that these strange people with their strange habits, clothes and mannerisms actually participate in normal physical functions and actions, as "God" intended them to. But then again their outrage is just another manifestation of their strange and abnormal attitude to, and concept of, life.

Normal sexual functions are "evil". The perpetrators must be "exterminated". Great solution. Let's "exterminate" humanity and then we shall have no need for"God"

I'm sorry but I see nowhere in Moses' words which he brought from G-d about separating from Israel those who have sex. It does say that you should not be lude, however they must determine that the intent of taking the photos was to release them in public. Even if they intended this (both of them not just one), banishment is unjust. Is there no wisdom? True it says "you shall remove evil from your midst" but one act does not make a person evil. They should be repremanded but not exiled. If they want to continue this behavior then they should live amoung people who will accept this - most secular think it sleezy.

Next set of photos will be someone dressed like the President of Israel and female govement worker going at it.

DAVID JERUSALEM #16 WAS DEFENDING TORAH AND THE HASIDS, HE GAVE THE POSITIVE TO A NEGATIVE. *YOU* INSULTED AND BROUGHT NEGATIVE , I THINK THAT *YOU SHOULD NOT ONLY LOOK IN THE MIRROR BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU SAYING COMING FROM YOUR END OF LIFE, BUT YOU JUDGED HIS MORAL STANDARDS ..... BECAUSE HE DEFENDED TORAH....AND THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY? YOU FELL DOWN, NOT DAVID. DAVID #16 ACTED LIKE PINHAS IN TORAH.DAVID DEFENDED TORAH. I AM NOT GOING TO JUDGE YOUR MORAL STANDARDS I WILL JUDGE YOU LEVEL OF FAIR AND EQUAL PLAY . THEN YOU CLOSE WITH A GREETING TO ''GOOD JEWS? SO NOW YOU ACT LIKE THE 'ONE GD OF ISRAEL' BY JUDGING WHO IS GOOD, BY A POSTING THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH NOR UNDERSTAND OR ACCEPT BECAUSE IT DEFENDS HASIDS AND TORAH....? YA KNOW CHARLIE, I WILL JUDGE YOU....AND I WILL PRAY THAT YOU HAVE YOUR AWAKENING TO THE WRONGS YOU SAY AND THE RIGHTS YOU MISSED. HAPPY HOLIDAY TO *ALL JEWS* AND PRAY THE LOST JEWS FIND HASHEM AGAIN AND NOT false gods. even they can comeback to the MT OF HASHEM AND ASK FORGIVENESS AT ANYTIME AND ANY MINUTE. THANK YOU DACON9

I do not need your prayers . I know i'm a "mensch" , not insulting nobody . Only saying my standard of morality are higher than his who's insulting people . And because i do not sin , no need to ask for forgivevenss . You can say that by saying this , i'm sinning . Maybe for a religious one , not for a secular with high standards of morality , who don't needs to go to the bet knesseth , even not yom kippour . PS You are probably not Israeli , since your tb appeared after the beginning of Shabbat , so stay in your galut country , we have enough people here who try to give lessons to what i call , GOOD Jews

