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Bishops equate Israel's actions to Holocaust
Eldad Beck
Published: 06.03.07, 10:24
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31. to #17 and #25
Lucid   (03.06.07)
Don't jump to conclusions. Who said I am at home now? I am segregated behind a 23ft wall in the OPT. Checkpoints at coffee shops my arse!They are nothing compared to checkpoints(which by now I suppose you've twigged that I have to face along with the oppressed).What you mention are metal detectors, and yes I've experienced them too. Never in my life have I had such obnoxious people violating my right to liberty. It is your own 'security' system that oppresses you, not "the Arabs". Palestine has a right to exist, as does Israel, it us just a shame that your police-state has brainwashed you to the point of having so many false fears that you are blinded to the truth.
32. The article is too sensitive...
withheld ,   Copenhagen, Denmark   (03.06.07)
While I find the Bishop's remarks insensitive and false, there are no concrete or direct comparison between Israel and the Nazis, in the sentense quoted. I think it is important, if you want people to take you seriously, to stick to the words spoken, rather than to speculate and add further symbolic value to concrete sentenses.
33. #19
Judy Y ,   Los Angeles   (03.06.07)
Could you explain, exactly, how would the withdrawal to pre-1967 borders solve the security situation in Israel and the viability of Palestinians on the other side? Also, what is your evidence that there is a Nazi-type of mindset in Israel. And what would be your evidence that there's no such mindset on the part of the Palestinians?
34. German Bishops in Israel.
Dr.Joji Cherian ,   Aluva India.   (03.06.07)
I have gone through almost all the responses.And all of them make out as if thebishops were lying. As if they have committed a sacrilage in telling the the truth and sympathising with the Palestenion victims
35. Who still ??
(03.06.07)
How many still in this world likes you ?? can be counted on one hand .... and still you accuse everybody with this boring thigs you say all the time ... and you .... poor and inocent ....lol ... monsters with baby faces .... killers with guns in one hand and white flag in the other .... don't you have mirrors to look at your selfs .... but it's written ... you collect your self and you will separet your self again .... no way .
36. GUTSPAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (03.06.07)
So much for a dialogue with R.K church. Well at least they have not changed. Why allow these highly spiritual beings with their very clean history towards the jews, allow to come here? The only nazis are to be found in germany and in the church itself. A good suggestion for these @#$%@@ is to drive from frankfurt to munich seeing names like bergen belsen and dachau,it might refresh their very limited memory.
37. A classic eg. of" The Pot calling the Kettle black"
john ,   nz   (03.06.07)
38. Israel should demand an apology
Tracy W   (03.06.07)
Let's see where do Germans, especially German Catholics stand regarding these statements. This story is bigger than it seems.
39. Same old germans, same old catholics
Jon ,   UK   (03.06.07)
It has become increasingly fashionable to call Israel nazis simply because they're trying to protect themselves. The reality is that whatever Israel does, she will be wrong. I have come to the conclusion that there is little point in getting excited about it. As for these sad bishops, what can they teach us? Nothing, and certainly nothing about humanity or theology for that matter.
40. litmus test for anti-Semetism
Jesse ,   Jerusalem   (03.06.07)
Bishops never said Israel was committing a second Holocaust. The simply likened what they saw here with elements from what they know from their own history. Same thing happens when South Africans come here: they point out similarities between elements of Apartheid and Israeli policy in the Occupied Territories. According to a recent global poll, Israel ranked last (behind Iran) of countries viewed negatively. Does the whole world hate Jews? Israelis can continue to wallow in self-pity, lashing out at any informed criticism, wildly accusing everyone from Jimmy Carter to Desmond Tutu of being anti-Semitic. Most I believe will. A few, however, might begin to look more critically at what has been happening in the Territories for the last 40 years. Anyone who compares a guard at an Israeli mall/restaurant with an IDF checkpoint in the *middle* of the West Bank speaks out of ignorance. Anyone who says that you can't see the Wall (the concrete "fence") that divides Palestinian neighborhoods from their hospitals, schools and jobs in East Jerusalem obviously hasn't been to that part of town. Build the barrier between Israel & the West Bank, pull the troops/settlers out of the Territories (put them at checkpoints *into* Israel, not at the entrance to Palestinan villages and have them bomb any Palestinan terror threat), and I think you will find Israel's global poll numbers wil pass Iran's. I would also guess that any likening of Israeli policies to those of Nazi Germany or Apartheid South Africa will cease. And if they don't, then at least we will now that they are in fact motivated by anti-Semitism.
41. to #12 You are a pinhead!
jason white ,   afula,israel   (03.06.07)
They try to bring through explosives and weapons at the roadblocks.Treat them like animals.No animals do not wantonly kill! The wall has saved many lives.It is also our land so we can build whatever we want on OUR land. The krauts should never talk like this and if we had a prime minister with guts,he would ban them from returning to Israel.Even if he has to give the security officers permission to shoot them.
