1. I remember Egyptians killing Pilot in Zagazig or somewhere
thereabouts in Nile Delta Area .He landed by Parachute and was murdered. Am I right about this event somebody
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2. Took them on a sight seeing tour?
Does anybody here believe that?! I'm sure they went to Euro Disney too!
If there ARE any POW's that went on this trip, and read this article. I sure wish they'd log in and share their story.
Some how I doubt that this Egyptian is any different than any another Arab I've known. I've seen way too many of these people being nothing short of bald faced liars to believe anything anyone of them says.
| Joe , |
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3. EGYPTIAN State-controlled paper PRAISED TEL AVIV BOMBING
of Jewish innocents.
Israel gave Egypt the Sinai in exchange for
a worthless piece of paper - a peace agreement.
The bloody "peace" that Egypt gives Israel:
YNETNEWS (04.18.06, 07:51)
Tel Aviv attack. 'There will be more'
Egyptian paper praises Tel Aviv bombing
State-controlled Al Gomhuria calls Monday's suicide
bombing 'sacrificial, martyrdom attack,' warns more
attacks to
follow
Associated Press
An Egyptian
state-controlled newspaper praised
Monday's suicide attack in Tel Aviv, which killed nine
people and wounded dozens, calling it an act of
sacrifice and martyrdom.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3241041,00.html
The deployment of Egypt's military on Israel's border
at the invitation of Israeli leaders is
astonishing
and
treasonous.
M.K. Steinitz stated: Egyptian military "has been
training for war against Israel for the past 10
years."
In 2004, U.S. Congressman Tom Lantos in the House
International Relations Committee,
warned Egypt was building up its military in
preparation for a future war with Israel.
Egypt receives $1.7 billion dollars
in U.S. aid annually.
STOP Inciting Children to Kill !
http://www.teachkidspeace.com/flash.php
Palestinian Authority
society are taught murdering Jews is the highest goal in life and attains paradise:
http://www.pmw.org.il/AFD.html
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse
| Linda Rivera , |
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4. Egyptian ATROCITIES Against SUDANESE REFUGEES
Egyptian Atrocities Against Sudanese Refugees Worsen
Feburary 18, 2006
Damanga Coalition for Freedom and Democracy has learned that the Egyptian government has underreported the number of Sudanese refugees killed by Egyptian authorities, and that Egypt continues to perpetrate human rights abuses against Sudanese civilians. Damanga calls upon the United Nations office in Cairo, as well as the greater international community, to intervene on behalf of the embattled refugees.
The atrocities committed in Egypt against Sudanese refugees have proved much greater than previously understood. Though Egypt has reported killing 27 Sudanese civilians in December, Damanga has received information from various refugee sources claiming that Egyptian authorities actually have killed more than 100 refugees. Several of these additional killings took place inside Egyptian detention facilities, with some victims of the December attacks succumbing to their wounds and dying in hospitals.
Moreover, Damanga has learned that Egyptian authorities tortured detained Sudanese refugees, and several refugees are still unaccounted for.
Egyptian authorities arrested or detained a number of surviving refugees, holding them in army and police camps near Cairo. Most have since been released, though dozens remain missing. Damanga's sources report that when releasing refugees, the Egyptian government has released them one by one, breaking apart families and individually transporting refugees to locations far away from their homes, leaving them without the means to return home or contact their relatives.
Moreover, these refugees are often without their United Nations identification documents and passports, having lost their belongings in December when the government initially attacked them. Egyptian authorities routinely confiscated identification papers, cellular telephones, watches, and cameras after beating the captive refugees. The Egyptian government has not returned these items, nor have they permitted the refugees to legally request return of their vital documents and other stolen property.
Egyptian security services have warned leaders of refugee demonstrations to refrain from mentioning the Egyptian government and its human rights violations on penalty of severe punishment. These threatened refugees are living in fear and require protection, as do all Sudanese refugees...
http://www.damanga.org/egypt_atrocities.html
| Linda Rivera , |
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5. of course they did ?
they also got free tickets for a cruise on miami shores plus $ TO SHOP IN BAL HARBOUR MALL i cant believe wht they come up with
| haim , |
mtl canada |
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6. #s 2 & 5:
Whether it's true or not, one thing is sure: the Egyptians did NOT murder a few hundred Israeli POWs in cold blodd as we are alleged to have done to captured Egyptian soldiers.