TO SAY ' I AM SINNING THEN CONTINUE IS A BIGGER PROBLEM TO SAY I REPENT WITHOUT LEARNING WHAT THE LAWS ARE RELATING TO THAT SIN IS NOT REPENTING. NOW I ASK YOU DID MOSES COME DOWN WITH 3 SETS OF LAWS? 1 FOR REFORM, 1 FOR SONSERV AND ONE FOR TORAH JEWS? YOU ARE A MENCH? YOU ARE INSULTING AND CLOSING THE DOORS TO A SEGMENT OF JEWISH POPULATION THAT NO RIGHTOUS ''MENCH'' WOULD DO. YOU INSULTED BY YOUR ACCUSATION OF THE SUBJECTS IN THE PICTURE ASSUMING THE ARUTCLE IS CORRECT AND THE PEOPLE ARE HAREDI. HE EQUALIZED YOUR ACCUSATION BY SAYING''HOW DO YOU KNOW'' EVERY JEW NEEDS EVERY OTHER JEWS PRAYERS. EVERY JEW SINS,,ONLY 5 PEOPLE NEVER SINNED IN JUDAISM] FOR YOU TO SAY YOU DONT SIN IS COMPLETE ARROGANCE IN FRONT OF YOUR JUDGES IN HEAVEN. YOU IN ISRAEL HAVE ENOUGH? YOU ARE CERTAINLY ENOUGH TO SLOW DOWN MASHIACH AND WE HAVE TO SUFFER BECAUSE OF YOUR ARROGANCE. JEWS HAVE BEEN DISPEARSED BY HASHEM FOR MANY REASONS.. I AM IN NEW YORK..SHABBAT DIDNT START YOU ARE IN ISRAEL , SHABBAT STARTED 5 HOURS AGO... AND NOW WHAT? GIVING CHARITY FROM STOLEN MONEY IS NOT A GOOD DEED(MITZVAH) LIVING IN ISRAEL WITHOUT OBSERVANCE IS NOT A MITZVAH... I THINK THAT YOU ARE ANGRY FOR NOT OBSERVING.. YOU CAN COME BACK THE ONE 'GD' IS WAITING FOR YOU no i do not wear black clothes i am sephardi living in brooklyn i observe as best as i can, and i try to improve slowly little by little.. just to satisfy your curiousity. i believe you should learn some POSITVE mussar. AND HUMILITY . I REPEAT, DAVID ( JERUSALEM #16 ) DID WHAT PINHAS DID ( in a sort of way) LEARN THAT STORY THIS WEEK. THANK YOU, RESPECTFULLY DACON9

Listen , i'm not believing at all . I can not believe after what happened during the Shoa . So for me religion means NOTHING . I respect TRUE religious people , and in my eyes i'm not sinning at all . I don't need the ten commandements for not killing , stealing and so on . I have HUMANISTIC values with a great dose of tolerance towards tolerant people , respect for respecting people , acceptation of the right to have other ideas [ conform to humanity , not racists and so ] if they accept my ideas of living . You have not to write in capital letters , your writing is not so important in my eyes . I certainly not need help from a Galut man , nor his advice . I made Alya because i wanted to live in my HISTORICAL home , history , not religion . And i'm PROUD to be part of this people who contributed so much to humanity in the last centuries . This contribution was made mostly by secular Jews , not religious .

It's noon here in Israel , shabbat . A nice day outside , the sun is shining . As i'm not believing , and happy about this , i do not believe in your "judges in heaven" . I did not make Alya to make a "Mitzwa" , i'm not acting to have a big account of Mitzwoth . I'm acting by HUMANISTIC rules . Do you need religion to behave correctly ? I suppose not , i don't need it neither . If you are happy by being religious and believing , i'm happy for you . You choose , or your parents did show you , this life . Very fine for you . I choose another way and am not angry at all fot this choice , and don't try to convince me that i'm wrong . This is something i dislike very much , and shows a certain intolerance from those trying to do it . Don't tell me to read and learn this or that , i'm not your child , and know what to read . So have a fine nice Shabbat , a Shavoua tov

What did david [16] do ? only insulting people . Are this your standards ? they are not mine .

where can i see these pics.?

and there will be more of this. It's part of the anti-Israel war: to discredit the Jews. Today they are showing religious Jews having sex, next they'll show them engaged in perversions. All they need is a few actors and props or simply photoshop to produce any kind of picture they want. And the media and the Israel haters will love it.

"Isn't this the ultra-religious sect that normally views sex as a necessarry evil, to be used for procreation purposes only" Absolutely not. "Isn't "hole in the sheet" type of intercourse the accepted norm with these inbred fanatics? " Again, no. In fact, this is completely forbidden by Jewish law. Perhaps, one should LEARN about Judaism, before making fun of those who practice it.

Whats the big deal? there only human.

for such shmutz but rather for civilized upstanding "menschen", you, who consider youself "a mensch" (#36), should always give people the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, you hate the haredim so that if someone makes up such a story you "buy it" with open arms and you relish in such foolishness and shmutz. As Kyle said in #28. "Has anyone actually recognized them? As far as anyone knows they are just performers wearing costumes." Since no one in the Haredi community has recognized them and there's no outcry from the Haredi Rabbis, we can EASILY assume that this is nothing but some idiots dressed in Haredi cloths. So "before insulting someone", Charles, and before accepting "lashon harah", Charles, on an entire community, think twice!

Purim Samayach everyone! Just to let you know - holes in sheets are a "no no"; and the pics must be a hoax coz - wait for it - Chareidim do it - NAKED!!! Yup - it's not a sin - as seen in christianity but the closest relationship that a couple can have - totally G-dly!

