
Amnon Meranda
Published: 28.02.07, 17:03
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31. Deanna #29
AR ,   USA   (03.01.07)
Im sorry im dividing america. NOT. Thank god we dont all think alike thats what the Nazi's did remember. You grew up pledging allegence to the flag that was responsible for some of the worst attrocities in human history so dont sit here and take the high ground. Me and mine (friends, family, fellow americans) have suffered because of the policies of this nation domestic and foreign you Deanna are a part of the small minority of americans who havent suffered at the hands of this nation so obviously you are biased. The reason i bash america is so that in the next couple decades when americans start to realize what they are really doing in the ME. When they start to see the hypocracy in American and Israeli policy. When you wake up. I can tell you "duhhh!!" Now seriously I never hide my feelings about bush or america but only critisism and action can change the status quo in the states. Maybe if people would look at what powers our economy, what is keeping it afloat against China in an era of "free trade" maybe they would see that wars are just how governments consolidate power and grow empire. America right know has troops in over 135 nations on the planet. If that isnt and empire then i dont know what is. Just saying.
32. SAAR USA.
AR ,   USA   (03.01.07)
sorry im not a muslim.
33. Reply to Redmike.
AR ,   USA   (03.01.07)
Mike look obviously Iran isnt gonna fight a ground war with Israel or America. They will fight an assymetrical war. The arrow and patriots wont matter if hundreds of missles are fired. They are no good against Zelzals which will most likely be fired from Lebonan and Syria. Israel will be fighting Iranians in Syria if war starts. Syria and Iran have a defence pact. You have to look at it from a more practicle perspective. Did you think Israel and America would just bomb Iran shoot down all incoming missles and just go on with life as usual. Plus dont forget a war with Iran would just justify in the eyes of hardliners to acquire and build nuclear weapons. America dosnt have the capacity for regime change right know. We might be able to destroy nuclear facilities and what not but Americas army wont be marching to Tehran. What i was trying to say is that Israel alone cannot take on Iran. The Israelis know this the Iranians know this and the Americans know this. Look im not underestimating Israels airforce but if America is nervous about confrontation with Iran why dose Israel a country surrounded by enemies waiting for her to become weak to attack think that she can take care of a country half the size of Europe with Ten times the population of her? Some one tell me how the war would unfold if you disagree with what i have said please. I think war would be the worst thing for all parties involved. But america and Israel will not achieve their goals. We will fail just like we did in Afghanistan, Iraq and Lebonan. Im not being a downer im just telling it how it is sorry if you have delusions that might differ. We will see. I wish you and yours the best tho i think israel is digging its own grave when it comes to Iran.
34. JANE......................................#4
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (03.01.07)
Different tactics is obvious as Israel does not share boundry with Iran.And I understannd that very well.Dont expect the Israelis to make use of their tanks.It would be the Air Force of course coupled with the missiles launching submarines.Nevertheless,do remember that the Iranians know that these submarines have to come all the way from Mediterranian Sea and the Airforce has to refuel on the journey.How practical the plans are are is what is to be seen,Jane.
35. Lieberman...lol
sam ,   swe   (03.01.07)
Lieberman is a joke
36. Mahmood
Jane   (03.01.07)
Time will tell, won't it?
37. #26
Jane   (03.01.07)
#13 seems to think so. Well, we can all imagine the agenda of #13, can't we?
38. Isreal can't do squat w/o U.S. help
PETE ,   windsor, ct.   (03.01.07)
they are pitiful without U.S. It is the U.S. that does not need Isreal's help. they are wortless. the worst investment in U.S. history. isreal u suck
39. JANE POSSESES THE 'TACTICS'
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (03.01.07)
It is nice of you to have agreed to wait for the time to come. Be assured,however, that Iranians have seen enough of conspiracies by the USA in the past to have just been docile and waited for renewed attempts by USA.Their intelligence unit is fairly powerful and intent on discerning any extraordinary movements by military,naval or Airforce of any country in the visinity. Nevertheless, you seem to be sure about the 'tactics' to be utilsed and therefore would request you not to disclose as one could pass the same to the Iranians,yah? :)
40. Mahmood
Jane   (03.01.07)
It's not that I know the "tactics". I simply am stating that what transpired with Hizbullah last summer will not be repeated.
41. # 9 Greg
Lacheman ,   Netherlands   (03.01.07)
Thanks man, I really needed a good laugh.
42. Going it alone
Doug@usa.com ,   USA   (03.02.07)
Does this mean you are going to stop blackmailing our politicians into giving you billions of dollars a year?