If the accusation is true, then we need to issue a grovelling apology to (a) the families of those we murdered, (b) the government of Egypt, and (c) the people of Egypt. We must also compensate the families of the murdered POWs.
| Michael Steiner |
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7. Sightseeing? Maybe being paraded in chains... .
And regarding Haidar al-Baghdadi's idiotic statement, obviously he has no clue how a free media works, since Egypt doesn't have one.
This is just stupid.
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8. Sure, and they didn't start the war either.
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9. Gauleiter Steiner and the "we"
I am still waiting to see where Gauleiter Steiner gets the "we" he is always referring to. He is surely not an Israeli, definitelynot-Pro-Israeli, and I sincerely doubt he is Jewish. So where is his proverbial "we" coming from?
| Reality Check , |
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10. hog wash
i was there in 1967, friends of mine came back from the egyptian prisons mutilated, no fingers, no toes, no nails, half of them brain damaged because of torture and even sodomy by egyptian prison guards.....and the rest, unfortunately came in pieces in body bags.
the chutzpah of the egyptian government to demand all that it demands. the nerve...when they know only too well that hteir moto in 1067 war by gamaal nasser was to DRIVE THE JEWS INTO THE SEA AND MURDER AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.... and thei speech was announced on the egyptian radio. i remember hearing it. scary!!!
common egypt, don't be a sore looser. we won the 1967 war despite all your predictions for a jewish holocaust in the land of israel prior to 1967. you attacked and we responded.
how very many israeli idf and pilots you killed in your pow camps. humane treatment? you are known for your torture and death tactics. this is why america shamefully sends all the iraqi prisoners to YOUR country to get the truth out of them. these tortures are not done in israel, but in your prisons. and if i recall correctly, there was never any visit by the red cross of our prisoners in 1967. we demanded, but you refused because you knew the carnage they would witness in your pow camps.
yes, we got some of our pow's back, but they were half dead already. you got great goods and returned spoiled good. so stop lying about "tours to cairo" to which you took the israeli pow's. never happened because none of the pow's coming back EVER mentioned such "kind and humane treatment" by your government. the only place you treated them to was your gulags and dungeons where torture machines were on a 24/7 operation. stop lying. we know how you operate and how you use and abuse the media for your own knave purposes.
trips to cairo....what a joke and a blatant non truth!
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12. #2
no, no such trips ever took place. my boyfriend then, an idf soldiers, was captured and imprisoned in egypt. i do not need to tell you that the only trip he took was to a very intense torture chamber. no such trips took place, no contact with the media or red cross, and the treatment was alla sing sing and russian goulags as well as the torturous prisons you saw in the movie midnight express. there were also sodomy and rapes done as to humiliate the our soldiers.
most returned home with no limbs or finger nails. my boyfriend returned without both eyes. they were gouched. pity he couldn't see all of "the wonderful trip and attractions in cairo". oh, how i wish they really took that proposed egyptian trip!!!!! he would have come home cnot blind.
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13. To 6 and everyone, I must say that this claim is nothing new
And still completely false,
This claim is something that pretty much been used by the Egyptians to cover up the massive defeat in 67' which in many ways the trauma stays no matter what.
Also don't forget the context that Mubarak was a general in this war, and saw the first wave of the IAF attack. This is important context which way to many people forget.
The fact is that this story has been talked to death, and is just being re-brought up because
1. Egyptian internal issues need to be avoided, so blame Israel
2. It seems Egypt is just itching to get out of the peace treaty and trying to find some way to get out of it, while blaming it on Israel, yet still not be considered aggressive for doing so.
3. Finally this is just rehash and attempt to blot out the success of that war.
Go read Six Days of War by Michael B. Oren, it covers this very well, and was written long before this film.