42. close down churches
Dori ,   London, UK   (03.06.07)
I say Israel should close down every xtian so called 'holy' site in Israel until they apologise. Stupid idol worshipping fools! Who the hell are to compare Israel defending themselves(too mildly in my opinion) to the nazis killing millions of innocent people?
43. A response to "yesh li , savta polaniya"
Kate ,   London, UK   (03.06.07)
Did your grandmother also tell you how a virulently anti-Semitic Poland overwhelmingly and joyfully collaborated with the Nazis to murder millions of Jews? Did she tell you about how Poles used to lead the Nazis directly to the Jews and how they used to cheer when Jews were being taken and murdered in front of their eyes? Did she tell you about the thousands of Jews murdered by Poles during the Holocaust? Did she tell you about the thousands of Jews murdered by Poles after the Holocaust? Your point about property is absurd. Poland refuses to hand back the hundreds of billions of dollars of property she stole from the Jews she helped murder. Ditto the property Poland stole from the millions of Germans she ethnically cleansed. And what about the vast amount of property seized from the 750,000 Jews who were ethnically cleansed by the Arab nations?
44. Does the whole hate Jews asks Jesse?
Kate ,   London, UK   (03.06.07)
Yes, the whole world more or less does hate Jews. You only have to look at World War II when virtually the entire world including the UK and the US effectively collaborated in the genocide of the Jews of Europe to see that. That you blame everything on Israelis and nothing on Palestinians, and that you ask everything from Israelis and nothing from Palestinians, betrays your own deeply-held prejudices beyond any shadow of a doubt. Any comparison between Israel and Nazi German or Apartheid South Africa is just another example of the new anti-Semitism that is sweeping the planet. The real comparison should be between the Nazis and the kind of people who make such anti-Semitic remarks.
45. You speak for Israel?
Lucid   (03.06.07)
Oh dear. Is this the most intelligent response I'm going to get from an average Israeli?You worry about Palestinians having explosives and weapons when the most immoral army in the world is also the fourth most powerful in terms of possesing weapons and explosives?Why do you think an armed militia is facing resistance from another armed militia?I don't suppose you've taken notice of any of the reorts which show that checkpoints are mainly used to abuse civilians that the troops know full well are innocent, e.g: children, the elderly, people in ambulances in need of medical treatment. The West Bank is whose land?Israel is occupying it, and does not have the right to construct anything. THE WALL AND SETTLEMENTS ARE ILLEGAL UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW. I suggest you check that one out. Perhaps you could have a look at the Geneva Conventions, and some pre 1948 maps while you're at it.
46. To #31
Jasmin ,   Haifa   (03.06.07)
Yeah, right. It was really the israeli security services that blew up those buses and packed their explosive belts with nails to create maximum suffering. I suppose it was also an Israeli security woman in disguise who detonated her explosive belt next to a family table at maxim's in Haifa! Are you truly that moronic? Metal detectors are *hardly* the same as extermination camps, you know.
47. Of course you people are upset
Noah ,   New York, NY   (03.06.07)
48. The wall is redundant and horrific?
Renee ,   Somers, NY USA   (03.06.07)
Hello!! It's a wall!! Have you ever seen the results of a suicide bomber? Now THAT'S what I'd call horrific!!
49. A Goy bleibt ein Goy!
shasis ,   Berlin   (03.06.07)
50. To #7
Jasmin ,   Haifa   (03.06.07)
I imagine they're enjoying the feeling of absolving themselves of any residual guilt feelings from the Holocaust. They, who truly have no shame, are also enjoying feeling holier than thou as well.
51. Finally
(03.06.07)
Someone has the guts to say it out loud
52. #50 freeing from blackmail,
(03.06.07)
Not"absolving themselves of residual guilt feeling"
53. DO NOT LET THEM COME THROUGH ISRAEL !!!
ME ,   UK   (03.06.07)
LET THEM GO HOME WHATEVER OTHER WAY ""NOT TROUGH THE ISRAELI LAND ""
54. THEY'RE MAD CUZ WE FOUND THE JESUS FAMILY AND THE JUDAS GOSP
Andrew ,   miami,fl   (03.06.07)
55. # 45 ,Are you having a Lucid dream?
john ,   nz   (03.06.07)
56. SPANISH INQUISITION KILLION 120 MILLION>> PIZZARO DIARIES
.............DAIRIES   (03.06.07)
57. TO THIS DAY, SPIRITUAL DEATH THROUGH CONVERSIONS
..............DACON9   (03.06.07)
58. ABBS GET 1OOs MIILLION$$,, NOT ENOUGH??
..............DACON9   (03.06.07)
59. Ahmadinejad tells Hamas to continue attacks
arabs make their own ,   poverty.......DACON9   (03.06.07)
60. Lucid! your stupidty does not warrant a response .
Mike ,   Canada   (03.06.07)
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