43. AR..what I know.....
DeAnna ,   USA   (03.02.07)
Is that you have family in Iran...you have said to me before you were wanting to take a vacation there in the summer. Of course you are going to be screaming dont attack Iran.....I wouldnt want something to happen to my loved ones either. Exactly why I feel so strongly about this subject. Make all the assumptions you want to...I come from a family that in all generations served in the military. My father was in Vietnam, my Grandpa in WW11 (whom i was pretty close to) and when he passed away.....i witnessed more flashbacks from war you could imagine.....I have a brother who served in the marines...a close cousin deployed right now.....and the list goes on.......dont talk to me about suffering from war. Or from the U>S government because proudly I can say my family has definatly suffered from war and by the hands of the US government VOLUNTARILY. PROUD. AND MUCH MORE INVOLVED than getting on a computer and Bitc4ing about it like yourself. Would you serve for the United states military? Would you fight for the freedom of speech you so frequently use? I dont think so....i think you would sit back on your computer and find every possible thing wrong with that same government your feeding off of......and bitc4. You find every reason to support your hate of bush and why dont you quit worrying about bush and help support the troops to win this war(all of them) the moronic war on terror. To ensure the freedom you have for the future.....if you want a bad government...move back to Iran and have a true reason to bitc4. And no I am not saying you should shut-up completly but the bush bashing is rediculous and everything is really not a conspiracy. One thing more.....I wish bush wouldve and wish he couldve announced at the beginning what he was really after becasue my friend he is after Iran......they want a piece of us and they are about to get it...thats life. Our problems on 9/11 were not as easy as 123 like you make it sound. AND YES saddam hussein was a terrorist. AND OBVIOUSLY there are some there now 2.....and really why cant we be honest...this is a religios war now...it has developed into that...unfortunatly. YOU know it and SO DO I. Start getting more angry at ahmadinejads regime and him for begging the united states or israel to attack becasue that uis exactly what they have for far too long been doing.
44. AR...btw
DeAnna ,   USA   (03.02.07)
those same crazy disgusting policies allowed you to move here when you were 4 years old remember. Away from a horrible country like Iran...you should be counting your blessings.
45. Deanna
AR ,   USA   (03.02.07)
Deanna you do make good points but when you say this is a religous war then i dont know how seriously i can take you. You act like terrorist attack america because we are a free nation. You act like America is the saint in the world that is always right and if someone dare disagree (with a passion) about it policies then that person is a traitor or whatever. Come on. Just tell me this are you happy with our country right now. Im talking about the war. The economey. The foreign policy. The domestic policies. The fact that as a nation we have more people in jail than china. The fact that we have 750,000 homeless people in the richest nation on the planet. The fact that we have the highest murder rate than any country. Schools get shut down and prisons and military bases are created in their place. Bush cuts taxes and then cuts the government aid to needy families. I will bush bash all i want "WORST PRESIDENT EVER" he deserves all the critisism he gets and more. Tell me have you looked at our nation and thought about the issues we face here at home or are you too pre occupied by the farce of the war on terror. Do you think that those in your family who fought in all those wars fought so Bush and Cheney can advance their and their supporters self interests. On the whole thing about going back to Iran. If America had never screwed up the democracy in Iran in the first place i wouldnt be here so you wouldnt have to listen to me. But history shows the dirty america that evolved after WW2. Americans for the most part are the greatest people on the planet. Most of us with the exception of most Ynet talkbackers are the most tolerant people on this planet. This nation didnt become so great because people blindley followed their leaders. We stood up for what we thought was right even when the government and media werent on our side. This nation can get itself out of the self destruction that is inevitable in the decades to come but only if we work together. Right know im educating myself so that i can make a difference here and what i write on my computer exposes me to other peoples and their view points. Obviously i dont want america to bomb iran. What would justify bombing Iran. Nothing. America's intelligence on Iran is crap and everyone knows this. Dont you think if the rest of the world truley believed Iran was building nukes that they wouldnt sanction Iran. Come on your choices for allies are Iran or America. Their is a reason the world dosnt want this stupid war to happen. The same reason the world didnt want the war in Iraq to happen. To answer your question if a nation was to attack america. Or invade america i will sign up. No matter how opposed to war I am sometimes you have to put your nation above your own conciounce and i will have to answer to god when my time comes for any crimes i might commit in the future against my fellow human beings. But wars of choice like Iraq and Iran. Please dont get it twisted. I wont exchange my humanity for patriotism. Not happening. Maybe i would be more willing to join the army if congress still had the power to declare wars rather than CIA and the President. One question how old are you just curious.
46. Im sorry to tell you this but this war cannot be won.
AR ,   USA   (03.02.07)
Please define winning? Last time i checked no one wins from war. We all lose children in war their is nothing honorable about war and those who make them.