What in the world are hassidic shoes?

I agree with you , as long as they are not recognised by the haridi community , there can be a doubt . Two questions : 1] if they will be recognised , will it be made public , that they are members of a haridi community ? and what will happen to them ? 2] Why did'nt we hear a representative of the haridi community , denying that this brought trouble . Because if they are not , very possible , why is there an outcry ? Hag Pourim Sameach

The general policy by the Haredim is acting modestly and to keep away as much as possible from shmutz (filth); not to read about shmutz, not to look at shmutz and not to think about shmutz. The fact is, that one who fools around in mud, gets soiled… When the secular people placed immoral pictures on the buses and bus-stops and other areas in order to contaminate and to defile pure Jewish souls, the Haredim felt that just as people understand that there is an obligation to protect the country from human enemies, we have to protect the Jewish souls from their spiritual enemies and therefore they were ready to be imprisoned and pay penalties in order to stop it. For the sake of argument, let's say it was a Haredi, if something happens like immorality, murder, espionage, drugs, or anything non-acceptable by society in the non-religious world, would you, Charles, or YNet or any "representative" of the secular world deny it or defend it? Surely not. Simply, because this is an exception. This person is still human and got influenced from the street and did it on his own initiative. There's nothing to defend and nothing to deny. Haredim, as well, are not immune from the yetzer hara, from the internet, from the street, etc. From the fact that you expect the haredim to deny it or explain it, proves that this is an exception in the Haredi circles and there’s no right to ba'shmutz the entire Haredi community. There's a famous parable from the Baal Shem Tov. A lion once advised his cubs that they are the mightiest and strongest and should have no fear from anyone. After roaming the city for a while, the cubs came back to their father charging him that he deceived them. They saw a huge monument of Samson Hagibor (the Mighty) tearing apart a lion. This proves that human beings are stronger than lions. "No," the father lion said. "Just the opposite. This supports my claim. If it's the norm that humans are stronger than lions, they wouldn't erect a monument. Since, in general, lions are stronger and it happened once in a rare occasion that Samson did overpower the lion, therefore, the made a big issue and erected a monument."

Ha Torah beal peh.

bunch of lies. why don't you write something that can actually inspire and help people?

What you say is immoral , is not immoral for the majority of the people in the developped world . We are living in the 21th century in a developped country . You obviously still in the 18 th century in a undevelopped one . The norms of Immorality have changed since then . Regarding those "pictures" of a "so called" haridi couple . It's only to say that it can occur also in this community . They have the same problems the seculars have , they are humans . The difference is that when there is a problem , this is occulted . Women mostly don't dare , for example , to complain about their husbands behaviour . Everything stay's inside the haridi community . In Yddish : Es past zich nischt . Don't talk about it . This was , if true , an exeption , because it was made public , not occulted . Chag Pourim Sameach .

why did YNet bring it up in the first place and why are you making such a big fuss about it??? It's like a Sabra eating pita and falafel -whether he's a Hareidi or secular - would YNet publicize it? Apparently, zeht auss, immorality is NOT the norm and certainly not by Haredim and it shouldn't be by you nor any other moral upstanding decent Jew. Has the world gone so low that there is no such thing as moral values? What a shame. Baruch Hashem the Haredim still have these values and we're proud of it and you should too. Chag Purim Sameach.

You have to ask Ynet why they brought it . The fuss about it ? look at # 1 hadar . I only reacted on this tb , and was immediately called idiot . So ask your friends why they reacted in this way . I know , that even as you claim , the charidim have moral standards , they have the same moral problems as the seculars , but as i wrote , they are more occulted . As you are Yeroushalmi , you have a second Pourim , so , OD PA'AM : Chag POURIM SAMEACH .

Maybe, just maybe, if you only had some outside enemies, y'all would get along with each other :-)

Look at your # 16 : What did you write : people like you leftist idiots , and this was adressed to me . Are those insults your "high charidi" moral standards ? I suppose and hope not , but maybe your personnal ones ?

I think saddest part about this story is that the talkbacks illustrate how truly ignorant many Jews are about members of their own faith. Maybe if secular Jews showed an interest in Jewish law, they would realize that many of their preconceived notions (about Torah Judaism)are false.

from speaking to my Vharedi friends in Jerusalem, word on the street in meah shiorim and geuloh, is that the pictures are real. what better proof would you like?