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14. Egyptian atrocities
A few years ago, I was priviledged to see unedited testimony of a survivor of the Bar lev line forts who was captured by the Egyptians. They asked all the captives if they fought in the 6 Day war. All who admitted this were summarily shot. The testimony was later edited out by the producers, perhaps to achieve "balance". Know that it is in Mubarak's interests to perpetually stoke antisemitic hatred to keep the heat off himself- unfortunately, the pot may overboil and he may get scalded.
| Dave , |
Toronto |
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15. If Anyone Went Sightseeing .....
Please come forward & let us know how your excursion went.
| Terry , |
Eilat, Israel |
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16. #3 thank you for keeping reminding us that
an Egyptian paper, allegedly contoled by the govenment, has the freedom of speech. Even when it has a budget share from the goverment, the paper can have a stance Diffrent from the government. Do Israeli media have this freedom?
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17. STEINER'S EXPERTISE
Michael you talk as if you were there. As a kid living in the diaspora I remember my parents pain with every Israeli casulty report on the news. It was well documented how our soldiers were abused and mutilated as POW's.If you were there please name one of the Egyptian POW's murdered.If you were not there then shut-up and stop acting as if you are an expert. You insult the courage alot of Israelies showed so we can live in the land of our for-fathers. As one who has served in the IDF I often think that our biggest enemy is our "rachmanut" (mercy) Arab cruelty has no bounds.
| ISAAC RUBIN , |
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18. 9#, Herr Steiner is a German
| Judah , |
Golan Heights,ISRAEL |
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19. If there were even one person who could confirm this.
Surely YNET could have found at least one solidier to confirm this fairy tale. The site www.isracast.com has testimony that supports that the Steiner-like Egyptians executed 100's of Israeli POWs, and used flame throwers on Israeli troops.
Regardless of the claims surrounding the Shaked-force action (which was done under direct prders of Ariel Sharon and Yitzchak Rabin according to Uri Milstein) the Egyptians were not as "nice"as this Egyptian general is claiming.
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20. to 1
yes but he was killed by the people and he was not a POW and not the army who killed him after he became a POW.
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21. Sure you can not believe it
Because treating your enemies humanely is not part of your culture , you know only killing and suffering and then you call your self chosen people of God .... how come ..... you are hunting the old Nazi officers till now whenever they became very old and sick but still you want to suffer them to revenge from them .... you couldn't forgive them and leave them to God he can punish them when they are by him ... but because forgiving is not part of your mentality and not in your relegion like in Christianity (Love your enemies) so no wounder that you behave like this , but don't forget when the day comes no one can say i am Jewish or Moslem or Christian ... only what you did good or bad is what will be your passport to the Heaven or to Hell .
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22. Dear Steiner
Since when the Israelis apology when they do something wrong otherwise they have to stay the rest of their life only apologising for all what they did in the past . forget it my friend they are not normal human people like us , seams they are from another planet .
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23. To Steiner , # 21 and 22
You are all three in the same side : the true anti Israeli one . You always believe and defend every lie or false declaration . And you steiner , don't say "we" when you talk about Jews or Israelis . You are NOT belonging to the Jewish or Israeli people . You were maybe born Jewish , but today your whole behaviour is worser than this of our , not your , enemies .
| charles , |
petach tikva |
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24. to # 20 , 21 and 22
You are such a coward , not even dare to give your name and living place . Or maybe you are ashamed of your writing , in this case you are right , you can be ashamed .
My name and place are true , you can come to Petach Tikva and see by yourself .
| charles , |
petach tikva |
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25. to 24
You what , your little nosence words showed how paralised you are and you didn't find even what to say more than such Sh...... , if i know that my name and where i live will change anything i would write it ... you think this would make any diffrences ... ok ... i live in Zuerich ... sure you know where it is ... sorry where is this petach tikva , behind the moon ? .... lol
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26. to 23
Come on boy ... i don't want you to cry ... take it easy we are just talking ... dry your tears and try to forget it ....
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27. To this anonymous from Zurich
Yes i know where Zurich is .
When we "just talk" , i prefer to talk to reasonnable people , not necessarely needing to have my ideas , but also not full of lies to bring their arguments . OK ?
I'm not crying , some tb'ers only deserve pity .
| charles , |
petach tikva |
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28. to 27 , oh yehhh .... so sweet
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