47. Pete
Jane   (03.02.07)
Why thanks, Pete. By the way, get a brain.
48. JANE, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU....#40
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (03.02.07)
Repeatition of what transpired in Lebanon could spell disaster but you also must remember that the other side has been monitoring the strength and weaknesses as well.It would really be interesting to see how practical these tacticts are.
49. Then let's cut US funding to Israel, how 'bout that?
Dale ,   Chicago, USA   (03.03.07)
The majority of U.S. financial aid goes to Israel, BILLIONS every year. So if Israel thinks it can "go it alone", then fine, give us our g*d-damned money back. The Holocaust was one of many awful chapters in human history, but that doesn't give Zionist Jews an excuse to become Nazis themselves---which they have. 200-300 nukes, un-defined borders, racist laws, the brutality of unjust occupiers, the religious fanaticism of considering themselves "God's chosen people"??? No thanks. Please DO go it alone, Israel---you've dragged America down for too long now.
50. AR...only one thing in common
DeAnna ,   USA   (03.03.07)
we do need to work together. The problem is no one agrees. We cant work together if you dont think we should do anything about Iran..and I think we definatley shouldnt just stand by. I do have pride in my country..i wouldnt say I agree with everything in the government or its policies but I do know it is one of the best countries. It has one of the best economies on the planet and actually our homeless and poverty rate isnt as high as a whole lot of other countries. Quite frankly I dont know how you end up homeless in this country. The government passes out checks to people in poverty level and food and medical and housing.....so i get lost there. I guess you REALLY have to slip through the cracks I am not sure. I cant really understand all the negativity when out of the world we are pretty much jammin over here. Everyone has a chance at a good life...with a little bit of effort. I do not know why age matters but I dont care......I am 25.....how old ore you......and what state are you in? Just curious. No one ever wants war (unless you are ahmadinejad) regardless of what you think about our president. He didnt wake up one morning and say gee i guess i will create chaos. I think that is just being irrational and irresponsible to think that way. In a sense immature. I have told you before I dont agree with everything that has taken place since 9/11 but I can also tell you I am afraid we will get someone in office who is basically too soft or not experienced and really screw us. I know when you look at war in the aspect of innocent lives and suffering it is not cool...but that is life. Every country has done it to be where they are and it will never stop no matter how much we scream peace. Or as long as there are ahmadinejads in the world. UNFORTUNATLY. Other countries also do not agree with Iran.....you know this......and talk about a arms race. If they get it.....it is over. All kinds "whack jobs" will be signing up. I dont like nuclear weopons and I wish they never came to be but I do know that people like ahmadinejad should never hold that type of power and I feel the same way about fat boy slim over there in N korea...so dont just think I am after Iran. But I know you cannot expect people to willingly let you aquire such a thing when you rant about how much you hate israel and the west. Maybe he shouldve kept his mouth shut instead of making it look a little too obvious what his intentions are. Not just a game.....serious stuff. This guy is all about armaggeddon and everything else and he is open about it all. Why would anyone in their right mind hand them that type of power. Make it smooth sailing for them. I dont think so. THAT to me is MADNESS. I hope this thing gets resolved as much as you do.....but in the current conditions in Iran.......I think the nuclear plants should for sure GO.
51. Deanna
AR ,   USA   (03.03.07)
Im 19 and i live in CA. Look who cares what amadinejad says. He is a tool. NO POWER. HE DOSNT CONTROL ANY OF IRANS MISSLES OR ARMY. THE GUY HAS A DEGREE IN TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT FOR HEAVENS SAKE. HE HAS EVEN STATED THAT FORCE WILL NOT SOLVE THE ISRAELI PALESTINIAN CONFLICT. HE SAID THIS YESTERDAY. If you are gonna base your opinion of Iran on this loser who no one in Iran not even the mullahs like him. I understand why you are nervous about this situation. Any thing nuclear is a bad idea. I personally think Nuclear powerplants are stupid they are bad for the environment and their are alot of better options out their. With this said as a signatory of NPT i believe Iran has the right to Nuclear power and again as far as anyone knows that is what they are doing. Israel has been saying for decades that Iran is building nukes and they will be ready in 2 years. They obviously have their own concerns regarding Iran and believe me nothing would make them happier then to have america attack Iran. And if was as simple as bombing some nuclear facilities i wouldnt be Bitc4in about it all the time but this is not the case. War with Iran would not spark a regional war like many people say. It will most likely start WW3. China and Russia are not gonna just stand around and let it happen. Even some european contries will abandon America. We cant solve our problems in the middleeast by going to war with the 800 pound gorilla in the neighborhood. We need a president who is strong but also flexible. He has to know when to be tough and when to talk but this president seems to only want to use a hammer when most problems arent nails. I think it is because that is his only tool. He is unwilling to concede any legitamacy to the mullahs. He has no barganing chips to use in negotiations. And Iran knows that a war with America would allow them to signifacantly reduce americas military presence in the mideast. Just so you know half of the homeless in america. Probably more are VETERANS. Most of americas problems arent domestic they are foreign. All you have to do to see this is to wikipedia any developing nation and you will see americas fingerprints all over it. I know i sound like a downer but sometimes the truth hurts and im sorry if you disagree but this is the situation america finds itself in.
52. AR......missed my point
DeAnna ,   USA   (03.03.07)
What I was trying to get at is while these whackjobs are the leaders of Iran I do not think it is wise to allow them to have nuclear power. I really hope Irans people stand up against them and get em outta there. They are definatley not good for their country. I am sorry, but from what I see there are a few "leaders " over there that make me nervous. It is not just Ahmadinejad. About the ww3 thing....see I believe that has already started. China and Russia really are only on With Iran right now for different agendas more like $ and oil. If things start getting crazy I dont think china will be after the U.S. I dont know about Russia but I would assume not. Putin is a interesting guy though so I guess I wouldnt put it past him. My assumption is he is only after the $ he is receiving from Iran for weopons. If push came to shove I am not so sure they would all teeam up angainst the U.S and Israel. But, if this is really the gog n magog war then i guess so. BTW- what is up with your Israel statement "i dont care about israel" what does that mean exactly? You may be correct about some vets being homeless. Homeless is a tough issue for me. I feel like every issue should be looked at individually to actually know how many are really homeless and cant do a thing about it and not on some sort of drug or have some addiction. The majority I would think is just being lazy and dont mind the streets and getting their "fixes". It is bothersome but I thiink alot of them picked that life for themselves.
53. Good Freaking Luck
Trevor Brooks ,   Huron Park, ON   (03.04.07)
The United States Army War College did a study shortly after 9/11 and they themselves concluded that the US couldn't stop the Iranian nuclear program by themselves without re-instituting the Draft. So how on earth is Israel going to 'take care of Iran' by itself? Even attempting to would stretch them so thin as to render them unable to defend themselves from neighbours. The United States, Israel and the rest of the world have to accept that unless Iran pulls a Libya and voluntarily ceases it's nuclear program, there is nothing that can realistically be done to stop Tehran from acquiring Nuclear Weapons. Air Power alone isn't going to stop Iran's nuclear program and the only nations large enough to launch a ground campaign capable of stopping it wouldn't have the stomach for the fight.
54. Deanna
AR ,   USA   (03.04.07)
My Israel comment is because it is a fundamental belief of mine that Israel (as a jewish state) is not legit. For many reasons that i dont wish to get into right now but im sure if you read some of my future talkbacks you will see what i mean. I dont expect people to agree with me but it is my opinion. Dont confuse my views of the State of Israel with my views on Israeli people or jews. Israelis are doing and fighting for what they believe to be the right thing and to many jews and some christians they are in the right. I have a fundamentally different view of Israels history than those who support it. I disagree with your assumption that the homeless are lazy and are addicts which is why they are homeless. Some are lazy. Some dont have job skills. Some live in Californa and see how expensive it is to rent or buy a home and get discouraged. And some have issues relating to drugs. There are a lot of circumstances surrounding their position. I have been homeless before. I am not a drug addict, im definently not lazy i just got put in a bad situation with my family and at the time i wasnt working so i couldnt afford a place for myself. I slept on the street ive lived in homeless shelters. But i was lucky i was given a second chance bye those close to me. They helped me out. Not everyone is so lucky. Homelessness in america is to me the saddest thing. I dont expect most people to understand their issues and im not some sort of expert of homeless people but from what ive seen they are not lazy they are just hopeless. On Iran the united states has no right to tell Iran they cant build nuclear power. Sorry if that dosnt sit well with you thats how it is. I agree with your $ and oil talk about russia and china but those are our motives and they havent stopped us from warring with nations of the middleast directly and indirectly for decades. Whatever our problems are we arent gonna fix them with war. Hopefully more people like you and me can talk out our problems with each other rather than attacking one another.
55. to #8
Jeff ,   US   (03.05.07)
Wake up from your slumber the whole world knows that the israel lost the battle againt the Hezbollah so stop pretending no one is buying we live in information society and news spreads faster than fire. MORON
56. #14 Good luck because you're going to need it
Jeff   (03.05.07)
And a lot of it.
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